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Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Hi!

So, my medical oddity of a dog has finally fallen prey to the odds...yesterday, we got the diagnosis of osteosarcoma--we had his left front limb amputated today, and he is just out of surgery.

No lung mets, and while he seemed to respond fine to the piroxicam and we could have possibly held off on the amp, we chose to do it immediately. One, we are going on vacation for 10 days two weeks from now. This way, he will be by and large adapted when we have to leave. Two, the lysis was pretty advanced--our vet was suprised it hadn't fractured already, esp. given the snow and ice and unstable surfaces, and all of the stairs in our house. That would be a disaster, as A) it would be horrible for him and B) our younger dog is extremely dominant, and while they get along fine...she would take him out in a second, were he to have that happen. Sounds cold, but I have been worried about it.

Sampson is almost 13 (12 years, 8 months) and an akita cross (dad=akita; mom =GSD/dobie mix. Both died of osteosarcoma). He has both benign and invasive lipomas; arthritis and dysplasia in his rear legs; a low to moderate heart murmur; low thyroid; and sebaceous adenitis--an autoimmune disorder frequently found in akitas and standard poodles that makes them lose their hair. Aside from looking like the chupacabra b/c of the S.A., though, none of those ocnditions bother him overmuch, and while he is a senior, large breed dog, he is fairly content to amble about.

So, it was "Off With His Leg!" and we hope to give him some happy, pain free months in front of him. :-)

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7 March 2013 - 4:13 pm
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You certainly came to the right place, thank you for sharing Sampson's story.Best wishes for his speedy recovery!

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Welcome to our little group!  Sorry you had to find us because of the diagnosis.

Our vet is very much in support of removing the limb to stop the pain of osteosarcoma.  Wow, 13 is quite a long life - I'm hoping you bought him some quality time. He sounds like a real fighter. 

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Welcome to the club none of us wanted to be a part of.  Jackson is 2 months post-amp and he says WELCOME.  You sound very comfortable with your decision and have clearly thought it through.  That's what we love here!  How'd his surgery go?  What pain meds is he coming home with?  Is your house largely carpeted?  Many stairs to get outside? 

The day Jackson came home, he drank about a gallon of water first, then pooped (!!!!), then passed out until his bladder couldn't handle it.  He ate dinner just fine and passed out again.  Because of all his water intake, I chose to camp out on the floor with him nearest a door and take him out like every 3hrs.  After the first day, I'd say for the next 2 weeks he largely slept.  Given the experiences of other pups and kitties here, we had a great recovery.  But, do expect there to be ups and downs, mood changes, depression, and lethargy. 

Just make sure you trust your gut and listen to your pup when you both suspect something isn't right!  If you've got Q's, we're here.  if you need to vent, we're here too!  If you need immediate help, come over to CHAT (see the link at the bottom of the page?) - someone is usually there.

Best wishes!  Rest up, Sampson - you cutie!  Fight on with all your battles!

~ Katy

ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12.  Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ!  No side effects.  We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments.  He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors!  Our love. Our funny little guy!

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Welcome Sampson. This is the best place ever for support and information. You sound like a real fighter and I'm sure you will adapt well to your new normal. 

Spirit Shooter was a Miniature Australian Shepherd who was diagnosed with a MCT and had a LF amp 1/28/13 at 13-1/2 years old. 

Shooter crossed the Bridge on 8/28/13, his 7 month ampuversary and two weeks from his 14th birthday.

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7 March 2013 - 7:54 pm
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HI! Just wanted to say welcome!  Sorry you had to join our little club, but so glad you found us :)

 

Come over the chat room sometime theres usually some of us in there at night!

 

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo


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Welcome to the group. 

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fetchon3 said
Welcome to the club none of us wanted to be a part of.  Jackson is 2 months post-amp and he says WELCOME.  You sound very comfortable with your decision and have clearly thought it through.  That's what we love here!  How'd his surgery go?  What pain meds is he coming home with?  Is your house largely carpeted?  Many stairs to get outside?

~ Katy

 

Thank you for the welcome :-)

For me, the decision to amputate was a no-brainer. Had there been mets, it would have been a harder call, but as it was... not a huge decision. The estimate was quoted at about $800--which doesn't seem much to spend for a few more pain-free months. We are not doing chemo, nor did I elect to enroll him in an OSA study at the University where I work. Given his age, and all of that, what we could POSSIBLY gain with doing chemo along with the amp over palliative amputation and a good diet just wasn't worth the cost and the stress on him. I'm not ready to let him go--but more importantly, HE isn't ready to go. When it's time...it will be hard. Terribly, terribly hard, and I am sure I will WANT to back out...but I am okay with saying goodbye when he is ready. Until then, we'll hop along.

I'm not overly concerned with his psyche--animals don't care what they look like. They don't get the concept of "three months to live" or "I must be broken, now that I have one less leg." They wake up and say "I hurt. This sucks." or "Hey! I feel great! Today is going to be a great day! I'm gonna go out in the yard and eat some poopsicles!"

He'll hurt for a couple of days...then he'll be back to eating frozen poo and barking at squirrels. As for looks, well, like I said, with his SA, we've gotten the stares and the "er, what's wrong with yoru dog?" looks for years now. He was such a pretty dog, with a beautiful akita coat...and for awhile I was sad when it fell out. But then I realized, eh, he's STILL a pretty dog, and HE doesn't care what he looks like. Same thing with the leg (which, BTW, was one of the few spots he still had actual fur and not just sparse guard hairs... :D ).

Surgery went well--it went quick, says the vet. Did you use a bandsaw or something? I asked him. :p I love my vet. He knows me, and knows my husband, and he knows our animals. I consider him a friend, and trust his judgement 100%. That, I think, is worth a lot.

When I stopped in to visit and drop off a toy from home for Sam, he had really just been out of surgery for an hour or so--and was in the throes of morphine crazies (like many of the arctic breeds, he doesn't tolerate it well). So that was hard to see, but he'd just gotten a sedative, and would calm down shortly. Long term, I believe we'll be on piroxicam. He already eats grain free food high in Omega 3s (Taste of the Wild), and I have an Omega 3 supplement. I think I will look into mushroom therapy in some form, as well.

To get inside and outside, there are just like four steps form the main level--last night, my husband built a ramp for the ones in the back. We tried to get Sam to use it, but he was like WTF would I do THAT for? We'll see how he feels tomorrow :D The rest of our house DOES have a lot of steps--our bedroom is up two flights; the basement family room is down two flights. Normally, that's where he sleeps...so for awhile, that will mean he's confined to the main floor. That's hardwood--but I went out and got a ton of rubber backed rugs and made paths all over. I think our big challenge right now will be A) the other dog and B) the snow.

In addition to Sam, we have a younger (VERY bossy) dog--she's 7. And then 4 cats, ages 11, 10, 9, and 1. The 9 year old just went into stage 4 renal failure this fall, and spent a week in hospital. We almost lost him--and although he's bounced back remarkably well, he still gets Sub q's every other day. So, needless to say, our vet bills this year have been...large :D

 

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7 March 2013 - 8:52 pm
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Hey Sampson, there's no way you could look like chupacabra cause you're just too handsome even if you lost every hair on yourself! I'm sorry you lost your leg, that bites. But with that Akita in you, I know you'll sail right through this recovery. Sure the stairs will be a challenge but you'll get the hang of them and your people will hopefully stop worrying once they see how well you get around.

What university does your Momma work at? Just curious 'cause my people have a cabin near Colorado State. Go Rams! 

Anyhoo, hope you're feeling better and get to have a relaxing weekend recuperating with the pack. I'll bet your little sis is gonna be cool with you, most dogs are when they have a packmate who has amputation surgery.

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So, we are just shy of 48-hours post-op. We brought him home last night after 24-hours in hospital. Here's the rundown so far:

After the first hour of having him home, I was ready to pull my hair out, cry, yell, or all of the above. It was hard. Frustrating watching him struggle. Frustrating he won't listen and is SO not tractable (typical akita behavior..."I do what *I* want. I don't CARE if it's painful to sit face down in the snow. YOU don't tell me to come inside. *I* tell me."). Frustrating I have to try and wrangle my other dog who wants to tear his throat out (dominance issues, much?). Frustrating b/c it hurts me to have him hurt, and b/c he IS old, and he IS only going to have a few, six, 12, more months with us b/c of the cancer so of course I worry I cocked up with this decision. And that's all in an hour. winker

ANYWAY: We have no drains or no bandages, so that makes it a bit easier than some folks have it. I slept on the floor in the living room with him last night--not that anyone actually slept. He just whimpered and shook ALL. NIGHT. By 5-6 AM, he was crying out loud again. He finally drifted off at like 7 AM or so for a bit. The only time he calmed some was when I'd put a hand on him, which is why I KNOW he was freaked, b/c he's just not a touchy-touchy sort of dog (again, with the akita personality--loves his people, loves being NEAR you, just not a snuggler. NO TOUCHING!). He got his piroxicam this AM at like 8:30 with his breakfast, and went out to pee, and is sleeping now--he's been out for like four hours.

And I know from what everyone has said the phases we'll go through that none of this is unusual...but it's a lot easier to think about IN THEORY than it is to see in practice. We are at that stage where he just looks miserable and is shuffling about...and even though I KNOW I did the right thing, it sure doesn't seem like it right now.

BUT he is home, and this will pass. It will be several long days...but it will pass. Like I found out with my own major surgeries, and those of people I am close to...the minutes and hours are long, but the days and weeks are short. It will pass.

**(I WILL however, make a friendly, helpful suggestion: if you ever find yourself having to have someone amputate the front limb of an elderly dog and then bring him home (the amputee, not the amputor)...might I suggest summer as the more optimal time? You know, not when there is 18 inches of wet, gross snow on the ground with ice underneath? :D )

Here is a picture from this morning (see, I TOLD you Sam is bald! He only has some of those coarse guard hairs left. But he is still pretty on the inside ;-) )--he doesn't seem to be very interested in the bed I made for him, but one of our four cats does. Momo, the cat in question, is our CRF kitty. Between the two of them this year, I am pretty sure they are putting at least one of our vet's kids through private school. rasberry

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Awww Sweet Sampson. I'm glad you're home. Your people have a very, very good attitude. This recovery thing isn't forever, you'll get your zing back soon.

Yeah, dealing with ice and snow after amputation is the worst! One thing that  might help....when you're all relaxed like you are in the pic, let your people trim that fur between your paws. It will give you a lot more traction out there.

We hope you have a boring, lazy and relaxing weekend. If you don't feel good, let your Momma know so she can call the vet OK?

Get well soon! Oh and tell your people if they feel like they wanna scream, to come to the chat, we usually have people in there throughout the day and into the evening. We're here to help any way we can.

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Awww Sweet Sampson. I'm glad you're home. Your people have a very, very good attitude. This recovery thing isn't forever, you'll get your zing back soon.

Yeah, dealing with ice and snow after amputation is the worst! One thing that  might help....when you're all relaxed like you are in the pic, let your people trim that fur between your paws. It will give you a lot more traction out there.

We hope you have a boring, lazy and relaxing weekend. If you don't feel good, let your Momma know so she can call the vet OK?

Get well soon! Oh and tell your people if they feel like they wanna scream, to come to the chat, we usually have people in there throughout the day and into the evening. We're here to help any way we can.

 

Thank you, Jerry! We are having a "trimming party" this afternoon, actually :-) All the kitties are having their nails done, and the dogs their toe-poufters!

We love love love our vet--last night, he told me for sure to call him this AM if we needed him, etc. And I was all "oh, we'' be okay!" And I didn't call him...but as sure as shinola, he called us as soon as his shift was over at noon, just to check in. We've had lots of vets over the years, but have been with him for the last 7, and I cannot express how glad I am to have a doctor who really knows us (as people, not just as "clients") and our animals. It means a TON.

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Sounds like you have a great relationship with your vet.  I did too, and it means so very much. I didn't panic often, but on those couple of rare occasions, he always spoke with me and helped us through the crisis.

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Hang in there.  It is hard for the first week and it gets better.  Thank goodness for this blog, it kept us sane

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Updates:

Last night (03.09; 48 hours post-op), we did our first lap around the back yard (well, except we stayed out of the woods/underbrush)! way-cool The snow/ice is bad on the deck and steps, but in the yard, it actually makes a nice side support No slippage on the hills...and a soft landing when we accidentally faceplant. Er, I mean...look underneath the top of the snow for small woodland creatures. laughing

The yard's about an acre, and filled with wet, 12-18-inch deep snow, so it wasn't an easy hop...but Sam seemed to enjoy "patrolling" his territory, despite it being a slow and tiring trip (and chilly, for us humans :D ). And, true to form, he got stubborn on me when I decided it was time to go back in (he was shivering and panting pretty hard). We got in, though. And actually made it up the deck steps w/out taking a digger.

Today (03.10), during his first stretch of "unsupervised time," we had a minor scare when he knocked down the baby gates and decide to go up two flights of stairs while I was in the basement riding my bike. So then he was upstairs, and couldn't/wouldn't come down... and I needed to finish my ride. Eventually, I just locked him in the bedroom, finished my ride, and then when Pat (DH) came home, we sort of helped him down the stairs together. Lesson: Sam is okay going UP. Down is still a problem. I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do tomorrow when I have to go back to work, b/c I know he'll do it again.

Minor victory for the day: this evening, Sam got up and walked into the front hall and got a toy out of the toy box. First time he's initiated any sort of activity on his own. It WAS kind of funny/sad  to watch him try and chew up his cardboard (yes, I know, fabulous toy...cardboard :p) with only one pay instead of two (he normally holds it between his paws). You could see him pushing down with his right leg, and his little stump was moving like he was using his left leg to push it down, too... and then he'd get this look on his face like, "Huh. WTF. This left leg is TOTALLY not doing anything..."

 

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