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I'm sorry about the crappy diagnosis, cancer does indeed suck in every way, shape and form.
The good thing is that Tilghman has no idea- he is just happy to be back with his pack. I thought Maggie's amp would be curative too, but she had cancerous mast cells in her lymph node. She never cared, she only wanted her food on time and her spot on my lap. Mag far outlived her prognosis- there is always hope.
Karen and Spirit Maggie
Yep! So happy Tilghman is home and surrounded by those who will cater to his every demand! Now is the time for him to recover from major surgery and figure out this hopping business. The test results are important, but one thing at a time. Just relax, right now, and try to enjoy the fact that he's home and happy and hopping!
Shari
From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.
Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/
Tilghman looks good! I'm glad your boy is back home where he belongs. I'm sorry to hear about the diagnosis. But like Shari said, just take one thing at a time. Don't look too far in the future, just concentrate on right now. That's what your boy is doing, follow his lead and he'll show you how it's done!
Tilghman, you have a face that makes our hearts melt, you are so sweet!
I hope that you had a good weekend at home relaxing with your peeps. Any poos yet?
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What a cutie!!!! He looks like he's loving being back home with his pack Have a great recovery!!!
ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12. Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ! No side effects. We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments. He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors! Our love. Our funny little guy!
So sorry about the crappy diagnosis. But Tilghman doesn't know or care. Make the most of every precious day the amp has given you together. You will find yourself more in love with him every day.
Karen and Spirit Magnum
Magnum: 30th May 2002 to 5th May 2012. Lost her back left leg to osteosarcoma on 5th Sep 2011. Lung mets found on 20th Mar 2012 but it was bone mets in the hip that ended her brave battle. Magnum's motto - "Dream as if you'll live for ever, live as if you'll die today" (James Dean). Loyal, loving, courageous and spirited to the end. My beloved heart dog, see her memoirs from Rainbow Bridge ...... http://princess.....pawds.com/
WOW! Y'all don't lie. This is hard.
Tilghman is largely just laying around. he does not show much interest in going potty. He was SO much more active when we first saw him at Auburn before taking him home!
If we coerce him, he'll go outside- and pee and poo (poo once a day). Fortunately he's still eating or I'd be really beside myself. Gave him his last dose of Tremadol this morning and now just have him on Rimadyl (we picked up more). Thinking about adding that Gabapentin. Rationally, I know the real Tilghman will return one day. Irrationally, I worry he will be like this forever! He is still so cute and sweet- just very sleepy and doesn't really want to move. I KNOW that is exactly how he's supposed to be... it's just harder to see than I had thought.
Also, we've had several instances of phantom pain , I believe (hence the Gabapentin above). When the other dogs leap up to greet one of us coming home or start to bark at a dog outside, he gets startled almost and lets out the most horrendous series of shrieks. It's right before he stands up. I'm guessing he's trying to get the leg into action... ?
I'm sorry. Just sad tonight and want to make him all better and I can't.
So questions- we are starting to ice. Very light massage and rubs on him. Anything else? Do we coerce him to go potty outside or just let him lay until he decides he wants to go? He always pees a lot when he goes outside so I feel badly just leaving him. On the positive side, when he wants to hop, he hops like a champ!
What a handsome boy-he looks good! I know what you mean about that shrieking; we would all come running! I was so glad when that stopped (about 2 weeks). We just took Lily out every 4 or 5 hours to see if she wanted to go. You're doing fine-during a stressful time.
Thinking of you,
Joan and Lily
Our beautiful Lily was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her front leg on 12/14/11 at age 8 and had amp on 12/16/11. She completed 5 rounds of carbo. She was so brave and kicked cancer's butt daily! She lived life fully for 4 years, 3 months, and 15 days after her amp. My angel is a warrior princess. I miss her so much.
Emmie, you can ask your vet about keeping Tilghman on the Tramadol. Most dogs here are on it for 7-14 days, along with an NSAID like Rimadyl. This is serious pain. It is possible that his reluctance to move much is because it hurts. Of course, it is also likely that at least part of that reluctance comes from being zonked, exhausted, confused.
Most dogs seem to do a bit of a tank on about day 3, for a couple of days. The meds that were given for surgery take a couple of days to metabolize out of their bodies, so when they come home they are high as a kite and can fly like one, too. They can do anything! Then the meds work out and they are left with the oral meds, and then they hurt a little more or become less "high." What you're seeing does not sound abnormal but actually very typical.
I think it might still be a good idea to keep him on Tramadol for at least a week, but your vet may tell you differently. I just know that if you sawed through my bone I'd want to go to sleep and wake up a few months later.
Ice: Lots of people do it and the dogs seem to benefit it they'll let you. Some dogs self-ice in the snow. My dog did. Just be careful of frostbite if they get down and can't get back up.
Massages: I did not do massage until stitches were out and oozing had stopped. Then I mostly massaged Dakota's neck because of how hard it was for him to hop early on. Necks are hard on front amps.
Pottying: I encouraged Dakota to go out a 2 or 3 times a day. He always had a bladder the size of a minivan and could pee for 15 minutes if I'd let him. However, the combination of being prone, inactive and stressed can sometimes lead to urinary tract infections. Therefore, I forced the issue. Not as much as I wanted, but more than he did. It will also help his blood to circulate if he moves a little. I'm not talking about going for walks around the house. I mean hop 10 feet outside to pee and then back in, 2-3 times a day. And some dogs take this opportunity to lay down and relax and check out the world, depending on the weather. Squirrels can't be chased but they can be watched closely. Dinner can be smelled on the breeze. If it's decent outside, you can put down a blanket or towel and let him have a change of scenery and see if he perks up.
It is hard, yes, but you're right that you'll have him back. He may not be entirely the same, but he'll be better!
Shari
From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.
Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/
I'm sorry to hear your pup is really yanking on your heartstrings right now. It all makes sense, though! Dakota Dawg had some really good thoughts and ideas. I'll second the one about Tramadol. Jackson was on it for about a 1.5 weeks post-op. I'm thankful for it. We never went on gabapentin. He's still on rimadyl (which is now part of his cancer treatment and less about pain management ). We tried to ice, but he hated it and would escape us. So we decided to leave him puffy and reclined rather than moving about the house. It's great yours lets you! Keep it up. He, too, had at least a solid week where he just wanted to sleep. His eyes told me he wanted to change scenery, so I hoisted him onto the couch a couple of times. There, he passed out for hours. I think he got a lot of relief from the couch's back pillows. His wound never leaked, so we didn't have to worry about ooze on the couch. About phantom pain , I read here that you can put ice or warmth on the stump when they are experiencing it - it'll give the nerves something to focus on! He could also be shrieking b/c there are a whole boatload of new feelings, nerves, muscles that his mind can't figure out. I think for us, we'd be like "what the frick is happening?! AHHHHH!" but in dog = shrieky whines. As for bathroom breaks, it's great for them to get up and move a little. It'll move blood around. It'll slowly build his confidence that he can do this! It'll teach him all the new sensations involved in getting up and moving about. We encouraged Jackson to go potty 3-4x a day. I probably refilled his water with fresh, cool water 3x a day, just to keep him hydrated (he's got a mild obsession with cool, fresh water, so this was a good way for me to make sure he wanted it!). As for hopping, I made a post on here about Jackson's speed. During his 2 week post-op, he was darn fast! Since then, he's slowed down some. I think initially it was all about momentum, but now that he's building muscle, he's learning to use his single rear leg a bit better. It's also possible before he was too drugged to really know or control his pace.
Smile and hug your sleepy buddy! He's doing great. I know he's getting loads of hugs and praises. It's a haul with lots of ups and downs. You'll both get through it and you'll be amazed reading this post 3 weeks from now. Belly rubs!
ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12. Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ! No side effects. We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments. He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors! Our love. Our funny little guy!
Thank you both so much! Today is actually his 1 week ampuversary, so we're farther along (he just stayed at the vet for a while recouperating). We did run out of Tremadol- but he was on it for a week-- so I hope that is long enough? How do you know when they're in severe pain- as in- needs more Tremadol? At this point, I'm hoping the Rimadyl works.
Sorry for being so high maintenance. I just want to fix the situation and it seems we can't....
I DID take him outside Sunday though. We figured out a way to carry his nest outside and then carry him back inside. that helps reduce some of the coersion to get him outdoors.
Nice setup, buddy! You're on your bed, in the sun, with the fresh air and new view. Sounds ideal!
I guess the only way to know if he needs more meds, is, well, you know. You know your pup better than anyone. Does he seem like he needs it? There's no harm in getting more (and having it on hand) and giving him one when things seem bad. If it helps, great! If not, then I guess he's OK.
He's soooo sweet!!! Happy 1 week!!!
ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12. Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ! No side effects. We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments. He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors! Our love. Our funny little guy!
Emmie, if a dog is in pain, they pant a lot. A lot. And they do it for no apparent reason. Short, fast, shallow pants. They can also whine and tremble, but by the time they're trembling they're really hurting. So if he is moving around ok (getting up on his own, hopping, going down a couple of steps) without any of that and without yelping, he's likely just fine.
If Tilghman comes inside after peeing, hops 50 feet into the house and lays down and then pants, that's exertion. Dogs in pain won't sleep, either (at least that's my experience). They sit up and pant. They don't lay on their side and they don't lay their heads down in front. They sit up and pant.
Ironically, too much pain medication looks almost identical. Makes it a real bear to get the dosage right sometimes. But since Tilghman is off of the Tramadol, you would know he was hurting if he started any of that.
He looks really good sitting in the sunshine. It's distracting, it's warming, it's comforting, it's healing. And sometimes it even makes you tired so you sleep. I don't know where you live and if you will have more nice days like this before spring, but Tilghman obviously appreciates being outside!
Shari
From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.
Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/
P.S. You said you carried Tilghman back inside. You don't have to carry him everywhere now. He can do a good bit, but he will get away with what he can. Chariots and personal slaves are always appreciated! He shouldn't be doing more than a few stairs, but he should be able to get himself up and to the door and hop about a bit. He'll need to rest, for sure, but he will let you haul him around as long as you're willing. I'm just warnin' ya!
Shari
From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.
Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/
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