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My 6 year old newfie named Mocha had her left back leg amputated 3 weeks ago due to bone cancer. Up until the bone cancer was diagnosed, she was a very active, playful, alert, oriented dog. Over the years we've had 4 newfies and Mocha was by far the most hyperactive newf we've ever encountered. Even the 3 months after the diagnosis but before the amputation she was still acting very normal and going for walks every day with vigor and enthusiasm. Then practically overnight the bump on her ankle grew quite large with cysts forming. She was also limping badly and we knew she was in a lot of pain. The vet said she had to have that leg amputated quickly. The vet did the surgery a week later. When she came out of the vets office the day after surgery she seemed happy and was walking pretty good. Even the vet was amazed at how quickly she was up and around. The vet prescribed no pain meds and said she was good to go. Well in the few weeks since the surgery she seems to me to be depressed, disoriented, not very alert to her surroundings and very unwilling to get up and walk around. She eats fine and is going to the bathroom with no problem. Once we get her up and walking she seems to be doing good, has to rest every few yards for a few seconds or so but then gets up and walks some more. I do notice at night especially that she will start to whimper. But as soon as one of us sits with her, the whimpering stops. She also will yelp when first getting up from a resting position, but once up there she doesn't yelp or cry or whimper. I just don't know if this is usual behavior or not. I just feel so bad for her. She just seems so out of it, like she knows something is missing on her and she doesn't know why. She's like a completely different dog. Has anyone gone through this? As I mentioned before, she's on no pain meds whatsoever, and I don't know if maybe she should be or if it's just going to take time before her old self will come back.
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I think many dogs are off pain meds by the end of week three- but almost all of them are taking pain meds the first two weeks or so. I'm kind of surprised that Mocha didn't get any pain meds- was she on an anti-inflammatory? What Mocha may be experiencing now is phantom pain - talk to your vet about that. There are pain meds that work for that. When she left the vet she probably had meds still in her system from the surgery. We see many pups here do well for a day or two then sort of crash.
I think a discussion with your vet is in order. If she cries every time she tries to get up she may have strained something or tweaked her back getting used to her new mobility. And since she hasn't been on pain meds she may still be having discomfort from the surgery.
My little pug Maggie was also a left rear amp. It took her six months to work up to walking half the distance she did before the surgery. Mag was a bit of a slug though. I could tell that she was tired because her back end would sag, or her one back leg would wobble. At first she had trouble standing still- eventually she could stand and eat, and to sniff, and even shake herself.
And Maggie was not at all good with change- how about Mocha? Maggie was unhappy for at least 4 weeks, and didn't show any interest in playing for about 6 weeks. But she eventually came around and was her happy, obstinate self for almost 4 years. Most pups here seem to return to their old selves in 2 or 3 weeks.
Karen and the pugapalooza
Thanks Karen for your quick response...Before Mocha's amputation she was on Tramadol and Piroxicam. When I picked her up after her surgery the vet said nothing about continuing the Tramdol but I did ask about the Piroxicam, which he said I can stop that now. I have some leftover Tramadol so I just gave her one now and I'll see how she does sleeping tonight.
I just feel like my life has turned upside down but I'm so glad that there is a website for me to get answers to my questions. I feel bad calling my vet for everything so it's reassuring when other people have had to deal with the same challenges that I am facing now and can offer me advice. I will call the vet however about the pain meds. I try not to get so frustrated with Mocha and sometimes I feel like she's getting somewhat lazy and stubborn and therefore not wanting to walk around anymore. Sometimes I wonder about physical therapy but when I mentioned that to my vet, he said all she needs is to get some walking around the house instead of spending lots of money in rehab. But at 120 lbs. it's not easy to get her up and about without yanking on her collar which I hate to do but I don't want her to waste away by not getting any exercise.
It has only been 3 weeks so I will give it some more time. And she is eating good. I also chose not to do chemo but she is getting Apocaps , K-9 Immunity , Fish oil, cinnamon and honey, glucosamine and is on no grain dry dog food as well as chicken and yogurt. I'm trying that route as she did really well after being diagnosed back in July and i put her on that diet right from the beginning. But then of course her ankle got worse 3 months later which the vet attributed to bone fracturing. But up until then she was running, happy and playful. I guess I will try to be more patient. Thanks again!
Hi Cheryl,
I'm sorry that you and Mocha are going through this experience, but we'll try to make it easier for you.
First of all, never feel badly about calling a vet for input. You pay their salary, they are there to help you, especially during ruff times.
Now, Mocha is definitely adjusting to her new routine. It takes time, and some dogs, especially giant breeds, take longer than others to find their new normal just because it's more challenging to move so much mass around. It will happen though, and you'll wonder why you were ever so nervous. But in the meantime, for her to adjust without being on any sort of pain control, seems like it's just making things harder based on what you're describing. I mean, imagine if you had a leg amputated and weren't given any pain meds? That would really make things tougher. Like Karen said, most dogs are off pain meds by now, but these are dogs who were on it right away, which means their pain was under control from the get-go. I'm not a vet, but it sounds like maybe Mocha never got the pain under control, which is making it harder to get her bearings?
I would absolutely ask your vet for some good pain control like a NSAID at the very least.
I hope this helps. Please let us know how Mocha is doing and what your vet says. We'll be here any way we can for you.
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It may not be a bad idea to get a second opinion about Mocha. Depending on when your vet attended vet school, and their personal experiences, they may have very different (not necessarily wrong) ideas about pain management and recovery than another vet. I would recommend asking around and finding another vet in your area that your peers have found to be helpful and compassionate. I have worked with many different vets and all of them have different methods, and some use the same protocol that they have used for years and are not really open to trying different things. A second opinion would provide a new set of eyes for Mocha's situation and they may be able to give you some piece of mind. When you make an appointment for a second opinion, just ask the new vet office to call your old one and ask for Mocha's records and xrays, that way you will not need to feel awkward about telling your old office that you are going somewhere else. If your old vet office seems offended that you are seeking a second opinion, they are being extremely unprofessional and are not worth your time and money anyway.
I agree, I think a second opinion is in order. Don't even begin to feel guilty about a second opinion, there's no reason to feel bad. Sounds like Mocha might be experiencing pain, and it's wearing on her. Maybe she pulled a muscle or something. I think physical therapy is a great idea if you can afford it, 120 lbs is a lot of dog to get moving, and they know how to do it safely.
Tate was really happy when he first came home and then seemed kind of down for awhile. After about 6 weeks, we took him to our cabin and he was back to his old self! So maybe once you get the pain thing under control, do something that Mocha loves to do, something she can get excited about! I think that could help perk her up.
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Sorry to hear that Mocha is not feeling great. Sometimes it does seem that some of the bigger pups take a bit longer to get back to their old personalities.
Don't have too much to add beyond what others have said, but wanted to let you know I'm sending pawsitive thoughts out for you and Mocha!
Keep us posted. Hope she starts to feel better.
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My dog Levi did't really seem to come around until the vet gave him some muscle relaxers. Can't remember the name of it anymore...methi- something? Sorry. I think he was just so stiff from moving in a new way. Something to ask about anyway!
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I think that the giant dogs often do better if they take the NSAIDS (Piroxicam) for a little longer due to their large muscle mass. Right now all of those muscles and nerves that have been cut are trying to heal and often the tissue is still inflamed or easily irritated. I am also a big believer in the benefits of gabapentin for phantom pain .
Pam
I know that when Sassy had her right rear leg amuptated 17 days ago that she was on a pain patch fentanyl for 3 days plus rymdal. that wasn't enough towards day 2 and she was whimpering so they added a tramadol. You know your dog better than the vet so if you think she is in pain then you need to consult another vet. I am surprised they didn't give you more meds than that. I only gave Sassy a Tramadol when she acted like she needed it. Other than that I can't add much more than anyone else. Prayers.
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Thank you all for your responses and thoughts regarding Mocha. I really do appreciate it. Yesterday just on a hunch, I took Mocha's temperature. It was 102.8. Not an extremely high fever but a fever nonetheless. I called my vets office. I spoke to another vet who works there and she told me to start Mocha back on Piroxicam, as that would help with the fever as well as the pain. I do notice an improvement, albeit slight, in Mocha. Her temperature is back to normal at least. She even will stand up without yelping now. So I will definitely continue on the Peroxicam. I just wish she was more alert and didn't sleep so much. But it has only been a little over 3 weeks but I guess I worry about everything now with her. I find myself analyzing her every move and wondering if she is acting normal or not. I guess I am being unrealistic to ever expect Mocha to be her old self again; it's just so surreal that only a few short months ago she was so playful and taking me for walks, and now she's so different.
Every now and then we do catch her smiling and she still wags her tail whenever we are around her, even if she's lying down and it seems like she's sleeping. I love her so much and just can't bear the thought of being without her. I know she's adapting to her new way of life and I need to do the same. I am thankful that she is at least still with us, because last month before her amputation I really thought that that was the end. But I am so grateful that we went ahead with the amputation. Just wished I had more information then about what the post-op recovery would be like for us. I am so happy for this website as it has been so helpful. Thanks all..
Cherylg,
Every dog adapts differently. Sassy has her days where she will get right up to go outside to go potty & other days I have to coax her out. Days that she has comes right inside and others like today where she just laid outside. (so I will make you laugh. I have huge yard and the first few days the only way I could get her to come inside was to go get the car & drive it up to her like a limo. Now when she doesn't want to go in she expect to go for a ride LOL). Some say she has me wrapped around her little paw, of course she does but I love her and will do it.
I monitor every move Sassy makes, I check on her every few minutes. You both will adjust it takes time. I am still adjusting to letting Sassy do things. Jerry has a saying on here to Be More Dog . I am learning to become more dog and go with the flow. She may never be her old self but she will develop a new improved self. There will be some things it will take time to do again. For us, Sassy always slept on my bed before her amputation. Before her amputation I took my bed off the frame & set it on the floor expecting her to still sleep there. Well she hasn't slept there yet, she slept there a couple days after amputation but she tried to get up there by herself and fell her leg wasn't quite ready to support her getting up there. Every day I would hope she would come back and get on the bed. She would walk in and look at the bed & walk away. Day 16 I was busy working (work from home) not paying attention and out of the corner of my eye I saw her standing by the bed. Next thing I knew I glanced at her she hopped up there.
It will get better there will be good days & bad days and eventually the good will out number the bad.
Keep your chin up
Michelle & Sassy Sugar Bear
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05/04/2006 - Bosch, Sassy's pal, earned his wings 03/29/19 fought cancer for 4 months.
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Yay for you for being so pro-active and being a good medical advocate for Mocha! I hope the NSAID will help her get back on a healing path.
Try not to worry; she will get back to her old self. Although her routine and activities will be modified, she will still be the same loving, wonderful pup she was before surgery, it just takes some time. Hang in there!
Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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Good to hear there is some improvement.
Don't give up on seeing Mocha's old personality just yet. As I said in my first post Maggie took 6 weeks before she started playing with me again. Dang that little dog was stubborn! Mocha does have a lot to deal with, but we see here over and over how resilient our pups are. But they all heal, and deal on their own terms and timelines.
I didn't get much post op advice other than most dogs do fine on 3 legs. So when Maggie struggled I convinced myself I had done the wrong thing by amputating. Mag had her amp before Tripawds was around.
I have a soft spot for Newfies. I have been owned by pugs for 13.5 years, but I had a Newfie mix (mostly newfie) when I was younger. I called him Bo-dog, still the smartest, most loyal, and most protective dog I have ever had.
Keep us posted on Mocha's progress.
Karen and the pugapalooza
well now i think i'm the one that is dazed and confused... Mocha was doing okay until a few days ago when she suddenly stopped using her one good back leg. She did take a little fall while walking down the ramp but got up and walked it off. But a day later is when we noticed that she won't get up and walk anymore. She will literally drag her bottom from one place to another. We took her to the vet who could find nothing wrong with her. He did increase her pain medication, Tramadol, but still no difference. I am wondering if whether she finds it easier to get around dragging herself than to try to get up and use 3 legs. The vet recommended putting a towel underneath her and getting her up and about that way. We have been doing that and she does seem to use that back leg somewhat but the moment we let go of the towel she is back to sitting again. So that makes me think if she is getting somewhat lazy and if so, what should we do to rectify this situation.. Has anyone else experienced this? She is now 4 1/2 weeks post-op from amputation. I would expect things to get better by now, but it seems to be getting worse, at least in this situation. As far as her confusion goes, that seems to be getting better. She seems more alert to her environment and other people and dogs and she is eating without me having to coax her. Now we just need to deal with this dragging herself. I am so frustrated as she must be too.
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