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Just an update.  Zeus is still with us and seems to still be happy, so we are just enjoying our time.  I can see that his belly is growing and I notice that he lays differently now with one leg kicked out behind him, so I guess it is becoming uncomfortable to have pressure on the abdomen.  He rests alot, but his eyes are still bright, he hops up and wags his tail when it is time to walk and for now he is still able to make it outside on his own although we do occasionally carry him farther out into the yard just for a change of scenery.  Dr. R seemed to think that our sign of the end would be failing appetite, but I just don't think that is going to happen with this dog.  He is SO food motivated and still eating like a horse.

So for now we are still just watching closely.

Zeus was a Husky mix diagnosed with Osteosarcoma at age 11.  A visible lung met and suspicious spot on his liver meant a poor prognosis-six weeks was our vet's best guess. We decided to fight for our boy and his right front leg was amputated on 12/1/11. We did six rounds of chemo, changed his diet and spoiled him completely rotten. We were blessed with 10 great months after diagnosis. Against the odds, the lung met remained a single met and grew very little over those months. A wonderful furbaby with the most gentle spirit, he fought with a strength that we never imagined he possessed. We have no regrets...
http://zeuspod......pawds.com/

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13 August 2012 - 8:31 am
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I am so very happy to hear Zeus is having good days.  This part of the illness is very difficult.  Many of us on these forums have already been where you are now, and know just what you're going through and how hard it is.  You are absolutely right to enjoy each day as it comes.  That's what Zeus does, that's what all of our dogs do.  Tell your boy he's got an awful lot of people thinking about him, and wishing him well!  Please give your boy a kiss from me!

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13 August 2012 - 8:56 am
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Lisa, thanks for the update. I had been checking in several times over the weekend, not knowing what I might find. Zeus does indeed have a mighty big fan club.

Living in the moment is so un-human, isn't it? We have such difficulty not thinking about what lies ahead. I know I am always full of "yes-but"s that keep me from enjoying what's happening right in front of me. Life is right there, and I can miss it because I'm all knotted up. Zeus is keeping you grounded. He's leading. Good for him! If I were there, I'd give him a big snuggle. And a cookie.

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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Hey it's good to hear from you, we are always thinking of you and Zeus, and sending our love. Thank you for keeping us updated, it makes us smile knowing that you are still loving life each and every day. 

Paws up to you Zeus, you are really an amazing pup! A Tripawd hero for sure.

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13 August 2012 - 9:23 am
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Thanks guys.  I haven't updated much since the status quo hasn't really changed much, but I don't want anyone to think that I'm not posting due to bad reasons, either.

We have lost two babies in the past (one to liver disease and one to cancer) and both times they got very very sick and quit eating, which led to them being miserable and eventually the body gave up and "the time" came.  It was pretty clear to us that they were soooo weak and we could tell in their eyes when their spirit was done.

I'm a little thrown off with this progression, though, because I truly don't think Zeus will ever quit eating.  I'm guessing that his body, even with nourishment, will eventually quit and he will lose the ability to stand/go out, etc?  I'm really concerned b/c the belly is growing and really looks bloated, but he still seems to have the sheer will to keep going.  I know this is a terrible question to ask (and a sensitive one, too), but can anyone else tell me if they have experienced this?

Zeus was a Husky mix diagnosed with Osteosarcoma at age 11.  A visible lung met and suspicious spot on his liver meant a poor prognosis-six weeks was our vet's best guess. We decided to fight for our boy and his right front leg was amputated on 12/1/11. We did six rounds of chemo, changed his diet and spoiled him completely rotten. We were blessed with 10 great months after diagnosis. Against the odds, the lung met remained a single met and grew very little over those months. A wonderful furbaby with the most gentle spirit, he fought with a strength that we never imagined he possessed. We have no regrets...
http://zeuspod......pawds.com/

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13 August 2012 - 9:34 am
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I am still picturing Zeus with yellow frosting on his snout!

These days are so priceless, it is hard to explain to someone who hasn't been there.  It is sometimes hard for us two leggers to appreciate the moments- but our 3 (or 4) leggers show us how.  There is joy in bright eyes, a tail wag, and a licked clean bowl.  Nothing else really matters for now.

Have a happy day!

 

Karen and Spirit Maggie

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We are so happy to hear this news as we too keep checking to see if there is any news. Glad to see Zeus is still smiling and making you guys smile.  As for your question, we have lost a few pups but all in the same direction you described with yours so I don't have any advice.  As you know an appetite can change oh so quick, but enjoy Zeus cuz it hasn't changed. We love you Zeus and Lisa we send big hugs and love your way.

 

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Suzie and Rizzo

Jack Russell born in 2001. Mast cell cancer found Dec 2009 and right rear amputation. Five rounds of chemo done before all treatment stopped. Living life to the fullest!! Read my story at http://rizzo.tripawds.com

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13 August 2012 - 10:23 am
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Lisa, thanks for the update.  I too come on a couple of times a day just looking for any updates on Zeus.  I'm happy that he still has his appetite and seems to be relatively comfortable.  Every day becomes a gift.  Lots of hugs from Kathy & Harley. 

Harley is an 8 year old Golden Retriever. Amp surgery for an infiltrative lipoma canceled due to two masses in chest. A rescue, he found his forever home on 3/18/07 and left for his eternal home on 1/09/13. His story and medical history are at http://myharley.....pawds.com/

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13 August 2012 - 11:21 am
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Lisa,

I was watching for pain in Maggie- she had a melanoma tumor on her upper jaw that I couldn't treat.  I knew when it started causing pain that I had to medicate for we would be at the end.  I was not able to use food as gauge- Mag had kidney failure  and had to be syringe feed for much of her last 3 months.  It was very clear when we reached the end- Mag let me know.

As far as experience- do you mean mets in the abdominal area?  I would ask your vet if the tumor could rupture and if so what would Zeus experience. That may make things clearer for you.

When Maggie was diagnosed with the melanoma tumor I defined what her minimum life quality would be.  Pain was a big one for her because she did not handle pain meds well, and her kidneys and liver were already compromised.  She was still getting around just fine, didn't need help.  Aside from being very thin (from the kidney issues) you couldn't really tell she was so sick. But the last two days and nights, especially the last night and day, there was just not enough quality time. And she was starting to really fight taking her meds and the sub-Q fluids we had to do every other day. Something my vet said helped make things clearer 'there comes a time when the treatment is worse than the disease'.

I hope that what was what you were asking about.  It is sensitive- but it should be discussed.

 

Karen and Spirit Maggie

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Lisa, I only experienced something similar with one of our dogs, a rottie mix named Zoot. She was a great eater but as she declined, she simply wasn't able to process her food any longer. I think her body's need for food quit, so her appetite declined, along with her ability to metabolize and digest. If Zeus is digesting, then the food is going to places that it's needed. It sounds like you will be guided to some degree by that. Of course, if he begins to experience pain that can't be managed, then no amount of appetite in the world will matter. I know how important that is to you. Pain trumps everything, I think.

(Nothing to do with dogs, but years ago my son had a pet rat that developed a large mammary tumor. We took her to the vet and he said as long as she was eating and playing and had her personality, she would not be considered to be in pain. The tumor grew and we returned to the vet. He advised that the size of the tumor indicated it would soon break the skin because it was beginning to drag on the floor. The vet said her immune system would be suppressed enough that an open wound would become infected and she would be unable to handle it. We enjoyed her company for another couple of weeks, until the skin integrity was about done. Does that help?)

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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13 August 2012 - 12:43 pm
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You don't have to worry about sensitive questions here, nothing is off the table. Whatever can make your journey easier is why we're here.

Like Karen, I encourage you to set benchmarks for measuring his quality of life. Dogs are so stoic, and will do whatever it takes to hide their pain. Many, no matter how sick they are, will wag their tails and hop until their very last breath (including yours truly). It's an enormous responsibility, and a heartbreaking one, to have to make the decision to set their spirit free, but if you can do it before things get bad, you won't be left with a lot of guilt about waiting too long. 

I honestly don't know how the tumor scenario might play out, I know other can do a better job sharing their experiences. But what I do know is that eventually, it will become too painful to deal with. You'll need to watch for signs that Zeus is hurting (something other than lack of appetite), to know when "it's time." Think about other things he loves to do, and study this quality of life scale that we talk about in "So Easy to Love, So Hard to Lose."

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13 August 2012 - 1:06 pm
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I'm glad to hear he is still bright-eyed, happy and smiling! That is very good news.

As for the eating situation... We were in a similar boat with Abby at the end. Abby was never a food motivated dog, but up until the very end, she was happily eating anything we gave her. (Of course - we knew the end was near so what we were giving her was primo stuff - steak, yummy treats, etc.) But loss of appetite was definitely *not* the sign with her. With Abby, it was all in her eyes and her breathing.

I think you will be able to see it in Zeus's eyes when he has had enough or the pain is too much. I really wasn't sure I believed it when everyone told me we'd get "The Look" - but man, did I ever.

And even at her final appointment at the vet, she was happy, wagging her tail, eating all the treats we could give her - but that look that she gave me before we left for the vet - well, there was no misunderstanding that look. I think Zeus will let you know when it's time.

I know this time is hard, but also so special. Hang in there, and please give Zeus some extra loving from us!!

Jackie, Angel Abby & MBBunny Rita

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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Thank you everyone, I know that this is a hard topic to re-live and talk about so I do not underestimate the kindness each of you have shown by "going there."

With our last two dogs, it really was a matter of stopping eating other than what gourmet foods we begged them into swallowing and even then, yes, we eventually saw 'the look'.  It was just a change in the way they looked at us, as if they suddenly looked tired or just done.

It is just so different this time.  If you look into Zeus' eyes, he still has that happy, puppy look. And everything that he eats is still being processed based on his functions.  But I can tell his breathing has declined even more and he just seems uncomfortable in his belly (which looks bigger by the day).  I guess maybe it will eventually become painful instead of just uncomfortable and maybe this time we will have to let a baby go due to pain as opposed to the body just giving out.  God this sucks.

Zeus was a Husky mix diagnosed with Osteosarcoma at age 11.  A visible lung met and suspicious spot on his liver meant a poor prognosis-six weeks was our vet's best guess. We decided to fight for our boy and his right front leg was amputated on 12/1/11. We did six rounds of chemo, changed his diet and spoiled him completely rotten. We were blessed with 10 great months after diagnosis. Against the odds, the lung met remained a single met and grew very little over those months. A wonderful furbaby with the most gentle spirit, he fought with a strength that we never imagined he possessed. We have no regrets...
http://zeuspod......pawds.com/

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I was glad to hear that Zeus is still happy and full of love.

 

We didn't experience an abdominal tumor but we did experience a dog with a spirit that kept her going much longer than anyone thought possible. Her lungs were filled with mets and she had a spinal met. Yet, she kept eating, and her eyes, oh her eyes, still sparkled with life and love. Based on her xrays, my vet had encouraged us to consider letting her go earlier than we did but I couldn't do it because her eyes and tail were still puppy-like, just like Zeus's.

 

Then, as she declined over a week or two, her eyes were different one morning. I saw that the sparkle was gone and that thumping her tail was an effort. She was so so tired. Then, I knew, immediately and without a doubt, that it was her time. We spent the rest of that day with her and let her go in the evening. She seemed to simply run out of energy... but had no other dramatic symptoms aside from a mild cough and difficulty using one leg.

 

I believe that when you love a dog as much as you love Zeus, you'll be able to read what his heart wants by looking in his eyes.

 

I hope that you have more tail-thumping days ahead of you. I remember the phase that you're in because we were there a month ago. I'm thinking of you.

K, an 8 year old chocolate lab, was diagnosed with osteosarcoma of the radius and ulna on 12/23/11. She had stereotactic radiation to kill the bone tumors, and 3 rounds of carboplatin. On 3/16/12, lung mets were found. We tried several different kinds of chemotherapy to slow the lung mets but none worked. Finally, mets appeared at other sites, including her spine. She earned her angel wings on July 15, 2012. K changed my life, and I'll never forget her. Our/my journey is chronicled at romp-roll-rockies.blogspot.com.

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I'm so glad to hear that Zeus is still enjoying life.

For Magnum, she still continued to have a really strong appetite right to the end.  For her it was the pain, because to get up and move around was very painful for her.  Her eyes were still bright but there was a weariness in them that told me it was all starting to be too much.  Together with her crying if I left the room I knew we were nearing the end.  When we got xrays that said she was at risk of a fracture I made the decision because to take her home from the hospital would have been to subject her to more pain and I think she had had enough (she actually seemed so relieved to be at the hospital, as if she knew).

I had a close relative who died from bowel cancer.  It had spread to his liver which became very enlarged and his abdomen swelled up.   The growth of his liver tumour was much faster than anyone anticipated and it was the intense pain that took him back to the hospital and to the news that he had only days to live. 

I'd be watching closely for pain.  Our dogs are so good at hiding it from us so when they are no longer hiding it we know they must be in a lot of pain.

I agree, it really does suck. All you can do is watch Zeus closely and trust that you will know when the time comes.

 

Thinking of you and sending you lots of hugs.

 

Karen and Spirit Magnum

Magnum: 30th May 2002 to 5th May 2012. Lost her back left leg to osteosarcoma on 5th Sep 2011. Lung mets found on 20th Mar 2012 but it was bone mets in the hip that ended her brave battle. Magnum's motto - "Dream as if you'll live for ever, live as if you'll die today" (James Dean). Loyal, loving, courageous and spirited to the end. My beloved heart dog, see her memoirs from Rainbow Bridge ...... http://princess.....pawds.com/

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