Did you know that Hong Kong pet parents are some of the most devoted dog and cat guardians anywhere on the planet? We didn’t, until we chatted with Dr. Alane Kosanovich Cahalane, the first board-certified veterinary specialist in small animal surgery to practice in that beautiful country.
Today on Tripawd Talk Radio, she gives insight into her clients’ exceptional love and care of their beloved dogs and cats — and what Hong Kong pet parents can teach the rest of us about furry family members.
Donât Miss Part 1 of our interview with Dr. Cahalane,
How We Can Help Our Tripawds Get Great Vet Care
Tripawds Global Support Starts with All of Us
Tripawds members arrive here from all around the world seeking guidance and support. To better serve in their time of need, it helps to have a better understanding of veterinary care around the globe. As we mentioned when we interviewed New Zealand veterinarian Dr. Alex Avery, our goal in this blog is to share more international perspectives from veterinarians and pet parents alike.
In this special two-part Tripawd Talk Radio segment, we learn why Hong Kong pet parents are some of the most devoted anywhere in the world. Our tour guide is Dr. Alane K. Cahalane, DVM, BSc, MA, DVM, DACVS, of Veterinary Specialty Hospital of Hong Kong.
In part 1 of our 15-minute interview, you’ll learn about:
- How Hong Kong pet parents view the role of dogs, cats and other pets in the household
- Their feelings about amputation and special-needs, handicapped pets
- How pet parenting in Hong Kong differs from those of us in the west
- And most importantly, what we can learn from Hong Kong pet parenting styles
What Hong Kong Residents Can Teach Us about Pet Parenting
Catch every detail of our interview with Dr. Cahalane in the full transcript below.
Jim: This is a first of a 2-part series with our guest who is calling in from the farthest point of any interview we have ever produced here at Tripawds. Dr. Alane Kosanovich Cahalane is the first board-certified specialist in small animal surgery to practice in Hong Kong at Veterinary Specialty Hospital of Hong Kong. She specializes in orthopedic, neurologic, cancer treatment, and soft tissue surgeries in companion animals.
Prior to practicing in Hong Kong, Dr. Cahalane spends several years in a busy specialty referral practice in the United States. She has witnessed some rather interesting details about pet parenting in Hong Kong which differ a bit from the way those of us in the West view and treat our dogs and cats.
We will discover what we can learn from the relationships her clients have with their pets and donât miss part 2 of our discussion where we will learn about the NotOneMoreVet campaign and why that is so important to all pet parents and anyone working in the veterinary industry.
We clearly have a lot to cover so letâs get started. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Cahalane.
Dr. Cahalane: Thank you for having me. Iâm happy to be here.
RenĂ©: Hi, Dr. Cahalane. This is RenĂ© and I am thrilled that weâre talking to you. After I saw your Instagram post, I was like, âWow! We have to have her on Tripawd Talk.â So thank you.
Dr. Cahalane: Oh, Iâm very happy to join you. And thanks for checking me out on Instagram. I follow you guys too and Iâm always happy to see the things that youâre posting as well.
René: Oh, thank you. And just for our listeners, what is your Instagram handle so they can follow along with you?
Dr. Cahalane: Itâs @dogcatsurgn. I think the other one was taken at the time. So @dogcatsurgn is generally how to find me on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter, all the rest of that kind of stuff. Itâs easy thing to remember.
RenĂ©: It is. It is. And we will be sure to put that link in our podcast episode blog post. So youâre all the way in Hong Kong and this is really exciting for us because at Tripawds, we are trying to get out of our North American bubble and really explore how the veterinary community is in other parts of the world. So recently, we had a vet too who is from New Zealand. And now, you are our next international vet but youâre really â youâre from the States. Youâre just practicing there, correct?
Dr. Cahalane: Thatâs correct. I am American. I grew up in Canada so I â and now Iâve lived in Hong Kong just about longer than I have lived anywhere else at one good stretch of time. So, Iâm from a bit of everywhere.
RenĂ©: Wow! Thatâs exciting. You are truly international. So what drew you to Hong Kong other than the wonderful title of being the first board-certified specialist there in surgery? What about Hong Kong made you want to go practice?
Dr. Cahalane: Itâs funny. At the time when I first moved here, Asia wasnât really on my radar. I had travelled a good bit to Europe and Africa and I did like to travel a lot. I had two very young kids. My daughter was two years old. My son was 12 weeks old when we moved here. My husband had a lot of flexibility in his career.
So it wasnât really Hong Kong that drew me so much as the opportunity as a specialist to start something or to be part of the start of something, I have to start it myself, but to be part of the advancement of our profession in a certain part of the world. So I came here to be a specialist, to train other people to become specialist or to become better surgeons and then everything just sort of taken off from there.
RenĂ©: Wow! That is really, really cool that you would take that leap and with your young children and everything and here you are and youâre in the middle of this movement to improve veterinary care in Hong Kong. How does the community view your specialty? Are the general practitioner vets over there, are they willing to give themselves? Is it easy to get clients or do you really have to work to get the word out that your practice exist?
Dr. Cahalane: Well, I think yeah, thatâs a great question. I imagine what New York must have been like before the EMT showed up or before specialists showed up even. And the veterinarians in Hong Kong here are spectacular. I mean they didnât â theyâve learned â theyâre well-trained and theyâve learned to do so much on their own that theyâre sort of â they do everything. They do everything from ultrasound to nail trim to advanced surgery.
Dr. Cahalane: And so as specialists, weâre very focused. And I think thatâs just the big difference. So the population here of veterinarians, the market was really great and there are tons of pets and a lot of great vets but the specialist aspect just kind of elevate the game a bit and it takes the profession up a notch for those things that the general practitioners arenât comfortable with or maybe havenât seen before. Now, we have a whole team of specialists in Hong Kong that can help them with that.
So theyâve really sort of caught on to what referral means that weâre not competing for the same cases. Weâre here to complement each other and to provide the best care that we can for each pet.
RenĂ©: And how about the pet parents in your city? How â well first, letâs back up a little bit. How do they view the role of their pets in the household because I think that determines like how willing they are to go the extra mile to see a specialist? So what is your understanding of how they have their pets?
Dr. Cahalane: Itâs really incredible. When I was a kid, we had a dog and the dog was just kind of our family dog. It was different than my sister and I. It wasnât one of our â one of the family children. And then I think things have evolved in North America that pets are viewed a little more as family members now.
And in Hong Kong, itâs like that dog in the yard phase never really existed. And so there are a lot of first-time pet owners. But instead of that dog being, âOh, itâs just a family dog,â thatâs their family. Thatâs their child. So theyâve skipped over that whole sort of era of pet ownership and theyâve sort of dived right into pet parenting.
And itâs an amazing difference to see because they would not necessarily have the experience of say, âOK, I know I need to have a family that takes care of my pet through its whole entire life,â and they may not have those basics down but all they know is that they want the absolute best that they can find for their family member which happens to have four or three legs.
RenĂ©: Wow! Thatâs really cool because I grew up the same way. The dog was the dog and he was an outside dog. He wasnât even allowed to be in the house. And boy! In my lifetime, things have changed. But we had to go through that learning phase and our animals suffered because of it. So Iâm really happy to hear that the dogs and cats and other pets there are having such great care during their lifetime.
Dr. Cahalane: Itâs really incredible and itâs almost unexpected in a way because…
I think people think about Asia and theyâre unsure about how pets are really kept here. But no, they have â most pet owners have completely bypassed the dog in the yard. And now, theyâre in booties and crams and in being pushed around in strollers and stuff. So itâs pretty incredible to be a part of.
RenĂ©: And Iâm just curious but is there a common size of dogs that you see there? Do they go with old breeds or are they more partial to smaller ones orâŠ?
Dr. Cahalane: Certainly more partial to smaller dogs I think. There are a lot of people in a very small space here in Hong Kong. And so to have a big dog, you need to have more room. And a lot of people have smaller pets. Poodles are very popular here, Toy Poodles, Schnauzers, and Pekingese, itâs a little kind of pugs, a little that sort of size is most popular. But I see everything from kittens to Bernese Mountain Dogs here.
RenĂ©: Now, when it comes to special needs and handicapped pets, what are their feelings about that? I mean I donât know. Do you do amputations there? Do you deal with those situations a lot?
Dr. Cahalane: I do. Now again, I think that general practitioners here who a lot of them will do amputation if thatâs what is indicated and what needs to be done. Theyâre not necessarily referring to me for that. As a specialist, I do tend to see the people who are more interested in limb spare. But I am the first person to recommend amputation when I think itâs indicated.
And I think thereâs â again, with the new pet parent population, there is a whole discussion or even culture that theyâve missed out on which is, dogs and cats have great lives when they have only three legs. And so, there is an education that needs to take place here and it is taking place here that itâs OK to do that when itâs whatâs best for that pet.
René: Now, what would be the viewpoint, the average viewpoint of a pet parent there when it comes to a handicapped pet? I mean are they accepting when it does happen or �
Dr. Cahalane: I think that what â I have had clients come in to me and asked about wheelchairs for their dogs when a dog just had a cruciate rupture.
They are absolutely willing put their pets on wheels. And so sometimes I have to step back and say, âOK, we donât really need to â we donât need â we can do some other stuff and try to make the legs work a bit better.â So they are â a lot of people are ready to put their pets in wheels or with prosthetics and things.
But I think that they see amputation has almost â instead of looking at it as a way to relieve pain, they see it as giving up, âWell, I will only amputate if I have to give up.â And so thatâs kind of what Iâm trying to change when I talk to clients and say, âItâs really not giving up. Itâs a treatment and itâs not a bad thing to do.â And a cart might help a pet get around. But what weâre trying to do most of the time with amputation is alleviate pain. And so, thatâs a big discussion that I have to have pretty frequently here when I see patients where amputation is indicated.
RenĂ©: Yeah. That is interesting because we get some of that here but when a veterinarian presents amputation, of course, itâs the last thing anyone wants to hear. But when it comes to hearing the message that it can alleviate pain, I mean I think more people are willing to say, âOK, weâll do it.â So weâll try to help you out in that area for sure.
Yeah. So what about pet parenting in general? How does it differ from us other than OK, the pets are family members but do they go everywhere with them? Are there pet-sitters on every corner? I mean how integrated into society are they? Do they get to eat in restaurants, that kind of thing?
Dr. Cahalane: Lots of pets eating in restaurants. Yeah. I live in a small fishing village kind of thing, about 30 minutes outside the city. And on the weekends, all you see are people with their dogs and the dogs are sitting at the table in outside restaurants and really going on walks and a huge dog culture in the little town that I live in, just outside Hong Kong. Yeah, itâs great. Itâs great.
I think that the other way that pet parenting differs here is in the way that they care for geriatric pets or sort of their elderly. They will just go to no end. They will carry around oxygen tanks for their dogs in heart failure. Yeah. So itâs really pretty amazing to see the long-term care that people are committed to here.
And of course, itâs like that in the States too. I know that there are lots of people who go to every end to care for their geriatric pet. But it is really astonishing here what levels people will go to.
RenĂ©: Yeah, especially when it comes to end of life. Itâs interesting that you mentioned that because one of the few members that weâve had from Asia, when her dog passed away from cancer, she had what I would call a wake I guess. It was a service. Is that a common thing there?
Dr. Cahalane: It is. It is.
And they â a lot of people like to be present for cremation, which was new to me that they want to be sure that itâs their pet thatâs being cremated and that those ashes that they are getting back. And they really do have services and entire families will come for euthanasia when that does happen like cousin, not just the members of the immediate family but neighbors and friends and aunts.
And so itâs really a big family that comes together like we would for our human family members. Itâs really something else. Itâs very special.
RenĂ©: Wow! I would say that for the most part, what youâre describing is a culture that is a little bit more advanced than the majority of us here in the US. I mean I know that for senior animals, a lot of people are like, âWell, itâs time to let them go,â and that kind of thing. And I just think it sounds a lot easier for a pet parent when theyâre wrestling with these end of life situations. Thatâs really cool.
And weâre going to my last question for this segment. What would you say is the number thing that we in the States, and even our members in the UK and other Western countries, what can we â whatâs the number one thing that you would say we can learn from?
Dr. Cahalane: I can tell you the number one thing that Iâve learned from them, and that is . . .
as long as we keep a petâs best interest in mind always, that itâs OK to try even when the odds arenât that great.
I guess what I mean is I used to be a very conservative surgeon and I would be very honest with people about the odds of success if we go to surgery, the odds of a pet surviving something. And what I believe those odds to be based on science and the literature and what I knew from my training. And the client here pushed me to try more things where I might have said, âOK. Itâs time to euthanize.â
In my past life and I am more often than not amazed at the outcome that we can achieve when people are willing to really go the distance and let you do everything that you would do as if you were treating a human. But again, remembering to always keep that petâs best interest in mind. Itâs important to not go I guess too far. But I am amazed that the successes that Iâve been able to have with my team on board and with pet families on board trying to give us more time and more quality time with their pets. It has really been an amazing experience and a transformation as a surgeon.
RenĂ©: Oh, I bet. And in your TED talk which we will discuss next but you do mentioned it, those cases, and I was just blown away by your stories that you talked about there and going the extra mile and having a great success. So weâre going to talk about that next. And I hope everybody will stay tuned.
Dr. Cahalane: Thank you so much. I hope so too.
Jim: Yes, thank you for your time Dr. Cahalane. This has been fascinating. Listeners can learn more about your work in Hong Kong at VSH.com.hk. And I canât wait to share with them what youâre doing to raise awareness about the Not One More Vet campaign. Please tune in to part 2 of this talk where we will discuss the alarming suicide rate among veterinarians and what we as pet parents can do about it.
Until next time, pet parents facing amputation for their cats and dogs can find support and many free resources at Tripawds.com.
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Donât Miss Part 1 of our interview with Dr. Cahalane,
How We Can Help Our Tripawds Get Great Vet Care
This is such a fascinating interview! Thanks for Sharing. rhis woth us. And thanks to Dr Cahalane for all she is doing to raise awareness in her profession.
The questions proposed brought out so much insight. Good job!!!!
I love the way they embrace their dogs as family members without hesitation and without apology, jncluding how they handle their “funeral”, as well as overseeing their cremations. And having dogs enjoy their dining experience with their humans in restaurants, sweet!!!
Looking forward to the next installment.
Gratefully,
Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!
That’s really interesting, thanks! It is actually so good to hear other positive stories from around the world and not just the horror stories of countries where animal neglect and abuse is still the norm. I also always find it hugely fascinating how not just the way we treat and see our pets differ from country to country but also how veterinary norms and treatments differ.
thanks
tina
I’m glad you enjoyed it Tina! Global members like you are the inspawration behind getting more perspectives from non-US vets. Perhaps it’s time for us to talk to a Germany-based vet? If you have one you think would make a good guest on the show, please let us know.