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New bone cancer diagnosis. Amputation a possibility
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Silver Spring, Maryland
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18 April 2013 - 10:01 am
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tkk81 said
I am soo frustrated with peoples feelings about my possible amp dog.  People give me opinions without me even asking for them, ugh so frustrating.  I am really finding that people dont "get" it. My mother of all people, keeps trying to convince me that I should just do nothing and enhance his quality of life through foods and vitamins.  I dont think she gets how painful it would be for him.  Right now he is taking duramax for pain and is doing quite well on it, running playing jumping.  I wonder if I am not getting it, but from what I read, the disease is fast and painful.  I feel that if I do not act soon on his amp, he will likely need to be put down soon as the meds will not help forever. 

I'm very lucky that my wife is supportive of the path we've chosen for Norah and that the rest of my family, if they have any reservations, has kept their mouths shut on the topic.  Still, there are definitely challenges to owning a tripawd.  

Just the other day we were at the vet to have Norah's staples removed and to talk to the oncologist.  Even some of the other dog owners were staring at Norah (who was rocking her Webmaster harness and Tripawds Rule bandana !) and I could see them staring and some of them muttering "Oh God!" or "That poor thing!"  Even some dog owners don't understand because they haven't been there.  Hopefully they will not ever be in this position, but if they find themselves there, they too will understand.

You have to be secure in your decision and in your relationship with your dog.  Since surgery 18 days ago, Norah's back to her usual self.  We're seeing her go back to habits and behaviors that have been gone since the pain in her leg started.   I do feel the need to explain myself and the decision from time to time, but for the most part the little sweet moments I get to have with Norah again make it easier to deal with other people's lack of understanding.  And, as I hope this thread has proven to you, you have found a great, supportive community right here in this forum!

Sending good vibes your way for the oncologist today.  Keep us informed!

 

Norah is an 8 year old Alaskan Husky. She was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her right hind leg on 3/26/12. She had her amputation on 4/1/13. Chemotherapy (Carboplatin) started on 4/16/13 and she has completed three rounds.

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18 April 2013 - 10:08 am
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I have asked people before if they would euthanize me if I needed a leg amputated. I don't even wait for an answer. Letting it sink in seems more effective than trying to use logic and reason. I understand that family are different, but I still think it's a question that can be asked as long as you don't say it like a smart alec (I am challenged in this area for sure.)

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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18 April 2013 - 10:24 am
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Hehehehe... Kermit seems to totally eat it up when we go out & everyone says "Ooohhh, poor thing, what happened to him"? Or "Awww, is he a rescue?" (I think because he's a pit bull they probably assume he had his leg eaten off in a fight) ;)  All of which Kermit replies to by saying, in his own very clear doggy language, "Yes, I am DOOMED to a life of HORRIBLE MISERY that can ONLY be comforted by your rubbing my tummy!  And scratching my ears! And I MIGHT survive just a BIT longer if you give me one of those cookies in that bag there... maybe TWO cookies.  Two cookies would help a lot." "And a new toy, can we go over to the toys?  If you throw my ball I'll feel better, go ahead, you KNOW you want to help poor little ol' me!" laughinglaughinglaughing

It's all in your perspective, I guess. :)

 

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Sandee just had her sutures out and her first chemo treatment Monday. We have no regrets, no second thoughts. There's just no room or time for that as each day she's feeling better and happier, and like others have said, we're closer than ever.

 

I hope all went very well at your appointment today. Beaming prayers and positive energies your way.

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18 April 2013 - 9:14 pm
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Well, I don't even know what to say. Today was...odd. I went to the oncologist and the first thing she said was that he had a lesion on his leg. When I asked if it was for sure a cancerous tumour she said he was pretty sure it was but the only way to confirm is to do a biopsy. A biopsy would cost about 1100. So she said that if I was going to remove the leg a biopsy would be pointless. To treat it as if it is OSA would be extremely costly, 2600 for chemo and 4600 for the amp!!! I was taken aback by this extremely high cost, which brought me down quite a bit cuz I can never afford this kind of money.

I got the feeling that there was an element if doubt in her mind that it really is OSA A) because they figure this started in November and Congo is still prancing around as if he has no pain in his leg. And B) there is no mets to the lungs yet. I felt very overwhelmed with this visit and the information and cost.

While they did some blood tests, I had an epiphany, I called my American neighbours! This very nice vet called me back to give me a quote for an amp and he started asking questions. He felt that something was not right regarding his pain. He felt that if Congo had OSA for so long he would be in pain. And the fact that he is on duramax "wouldn't touch the pain of OSA". He didn't think it is possible for Congo to be on duramax and going on with regular activities like running full speed, jumping and sitting on his hind legs for treats. So with this being said I'm sending the X-rays to him tomorrow and will book Congo in for a biopsy next week. The doc said that its better to do a biopsy to be sure. Because some bone cancers respond better to radiation and amputation and chemo may not be a necessity. The cost for me to do the biipsy across the line...300!!! The amp, 1100. Can this be possible?

So I am asking my American friends, is there a website in which I can read reviews of veterinarians?

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18 April 2013 - 9:25 pm
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Tanya, can you come to chat now? We can help you.

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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18 April 2013 - 9:48 pm
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Tanya I see you're in the chat, I'm so glad. Real quick; I've noticed that costs in Canada are significantly higher. For an example of what people have paid for amp and chemo, this post may help

"Costs of Amputation and Chemotherapy: What Did You Pay?"

Hang in there. This is one of the scariest and most overwhelming times but we will help you get through it.

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Virginia



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18 April 2013 - 10:07 pm
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Wow! Talk about confusing! Really glad you were able to talk to the other vet.. certainly what he was saying about not showing any real pain makes you wonder exactly what's going on.

Usually.........and I'm in no way a vet......the surgeons have a really good idea from looking at an xray if i's osteo......usually.. not always.

I know bone biopsies can be a difficult "surgery" on it's own and a lot of vets don't do it if they're fairly certain from stay, behavior, etc. Really keeping my paws crossed for you that maybe it's not osteo..

Keep positive thoughts and co to UE to stay strong because you are!!

Really hopeful for a good outcome for you, Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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19 April 2013 - 7:10 am
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I'm sorry I missed you in chat last night.  I'm SO glad you thought to call another vet and get another opinion.  Are you getting the biopsy done in the US or BC?

In Jackson's onco practice, there's a large yellow lab, 4 legs, that has been undergoing treatment for OSA for well over a year.  He's a big guy and very happy and limps a little.  Yes, you can see the tumor on his rear ankle.  He's been on IV chemo, metronomics , radiation, and pain killers this entire time.  As I understand from his pawrents, the tumor hasn't really grown and his pain is very well managed.  It's great to see him getting around!  That said...they make very frequent trips to the onco for his care, namely radiation.  So yes, they've saved the limb and maintained his mobility, but I'm sure they have paid waaaaaaaay more than what we've done for Jackson and his three limbs.

This is my way of encouraging you to get costs for long term care.  We want all our pups to live for YEARS.  Well, if that happens, what may the cost of radiation be?  Assuming it's OSA, of course.  Maybe the lesion indicates another kind of cancer?

I'm looking forward to additional posts, as you're right in the middle of it!  Best wishes!  I'm SO SO glad you called around...good thinkin', Lincoln!

~Katy

ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12.  Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ!  No side effects.  We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments.  He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors!  Our love. Our funny little guy!

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19 April 2013 - 9:56 am
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That said...they make very frequent trips to the onco for his care, namely radiation.  So yes, they've saved the limb and maintained his mobility, but I'm sure they have paid waaaaaaaay more than what we've done for Jackson and his three limbs.

We've seen that happen here before Katy. Not that we would ever push anyone into amputation when they're not comfortable with it, but we have seen people who spent a lot of money to save the affected leg only to have it amputated later on, doubling the costs. So that's definitely something to consider, you present some great questions to ask.

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19 April 2013 - 10:43 am
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I will happily pay the amputation fee if its meant to go that way. But it just seems that nobody is really sure. I wish I could show you all the X-rays. Waiting for dr Pam to call me!

Virginia



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This darn stuff is sooooooo frustrating and certainly isn't a black and white issue!! As hard as it is........so hard....... remember B R E A T H E. and spend lots of time looking into Congo's beautiful eyes nd hug, hug, hug:-) :-)

You are doing such a good job researching and finding the best solution for Congo.......patience is a virtue that's pretty forgeign to most of us on this site when it comes to our dog's well being!! You are a great advocate for Congo.....you are not alone and you will have a plan developed shortly that is best for Congo. You really will!

Sending you a little dose of peace and eremity straight I to your "being" right now! Now try that B R E A T H I. N G thing again and see if it works:-) :-)

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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20 April 2013 - 3:39 pm
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Hey Tanya did you get to meet with Dr. Pam today?

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