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Preparing for Amputation
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20 October 2023 - 6:35 am
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Hello Everyone,

My name is Lara, I live in a small town just a couple hours north of Toronto in Ontario, Canada. Our beloved dog Venga is scheduled to have his front right leg amputated on November 7th. I am really scared and having a hard time facing this. We have been putting this off for some time. He has spindle cell carcinoma. He has had multiple surgeries over the last two years, all in attempts to remove the tumours. The tumours keep coming back. Each reoccurrence seems to get worse.

My intention in reaching out to you all is just to get support. We have a lot of questions and fears. He paddles at night excursively, we are worried that after the amputation, his stitches will be effected by this. I am scared that my pooch will be in pain and confused following the amputation. Having said that, I also see that dogs can live happy lives as a tripawds.

If there is any advise you can offer, please do, every little bit helps. Thank you so much for being here, I really appreciate that this community exists!

Lara

PS: I would love to share a photo of him, but I don't know how!

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20 October 2023 - 10:46 am
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Hi Lara and Venga, welcome. Your future posts won't need to wait for approval so post away! You've come to the right place, we are here for you and hope to put your worries at ease. Many people have been in your situation, and understand what it's like to be so scared and worried.

So yes if you've already poked around our community you can see that dogs can do very well on three legs! They will recover at their own rate, so try not to compare Venga's recovery with others. He his is on dog on his own timeline, but he will get there. Have you seen our What to Expect articles ? Or Jerry's Required Reading List ? Our Tripawds e-books library is also helpful.

It's normal to think your dog will be in pain and confused. But if the pain management is done well, he should not be in terrible pain, just discomfort. Be sure to ask your vet what kind of pain control he will be on, because pain control can make or break recovery.

And while he may seem confused, it's not going to be about his missing leg but more about why he's feeling so weird from the medications, and why his mom is so worried. 

Remember, the stronger and more optimistic you are, the more Venga will feel that and reflect it back to you. It's your attitude that will set the tone for recovery.

Tell us more about Venga. How old? What kind of breed is he? Are there other dogs in your family that will be there during his recovery? The more we know the better we can offer suggestions to help ease your concerns.

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20 October 2023 - 11:12 am
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You are not alone on this journey, okay?   We get it.  You have come to the right place for support and information.  Plus, we understand all your fears and concerns.  We had them too.

You are doing the right thing remove all of Venga’s pain and restore him to his happy pain free self.

Reovery is no picnic for the first couple of weeks.  It’s major surgery and he will be adapting to three all while on some good pain meds. Don’t compare his recovery to others. Some are mobile the first 24hrs, some take several days to begin to get their sea legs.  We often call the early part of recovery…”What have I done TO y dog?” phase. You, like everyone will soon be saying “I’m so glad I did this FOR my Venga!”

Review the links Jerry gave you.  You’ll want nonslip scatter rugs for traction .  The first early part of recovery is rest, rest, rest.  Just short leashed potty breaks and back in for more rest.  No jumping or running. Heavy notwant to eat ice for a few days or poop.  But drinking and peeing are important.

Willhe be staying at an overnight staffed clinic? That’s the best option if possible

Paddling  at night?  You mean he sort of runs in his sleep?   His pain meds should help keep him settled.  You can mention that to the Vet but I sure the stitches are secure enough to hold during “paddling”

I will send you a PM with my email address.  You can send me some pictures and I would be more than happy to post them.  We ove pictures around here.

pin the meantime here-s a link for adding images .

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and  Merry Myrtle and Frankie too,

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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20 October 2023 - 1:13 pm
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Thank you so much for your responses! I am already feeling a bit better about this and have tears in my eyes as I type this! 

 

Venga is somewhat of a mystery dog. We met him while traveling to Costa Rica, he was a stray hanging around our Airbnb. We all fell in love and felt like a family. When we returned to Canada, we started the adoption process with a local rescue and vet. The process took about 6 months. We have been together now for 5 years. 

 

Our best guess is that Venga is somewhere between 8-10 years old. He appears to be a golden lab/retriever mix, possible with American Staf. We really don't know. There are no other dogs in the home, just him and lots of love from us.

 

We have consulted with two vets - each have a preference in terms of amputation. The orthopaedic surgeon in the area is recommending we leave a stump, the other clinic who we have been more involved with lately is recommending full removal of the scapula. We would prefer the later, especially given the articles we read here, so what is confusing is that the ortho-surgeon has a reputation for being 'the best' in this area, so it seem contrary to oppose his advice. We would love to hear your thoughts on that. 

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20 October 2023 - 1:15 pm
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Hi Sally,

 

Thank you so much for your response. To answer your questions, we have wood flooring throughout the house, and plan to sleep on the main level with Venga through his recovery. Thank you for brining up the floor covering piece, I will consider that and how I can make traction easier for him.

Will he be able to do stairs again one day? He likes to sleep on the second floor with us normally. 

 

We does 'run in his sleep', ALWAYS (chasing rabbits). Good to know that the paddling will settle with the medications, I will definetly bring this to the vet's awareness 🙂

I don't know yet about an overnight stay following the surgery - I sure hope that is the case, I will inquire. 

 

I really appreciate these questions and considerations, it is helping me to feel better prepared 🙂

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20 October 2023 - 7:52 pm
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Wow he sure knew who to pick for his people! What a beautiful story.

OK so as a larger, senior-ish dog, he will need more time to adjust. So be patient, and don't compare his recovery to others. 

Here's an article about why more vets are leaving as much residual limb as possible, it's a newer way of doing things (our info here is just catching up with it) so it doesn't surprise me that the board-certified vet surgeon would prefer this method. I would want to know if he has done it very often, because wound healing can be an issue when the skin isn't sutured to withstand the abuse a stump can take during the first few months after surggery:

For Hind Limb Amputee Dogs & Cats, is a Full or Partial Leg Amputation Best?

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20 October 2023 - 9:13 pm
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Glad you are feeling a bit more relaxed as you process everything.  We know how scary this is  The more information you have and the more questions you get answered, you will be as prepared as possible on this crazy journey.

 

  vets are leaving as much residual limb as possible, 

Jerry, I’m confused (no surprise)🤪😱. The article reinforces why full amputation is better than leaving a stump . Yet it sounds like you are sing some surgeons are prompting leaving stump now?

other clinic who we have been more involved with lately is recommending full remo

FWIW, sometimes it comes down to what makes most sense to you and what clinic you are most comfortable with.  Again, FWIW, many surgeons don’t even mention an option and go with full , or I guess sometimes  stump.  I know noting was ever discussed about my Happy Hannah other than she would have a full amputation.

Okay, give that sweet  pup some treats for us.  Remember, Venga is not worried about a thing.  The bliss of being  a dog, right?

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Sally  and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

PS.  I thoroughly enjoyed reading the backstory of how Venga found you.  She knew exactly what she was doing when she sought you out all those years agar.  To k ow she has been loved by you all these years melts my heart.  She deserves that…..and she loves you….and you deserve that❤️❤️❤️
Also, I love the picture you sent me.  I having a little challenge posting  (new tavlet) but I’ll figure it out👍

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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20 October 2023 - 9:28 pm
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Drumroll please…🥁🥁🥁,,,,introducing the handsome and beloved VENGA❤️❤️

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Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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22 October 2023 - 6:48 am
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Thank you so much for your comforting words and support, we are so grateful for your time and energy sp_hearticon2

We are keen to read the articles that you have shared. I see that the articles are focused on hind leg amputation. Venga is facing a front leg amputation, would there be different views on that?

We are exploring purchasing a special harness in preparation, and also mats for the floors to help with traction . We are also wondering about his capacity for stairs once he heals. 

We will take a closer look at the articles you shared this evening, and may get back to you with more questions and comments. Thank you, thank you thank you sp_hearticon2sp_hearticon2sp_hearticon2

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22 October 2023 - 3:53 pm
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Oh what a sweeeeet puppy face! He is gorgeous. Thank you Sally.

When it comes to stairs, how many do you have? Most Tripawds can handle up to 3 or 4 steps at a time. Anything more than that and it's always smart to assist them with a harness that has a handle on top. That's why we love the Ruffwear Flagline harness (especially for front leg amputees). By helping your dog with stairs (going down is always harder for front-limb amputees, but they can go up without any real issues), you can take less stress off the joints and make sure they don't tumble down the stairs.

As for front versus rear leg amputation surgery procedures, yes you are right that study was done on hind limb amputees. Coincidentally, we just spoke with a rehab therapist last week and talked about that very subject (leaving a lot of remaining limb, or not). She mentioned that it would be the same thinking for a front leg amputee as well, to leave as much limb as possible especially if a prosthetic might be in their dog's future.

Ask any questions you'd like, we are here for you and adorable Venga!

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24 October 2023 - 5:20 am
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Thank you so much Jerry for the link to the harness, we will go ahead and purchase that. We do have a signifiant flight of stairs to the second floor. Venga would normally go up at night to sleep on his bed in our bedroom, we will have to make an adjustment and keep him on the main level until we can assess what is capacity is.

Interesting regarding the front leg amputation as being better to have a partial. The main tumour has been showing up consistently in the same spot, right at the elbow for the last 2 + years. What is different now is that in addition to that spot, a cluster of tumours has appeared just above the original tumour and up the leg toward his armpit, sitting just below the armpit. We are consulting with the vet this morning, however, given this, I don't know that a partial would be a good idea at this stage, since the tumours have spread. It will be interesting to hear what the vet says.

We also heard from the othro-surgeon I referred to in a previous post, that getting an x-ray of the other front leg would be a good idea, to asses for whether there is arthritis in that leg, or just to simply determine the health of that leg, to see if it will be able to withstand the weight it will have once the amputation happens. He suggested that if the leg is 'weak', that there is no point in proceeding with the amputation at all! We don't agree with that.

It feels right to us to slow things down and see how Venga does with three legs, and give him the chance to try life out as a Tripawd. We are not getting the message from Venga that he wants to leave this Earthly plane. I am curious to know your thoughts on this? Thank you again for your time sp_hearticon2

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24 October 2023 - 11:14 am
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You are so welcome. Yeah the flight of stairs is tricky. We had 18 steps to take our Jerry in and out of our house. He was also missing a front leg, so we blocked off the staircase, and he only went outside when we took him. We would always assist him going up or down stairs. That's when we discovered how helpful the Ruffwear harnesses can be for a Tripawd. As Venga gets stronger you can help him up and down the stairs with a harness handle, just don't let him do the stairs alone, even when he is healed up.

cluster of tumours has appeared just above the original tumour and up the leg toward his armpit, sitting just below the armpit. We are consulting with the vet this morning, however, given this, I don't know that a partial would be a good idea at this stage, since the tumours have spread. It will be interesting to hear what the vet says.

Your instinct is correct, cancer can change how an amputation is performed. It's all about getting as wide of margins around the tumors as possible to prevent it from returning.

 He suggested that if the leg is 'weak', that there is no point in proceeding with the amputation at all! We don't agree with that.

I wouldn't take one vet's opinion if that is the case, I would get at least two more, preferably from a vet focused on orthopedic medicine if possible, and a rehab therapist too. Many people here have been in a similar situation and multiple opinions helped them make a good choice for their dog.

We are keeping our paws crossed for good news from today's visit, keep us posted!

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24 October 2023 - 7:46 pm
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Hello Lovely People,

We had our consultation with the vet, and we are feeling confident that a full amputation would be the best choice for Venga. Thank you for all the info and support you have offered, it has helped tremendously in making this decision. 

We are beginning to make preparations to our home. In terms of traction mats, I am thinking of purchasing several yoga mats to put down as a starting point. 

I am looking into purchasing the harness you recommended. I see that there are two types:

1. Ruffwear, Web Master, Multi-Use Support Dog Harness

2. Ruffwear, Flagline Dog Harness, Lightweight Lift-and-Assist Harness

Do you prefer one over the other?

I cannot emphasize enough how helpful this forum has been - this is an invaluable resource that I intend to share with the vets in our community!

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PS: I tried to post a photo in the last post, no luck!! And yes, I read the forum tips 🙂 I would love to learn how to do this to be able to post through Venga's process 🙂

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You still have my email, right?   Would be happy to post Venga’s pictures until……..

FWIW, I’m glad you are  doing the full amp and your Vet team confirmed that was the best path forward.  Even if Benga does have arthritis I doubt that would be-a deal breaker.  We see dogs do well  on three in site of some very obvious arthritis.

You are doing such a great job of prep!!
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Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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