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15 January 2014 - 9:22 pm
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Hi Anna,

I'm so glad to hear the appointment went well. Can I ask what clinic you're working with? We're pretty familiar with a lot of clinics around the country. If they do limb sparing surgery there then that's a pretty advanced clinic. You're in great hands if that's the case.

Congrats on being an informed, educated advocate for Tyson! That is HUGE. You have a great head on your shoulders and are handling this very well.

I'm curious though why they would recommend limb sparing if they're not sure exactly what type of cancer might be present? Yes, bone biopsies can be brutally painful but when all else fails they do give a definite prognosis - usually. Has a fine needle aspirate been done yet? I would really want to know what I'm dealing with before making a decision like that.

When it comes to limb sparing, I would ask them what their success rate is for dogs with that specific type of cancer. We have seen limb sparing success stories, but not that many. Oftentimes an infection will set in after the surgery, necessitating amputation anyways. Ironically for some cancers, scientists believe that infection leads to better cancer remission rates, as with the case of osteosarcoma. Usually limb sparing done as a last resort measure for giant breed dogs who would otherwise not do well as Tripawds. Limb sparing has come a long way, but so few people do it I would want to be very sure they have a good long-term success rate for controlling the cancer with it and would also want extra reassurance because of the cost, which is significantly more expensive than amputation.

If your Mom is unsure about amputation as an option for Tyson, then yes, by all means have her come here. But why do you think she is so uncertain? Many people are also unsure about their own dog's capabilities on three legs but once they come here and talk to  others, and with their vet's approval, they usually see that it's not as horrible as they imagine. It's not right for every dog but for most, they do great.

I hope this helps somewhat. Whatever we can do to make this journey easier please let us know OK?

 

 

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16 January 2014 - 9:09 am
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Hi Sally and Happy Hannah! 

I think we've all made the decision to do the limb-sparing surgery. This weekend when I go home, I will be showing my parents this website and encouraging them that if this surgery doesn't work, amputation doesn't mean the end of the world. I'd rather have a happy dog hopping on three legs than no dog at all. I think that the limb-sparing is worth a shot, just because Tyson doesn't have the greatest legs in the world. They are ok, and I think they would be able to stand amputation, but I feel like limb-sparing is worth a shot. I really hope that it will work! He's a strong pup, so I think he'll be 

ok! 

Would you recommend doing the urine test to completely rule out a fungal infection? I mean, at this point, I would gladly take a fungal infection over cancer, but I don't really think that this is the case. 

I forgot who asked, but Tyson, my family and I are in Illinois, and we took him to VCA Aurora Specialty Clinic. They do the surgery there. They told us it would take a few days to get the object that they will replace the bone with. 

I'm very frightened for this surgery. He's 11 years old and I'm so worried that there is going to be some sort of complication. I have seen on this site that there have been older dogs that have gone through this type of surgery successfully, and that does make me feel better. 

I wonder if there are any tripawds in the Chicago-land area. 

 

Thanks again for everyone's help!

 

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16 January 2014 - 9:24 am
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Hi Anna,

We do have Tripawds in the Chicago area! One I can think of is Cadence and mom Heather, they post here as trifod2004.  Heather will have the Tripawd Tribute Leash at an event called My Furry Valentine.

Would knowing it's not a fungal infection change what you are doing?  I think I would want to know, but if the surgery is necessary either way then maybe not so important up front.

I hope the limb sparing works for Tyson.  Please keep us posted on his progress.  I hope you know that once you join here you are always part of the family.  Sharing your experiences will help the next person struggling to make a decision.  The cancer journey sucks no matter how many legs you have, it helps to have all the support you can get!

 

Karen

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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16 January 2014 - 1:18 pm
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OKAY! GOOD! You've got a plan and now you and Tyson can move forward to recovery!!
I guess they answered all the questions Jerry suggested to your satisfaction and that can help you move forward with confidence!

AND, you have a "Plan B" if necessary! Now that's called having "all your bases covered"!

You do know we MUST have more pictures of that Magnificant Tyson! clap He looks so handsome!

PLEASE keep us posted and let us know how things are going, okay? As said earlier' we are all family here!

Sending you pawsitive energy!

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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17 January 2014 - 12:10 pm
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Thanks everyone for the well wishes! 

 

I would love for you guys to see more pictures of my pretty boy! Can anyone tell me how to upload more pictures? I can't seem to figure it out :) thanks!

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17 January 2014 - 2:58 pm
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tysonboy said
Can anyone tell me how to upload more pictures?

Here are detailed instructions for adding images to forum posts. If you don't already share photos somewhere online, you can start a free blog and upload them to your Media Library. If you need further help, send a PM and e can set a time to meet in the chat room.

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17 January 2014 - 4:23 pm
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Hi Anna,

I don't know of any dogs who did limb sparing surgery but I do know of a cat. I'm not sure if its the same type of surgery, but Joey the garden cat, a little celebrity cat in Arkansas had osteosarcoma and had limb sparing surgery. I've copied a link to some info about it here. Do keep in mind OSA is much less aggressive in cats than it is in dogs, but I wanted to give you some info on limb sparing since I did know one situation where it has worked out :). I know whatever decision you make will be with Tyson's best interests in mind because you love your boy!!!

Here's the link:
http://www.azzo.....ment-plan/

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo

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20 January 2014 - 10:12 am
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Here's an update for everyone. I really need all the advice I can get because my family is very torn. 

Well, we just received the estimate for the limb-spare surgery. That runs between 6,000-8,000 dollars. Before the estimate, we thought that would be the best thing for him, but now for that price, what if it doesn't work? What if he gets an infection? 

We are starting to weigh our options with the amputation. The problem with the amputation, is that we don't know how good Tyson's hind legs will be to support himself. He's had some concerns of hip dysplasia and nerve damage in his back paws, so we are so worried that if we do the amputation, he won't even be able to walk afterwards. 

We have an appointment at the vet today to do an x-ray of all three of his other legs. I'm so nervous now that they're going to tell us that amputation would be absolutely terrible for him. 

 

Has anyone had experience with this?? My appointment is at 3:30 this afternoon (central time), and I would love some input before I go! 

 

Thanks everyone :)

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20 January 2014 - 1:27 pm
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I just popped into the chat right now so feel free to stop by before your appointment if you'd like.

As I mentioned, here at Tripawds we usually only see dogs whose limb sparing surgeries haven't been successful. However I have met some in person who have done great. Not many, but a few. I would only do it if there were no other options or my dog wasn't a good candidate for life as a Tripawd. The price range they gave you is about right.

One thing that will help you decide is getting an opinion from a board-certified orthopedic surgeon if you haven't already. I'm guessing VCA has one there? In a situation like this, they are exceptionally qualified (more than a general practice vet) to tell you what his chances of success are as a Tripawd. If they say that he isn't a candidate, then limb sparing would probably be a smart choice if you can afford it.

I'm so sorry, I know this is a tough spot to be in. If there's anything we can do to make it easier please let us know.

 

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20 January 2014 - 3:52 pm
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Hi Jerry and everyone,

We just got back from the vet, and they did x-rays of all three of his other legs and his back. HIs hips look good, as do his knees. She said that he has a little bit of arthritis in his back, which might account for the fact that Tyson sometimes has difficulty getting up. At this point, I really don't know what to do. We are torn.
If we do the limb-spare, there's a chance that it might not work. But what if we do it and it works fine? If we amputate, what if he can't support himself with the other three legs? What if he dies during surgery? Every option right now is killing me because I'm so afraid. I really am trying to stay positive, but I can't help having these fears. We need to make a decision tonight.
I do need some encouragement here. I cannot fathom putting Tyson to sleep if any of these options don't work. He is so full of life, it's unbelievable. Yesterday, we played for an hour. He almost burst out into a full on sprint when I took him out, (of course I had to stop him). What happens if my poor baby doesn't make it through the surgery?

This website has helped me out tremendously, more than any of the vets have so far. Thank you everyone. I do really need my tripawd family right now. Any advice is completely welcome.

Thanks everyone :)

-Anna and Tyson

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20 January 2014 - 5:02 pm
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Hi - we actually had a pretty straightforward decision to make.  Two weeks ago our greyhound Eva was in quite severe pain from suspected bone cancer - although she was still eating and enjoying cuddles she was in too much pain to have any quality of life.  I had spent about five days reading up on bone cancer before we managed to get her x-rays, and was really worried that we wouldn't be able to do anything.  Our normal vet was really discouraging about amputation, so we took her for a second opinion, and this vet, an orthopedic surgeon, thought amputation was a viable option.  He kept her in for a lung x-ray - I was so happy when he called to say her lungs were clear and he went on and did the amputation.  The choice was amputate or put to sleep, so I didn't really worry about the risks of the surgery - yes, all surgery carries some risk, but if the alternative is worse you have to take that risk.  We're now two weeks post-amp - that's two weeks we wouldn't have had otherwise.  No idea how much longer we've got with her, but nobody knows how long they've got, so we're just trying to enjoy life as it comes.

I understand how important Tyson is to you, and know that you want to do the best for him.  You need to think about what will be least painful and stressful for him - there are lots of accounts on here of dogs who have had amputations which should give you an idea of what amputation, at least, will involve.  Whether amputation is the best option depends very much on the individual dog - some dogs will not be suitable for mental or physical reasons, but I think you need to start from the viewpoint that amputation itself is not a big bad scary thing - for the right dog it's a viable, positive option. For another dog, it won't be a suitable option because of some particular thing to do with that dog's situation, not because amputation itself is in principle a bad thing.

I don't know anything about limb sparing, but you shouldn't feel bad if you need to think about costs - Tyson doesn't want your family to go bankrupt and have to eat beans on toast (or whatever you eat in the States) for the rest of your lives.

You have to look honestly at how Tyson might cope with the different options you've got, and how you as a family can support him, but don't torture yourself with what ifs that you can't control.

It's a horrible position to be in, but you will do what is best for Tyson.  And as everybody else will probably be along to say, he's not worried about any of this - he's probably just wondering when he's getting his next treat, if he's like every lab I've ever known!

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20 January 2014 - 5:44 pm
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Hi Anna and Tyson,

First of all, please accept a big hug from New Zealand! I understand what you and your family are going through, we also went around and around through all the scenarios when our mini schnauzer Dotty got a bone cancer diagnosis. At first, I was all sensible-farm-girl and couldn't imagine putting Dotty through surgery in any way, I thought we would just have to put her to sleep. As the heartbreaking reality of losing Dot sank in our 3 kids campaigned for amputation, my husband and I pestered the vet for information on limb-saving options and then the vet quietly suggested we visit this website. In our case the limb saving surgery was more for us, not Dotty. The vet explained all the risks that have been talked about here and then it seemed clear that amputation was the only viable option if we wanted some more time with Dot. It was also the only way that a proper diagnosis could be made, an excruciating bone biopsy (I WISH we hadn't done it) provided no clear diagnosis on the type of cancer but other less invasive tests told us that Dot was an otherwise healthy 10 year old dog. With a bad back leg. 

She is 8 months post-amp (no chemo or radiation) and we love having her around, appreciating that everyday is a bonus.

Good luck making this big decision, your dog will still love you no matter what.

 

Victoria and Dotty

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20 January 2014 - 6:55 pm
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Hi Anna.  My boy Max was diagnosed with osteosarcoma way back in November 2008.  At the time, the only two options we considered were limb sparing surgery or amputation.  I was against amputation because I couldn't imagine taking away one of his legs.  However, our oncologist told us the limb sparing surgery had an extremely long recovery time (months!).  Also, at the time, the only place "close" to us that did that surgery was in Colorado (we are in California).  So, limb sparing surgery went out the window, and the only thing I concentrated on was amputation.  

Now that my mind was set on amputation, we were told Max may not be a candidate because he had hip dysplasia in both hips (nothing major, every once in a while it would affect him for a day or two, mostly when it was cold).  So, I freaked out again, thinking now my boy had no chance at all.  We had a sit down with the surgeon.  He looked at the x-rays of Max's back legs and told us he thought Max could handle it, and if Max was his dog he'd go through with the amputation surgery.  That was all we needed to hear.  Max had his left front leg amputated the next morning.  

Max took a bit longer to recover than some of the stories you've probably already read here on Tripawds.  Max really wasn't back to his "normal" self until about 4 1/2 weeks after surgery.  I think it was a combination of major surgery, and coming off all the meds he was on.  But once we got over that hill, there was no stopping him.  I still consider the amputation of Max's leg to be one of the best decisions I have ever made in my entire life (and I'm almost twice your age!).  Max had too much life in him for us to give up on him.  We ended up doing chemo, and Max lived a total of 14 months after diagnosis/surgery.  Best 14 months I've ever had!!

You are going to read so many different stories here on Tripawds.  All you can do is get all the knowledge available to you, and make the best decision for your boy.  Whichever decision you make will be based on your absolute love for your boy, so it will be the right decision.  

 

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20 January 2014 - 7:20 pm
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Hi everyone!
Thank you all so much for the encouraging words and for sharing your stories. It really puts things into new perspective for me. I think that after hearing everything, the safer bet is to do the amputation.
I have a few more questions about the surgery:

1. How much should I be worried about Tyson actually getting through the surgery. He's 11 years old, so he's a bit older than a lot of dogs I've read about on this site.
2. Although his leg is hurting him, he is still putting a significant amount of weight on it. It almost seems like he needs that leg in order to balance, or else he wouldn't be putting himself through the pain of putting his weight on it. What if he really does need it?
3. Does anyone know of any reputable vets to perform this surgery in the Chicago area? The oncologist we met with was ok, but we don't really feel like we can trust her. As you all know, this surgery is such a big deal, we need Tyson to be with a surgeon that we actually trust.

Thanks again everyone!

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20 January 2014 - 8:06 pm
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Anna, it's great seeing you in the chat tonight and hearing about the latest updates. Tyson is such a lucky boy to have such loving, caring humans on his side.

Many of these answers are found in Jerry's Required Reading List and the Tripawds e-book Library but to answer your questions here:

1. How much should I be worried about Tyson actually getting through the surgery. He's 11 years old, so he's a bit older than a lot of dogs I've read about on this site.
Every surgery has risks. If you find a qualified veterinarian with up-to-date anesthesia protocols his risk is no greater than any other dogs. Senior dogs do fine under ideal circumstances; they didn't used to, which is why in the old days vets would say it was riskier for them, but it's not like that anymore.
2. Although his leg is hurting him, he is still putting a significant amount of weight on it. It almost seems like he needs that leg in order to balance, or else he wouldn't be putting himself through the pain of putting his weight on it. What if he really does need it?
Animals do whatever it takes not to show their weakness. When the pain gets bad enough he will present a limp and at that point the pain is horrible. If you already know you're dealing with bone cancer, don't wait for it to get that bad or risk a fracture too.
3. Does anyone know of any reputable vets to perform this surgery in the Chicago area?
So happy to see that Lori and Sherry were able to give you some referrals in the chat tonight!
 

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