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Cocoa's mom is worried about our future
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9 March 2011 - 8:59 pm
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I am struggling today. Cocoa is still a puppy and I just don't know if I am the right person for her.

I ordered a ruffwear harness and it came yesterday. We had a great walk last night and again tonight. I wanted to leave the harness on for the next few days because I am going out of town. I thought it would make it easy for my mom to leash her if need be. Well, she chewed through the straps and now it's broken.

She's a chewer (she's only about one year old). I try to keep an eye on her, but tonight she was in her crate and I was reading. She has rope toys, squeaky toys and a kong to help occupy her.

It's totally not the tripawdness that's the issue. It's the puppy in her. I'm still learning. I wasn't planning on a dog, let alone a puppy. She is so smart. In the best ways and the most puppy-ish.

I really felt like crying when I saw the harness. I feel frustrated and ill prepared. And now I am leaving town for five days. I'm worried about how she will be when I am gone. I hate to think she will need to be crated most of the time now that I feel she can't be left unsupervised.

When I get back I'm going to look into training for us. I was just trying to give her some time. It's not even been a month, but it's obviously time.

Thanks for letting me vent, I just didn't know where else to go.

Cocoa

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Just because you helped save Cocoa's life doesn't mean you have to share it with her forever. That's the Disney princess ending, but it doesn't have to be that way. You intervened in the most humane way possible and helped save her life. If she had been a human toddler and you had rescued her from the train tracks, no one would expect you to take her home. 

The best thing you can do for Cocoa is to decide what the best thing for you is. If you need to rehome her, then by all means do so! It is lovely and wonderful and amazing that you could be in the right place at the right time to get her started on the road to a decent life. No one expects any more.

I know how hard it can be to suddenly find yourself the lifelong provider for the life you saved. We did it with Dakota. We waffled on it for months. I don't regret it, but boy were we flaky. Eventually, we decided to keep him because of how much money we invested in his recovery after we saved him. I wanted to see my investment bear fruit. I wanted to see what he could become. But we talked often of taking him to the humane society once he was well enough to be adopted. Now, 8 years later, we still threaten him with it.

I don't know where you are, what kind of adoption services you have near you, etc., but I'm pretty sure that a call to the local newspaper or TV station with a request to profile Cocoa's horrific story would bring out potential families for Cocoa, if that's what you decide to do and if your adoption organizations are sketchy. Just don't feel guilty about it, either way. Human babies aren't for everyone, and neither are furry ones. You have my respect for pondering this instead of sucking it up and toughing it out---miserably.

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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You can totally vent here, and we, as wild boy Wyatt Ray's humans, can totally relate.

First of all, I like to think that dogs find their humans for a reason. Cocoa found you, and you both have an incredible journey ahead. It will be filled with adventures and mis-adventures that will make a great story... some day in the near future. But now, you're still in the "getting-to-know-ya" phase.

I know it's frustrating and emotionally draining to have a new puppy doing crazy things like this. I'm so sorry about the harness! Wyatt actually chewed his harness the first time we left it on him alone. Thankfully, he hasn't since. We were also able to repair the straps. Do you have a seamstress around that can fix it? The webbing is pretty easy to find and sew back on. 

My biggest suggestion is to start with my friend Sarah Wilson's training community, My Smart Puppy. She has saved us countless times from flipping out over Wyatt's insane behavior and just today put us back on track with awesome suggestions to deal with some aggression issues he's having. Please join her Discussion Forum. It's filled with professional trainers who can put you in a good frame of mind to get started with proper training. Her book, My Smart Puppy, is a lifesaver too.

This will pass and you will have a GREAT dog once you come back from your trip and can commit to regular training. Even 5 minutes, twice a day, makes a huge difference. We found that when we found the right trainer for Wyatt and spent all of last summer taking him to dog school twice a week, we both found the communication tools we needed to have a great relationship. Its not always roses but it is getting so much better and it's a zillion times better than even a year ago.

Hang in there, and feel free to PM me if you want to vent some more. Believe me, I can totally relate!

 

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9 March 2011 - 9:29 pm
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Gosh, I wrote a long post and it's not here!  Sorry, I don't think I can redo it. 

Bottomline,

Cocoa's mom - the reward will be worth it!  Hang in there!  Activities, mind and physical ones will help a lot!

Her Retired AvatarComet - 1999 to 2011

She departed us unexpectedly  January 23, 2011 at the age of 12 1/2.

She was born with a deformed front leg and a tripawd all of her life.

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Trouble was an into everything puppy.  She destroyed my inside window shutters in the entrance way, she found a loose piece of drywall tape on the wall and ripped it about 5 ft up, she chewed every corner off every blanket and sheet we owned.

And then one day, at about 15 months she became a model dog.  She stopped destroying things, she became reliable, she never had to be crated when we left ever again, you could put you plate of food in front of her and she won't take it (she will lick it, but not take it).

Like Rene, I too believe these dogs come into our lives for a reason. I know it is frustrating beyond belief, but there will be light at the end of the tunnel.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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Sammy was an "epic" chewer.  I should've named him gator!  He destroyed everything in his path, including my friends $10,000.00 snowmobile... After 2 years it just seemed to click with him, and now I have the best dog I have ever had.

Hope that gives you some comfort,

Elizabeth and Sammy

Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in the right front leg 8/23/10,

leg fractured 8/27/10,

leg amputated 8/30/10

http://sammyand.....pawds.com/

 

I couldn't begin to say how special Sammy is to us.  Living and laughing with and loving this wonderful boy is priceless.

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10 March 2011 - 7:52 am
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our two cents - don't give up on your pup!!  a strap can be fixed, it's not a deal breaker.  if you can't find a way to fix it, PM me and you can send it to me and i'll fix it.  puppies' jobs are to chew and chew....this will pass.  if you give up now, you will forever have the 'what if's', which will be much worse than the physical stuff.  hang in there, like everyone else has said, it passes and one day you look down and there's this perfect little pup setting next to you. 

charon & gayle

Life is good, so very, very good!!! Gayle enjoyed each and every moment of each and every wonderful day (naps included).  She left this world December 12, 2011 – off on a new adventure.

Love Never Ends

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10 March 2011 - 8:15 am
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Hi Susan,

Cocoa is a young dog with no previous training, so you have to expect undesirable behavior. It takes consistency and patience, and ultimately is helped by the dog's maturity. Some aspects of individual dogs' behavior need active management for life. Almost everyone who has had a young dog experiences training challenges. It can be frustrating, but try to focus on the final result. Realize Cocoa's behavior is not intentional. She does not know what is expected. Most stumbles are not the dog's fault, but an oversite on their human's part.

I'm happy your going to find a trainer. Be sure you check them out first & have a conversation with them prior to class, to be sure they are willing to accommodate Cocoa's needs. They should be willing to adapt their class to her. Simply having to focus in a group of dogs is going to help Cocoa tremendously

Just a couple of thoughts on your immediate problem:

First: Crating is not bad!!! It is an invaluable training tool.

How large is your crate? It should only be big enough for her to stand & turn in. She is young & healthy enough to follow this guideline, even as a tripawd. If your crate is too big, consider blocking off a portion.

I noticed in your lovely letter to the vet, Cocoa has "the run of the house" when you are home. That is too much freedom, with too many choices. She needs more structure. Adapt it to your lifestyle, but she needs exercise, quiet crate time, some time out, etc. She has no skills at this point & will only get in trouble if left to figure things out. It's confusing for her to have free run sometimes & then, in her mind, randomly be placed in the crate for an extended period.. More crate time when you are home. Make it part of her life & routine.

I think I mentioned in response to your previous post, she should have nothing in the crate she can chew & nothing nearby she can pull in. Squeaky toys, soft toys & rope pulls should never, ever be in her crate. Save them for other play times. Have you stuffed a Kong? This will keep her busy. I don't know if you are feeding kibble, but if so, you can feed her meals this way. Stuff it & freeze it.

Her harness should not be on in the crate, ever. It's a safety issue. If she wiggles it up, or gets it caught, or eats it, it is a choking hazard. Same with collars. The ONLY sure, safe route is nothing on in the crate. It is amazing what dogs can do and tragic when something happens.

I don't mean to be harsh, but if her harness was left on & she chewed it, it is simply because she wasn't supervised. It happens to all of us. For dogs, it's just an opportunity to relieve boredom, for us, it's $60.00!

As far as the Ruff Wear harness goes, I know it's really helpful to so many, but it isn't mandatory. Cocoa is a young, medium sized dog….she may not need the extra help right now. My dog is 13 & doesn't use one. If your looking to it as an assist on leash walks, it isn't the best choice.  A no pull harness, (Sensation or Sensible —avoid the Premier, it needs constant adjustment) is an excellent choice. Any harness with a d-ring on the top, will encourage pulling. I'm obsessed with collar pulling. Aside from obvious reasons, tripwads don't need more stress on their front ends.

Try to remember…everyone goes through this. It will get better. I am sending you some articles regarding some common training issues from Whole Dog Journal. They are written by Pat Miller. There are some nice guidelines, schedules, ideas etc.

Cynthia

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I realize, in retrospect, that my original reply about this might sound like I'm advocating finding a new home for Cocoa. I really didn't mean that, but rather to give you some perspective. Also, we sometimes feel that we need "permission" to do things like this, and if you don't think it's working out in a way that's fair to both you and Cocoa, then I think you should do what you feel you need to do.

However, I just want to reiterate that simply rescuing a dog from a dire situation does not make you responsible for that dog for the remainder of its life. I think that you are wise to be asking yourself these questions now and not in 6 months.

And for the record, I would love to see Cocoa stay with you. I don't know if I believe in fate or karma or anything like that, but having rescued a dog in similiar circumstances, I feel that the bond that grows is different in all the right ways. The rewards can be enormous.

I just didn't want you--or anyone else--thinking that I was advocating for a new home for Cocoa. But I think the worst thing that could happen is that you keep her out of a sense of obligation when you really don't want to. That one I'll stand by.

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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Thank you all for the support. It was just what I needed and I feel back to myself after a good nights sleep. Mom is going to take care of getting the straps fixed. You are all right that this is a learning experience for us both.

I wasn't offended at the suggestion of finding a new home for Cocoa. It actually gave me a sense of relief knowing I wasn't evil for thinking it. However, she is mine and I am hers. And Gigi, well, she's in the familia too.

I'm on my phone at the airport, so typing isn't the easiest. I just wanted to let you know how much your responses meant to me.

Cocoa

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10 March 2011 - 12:32 pm
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as per chewing:

just make sure to keep her safe while she is in the chewing stage. It is one thing to eat a piece of pizza and another something toxic.

I adopted Tazzie at age 18 months, and he was a counter surfer supreme. You could not eat a meal in the same room without him vacuuming the counters when your back was turned. One day I came home to find a less hyper Tazzie than usual, lying next to a pile of Advil strewn on the floor and the chewed open and half-empty Advil container (the kind that contains 100 pills). It must have been a 10 foot climb to get it (on a shelf, in a deep corner, above the kitchen sink), but he did it. Luckily he survived despite acute kidney failure (barely) and I constricted his space when I was out of the house (and was even more careful with anything that was potentially toxic).

The chewing phase tends to be worse at about 7 to 14 months in age, and from my experience I'd hazard a guess even for older dogs when they are first adopted. It will pass, or at least they start to restrict their chewing to relatively edible objects as they get older (pizza rather than drywall).

 

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Hi there Cocoas's mom,

I recently rescued two dogs. A mellow 7 year old and a hyper 1+ year old.

I spoke to my Vet (Dr. Pam, lucky me!) and she suggested a couple of things. One is a pheromone, with a scent that only dogs can smell, which replicates their mother's smell when the pups were nursing. The product is available in spray, drops and the way I went was a diffuser. It plugs in to an electrical outlet and emits the pheromone slowly and steadily 24 hours a day. The other thing I am using is Rescue Remedy. Natural drops I put in Maya's food. I tried a couple of other natural stress relievers, but the Rescue Remedy has worked great. Since I started her on that a couple of weeks ago, I have not come home to any disasters.

Glad you got some rest!

Deborah

Mom to Spirit JD and the quadpaws Serena & Maya

JD

One Tough Girl

(1999-2010)

-Diagnosed with osteosarcoma of her left front leg –

-Amputation July 23 2010 –

-The cancer didn't get her, but she is gone-

-She fought the cancer and loved life till bloat brought her down August 29th, 2010-

Now she watches over her mom and two new sisters, the Quad-Paws Serena and Maya

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Sorry my post was short (I'm Cometdog also) because of the posting issues! 

But I wanted to add, you are not evil! 

I've wanted to give away every puppy I've had!  I tried my darnest to give Comet away. I even ran an ad in the paper (I already had 3 grown dogs)  No takers.  I still remember the feeling of not wanting her.  And I can't imagine not having her.   My life would have been so different and empty not experiencing her love.

 

And Rocket aka monkeybutt about put me over the edge because he was so busy and annoying! He didn't get his name for nothing!  I didn't realize he was so damned smart and needed his mind busy.  We discovered the frisbee so he could show off his jumping high skills.   

Cosmo is a dream but it's just been 2 weeks and I can see he has the devil in him!  He is just "rearranging my shoes" right now but I know if I leave them out then he'll be eating them soon!

And Isabelle's mom is right.  It's all about humans not making them the dog's we want.  Dogs just don't know and are usually bored.  We have to show them in a loving way what acceptable and not. 

The best thing I've discovered is…"Ignore the negative, reward the positive".  Carry a treat at all times in your pocket and everything that is something you like, give Cocoa a treat.  It works!

Good luck!

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I just wanted to thank everyone again for your support during my "panic attack" last week. I put some of your recommendations into immediate use and plan to review them all again tonight. I don't know where we would be without all of you!

Cocoa

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Oh my goodness. You sound like me a year ago (almost exactly to the day!). I think I have a post here even not long after I adopted the pups kind of saying "Omg, what did we do?!" 

We adopted Dante as a puppy (AND his sister - what were we thinking?!). So here I am, two puppies, after losing a senior, very calm, smart, well behaved old guy. Vastly different. We wanted a dog. One dog, older, mellow, dog. Not two puppies. Somehow we lost our memories of what having puppies is like (I hear this happens with people and newborn babies, too!). Also, in the midst of all of Dante's tripawdness, we failed to realize, he was still a puppy in every sense. A puppy with three legs is still a puppy, who knew? 

I think the excitement lasted a week or so. And then the dread set in - I waffled a lot. Are we the best home? Can we do this? Why am I not in love with them yet? This is SO draining!

But we pushed and persevered.  I love my babies now - they'll be 15 months old on the 24th and they sort of resemble well behaved dogs now. At least when we don't leave the house or have visitors, anyways! 

Our beagle didn't settle until she was almost 3 - that was a fun ride, and that was also the whole reason I never wanted another puppy ever again. They have to be as cute as they are, or they wouldn't make it to be grown dogs!  She chewed everything in sight and then some - and for an 18lb dog, she can chew through pretty much anything and everything she sets her mind to. It took a lot of reading, learning, and WELL over a thousand dollars of lost items/ruined carpet/tables/decks/sanity before we realized all that we were doing wrong and what she needed from us. And as Shanna mentioned with trouble - one day Coda went from being the devil to the best dog we've both ever owned. She's amazing. Something clicked and all of our hard work that seemed to fall on deaf ears sunk in and I couldn't ask for a more balanced, better behaved dog. 

What you're doing, will sink in, even when it doesn't feel like it. One day your wild child will become a stellar canine citizen - until then, deep breaths, patience and puppy kisses will get you through this! 

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