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Mosby - Glad this site is here, recovery is rough
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It's okay to have a mini mental breakdown with us by your isde! We do thst a lot around nere.Weve gotcha' and won't let you drop off into the abyss, okay?

Richt now you don't know what it! So TRY and not make up a worse case scenario. That just wastes your energy a d takes your focus away from spoiling Mosby.

And it ABSOLUTELY could be an I inflammation reaction considering everything he's been through.

Keep rhings chunked down and deal with you KNOW, one step at a time!

Today he will jave his chemo and yoy have excellent plans in place for his care. The way you've arranged it on a Thursday so you and your husband can be with him through the week end is really good.

I've not dealt with crating, so no help there. There are lots of puzzles and mind game toys they make for dogs to help keep Mosby occupied.

Let us know how the chemo goes. Ask the Onco about taking him to the dog park when you k ow there will jist be a couple of dogs there (that you are familiar with). It may be that the immune system isn't at risk right at first...or a week later...or whatever. And I'm not saying this is a good thing at all, but Happy Hannah's Onco never put restrictions on her at all. But what I've seen here, the degree of caution seems to vary from Onco to Onco. Of course, it's always best to err on the side of caution.

Hang in there! Mosby is a Champ...and so are his humans!

Hugs!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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5 January 2017 - 1:05 pm
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Please let us know what the biopsy says.  Happy and Healthy thoughts being sent your way!  Deb and Angel Bandit

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Unfortunately, the cytology is consistent with sarcoma. So this feels like getting punched while we're down. We need to do a biopsy to determine what kind of sarcoma and grade. Generally, we can't do surgery while he's getting chemo, although the vet did say that one option is to finish two sessions of the carboplatin, then do the surgery if his wbc count is ok, then resume the chemo. But I have no idea how invasive the surgery would need to be. The lump is on the thigh of his remaining hind leg, so mobility is definitely a concern.  

The good news is that he has so far handled his first carboplatin dose like a champ. Fingers crossed that he stays this way. We are trying to stay positive, but it is hard. He is such a good boy. Because his appetite is so good he's been getting lots of (healthy) treats. 

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6 January 2017 - 11:09 pm
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I guess you do feel like you got kicked while you're down! That sounds like a pretty accurate assessment to me! This really is a bummer. This, I think, is quite unusual.

As far as how and when to handle the biopsy procedure while doing chemo, I hzrve no clue.

With biopsy for osteo, I know they can be quite painful, as well as very, very often inconclusive. Now whether thats the case with this, I, again, have no clue.

If the biopsy is the only option, is it possible it coukd wait u til AFTER the chemo (assuming you're goi g for four), or is it something that shouldn't wait?

Don't mean to be asking more questions than giving answers!

THE most important thing to hang onto while on this roller coaster ride, ks thst Mosby is feeling so good!! 🙂 And that really is all that matters!! Yes, this is a hurdle, but it's a hurdle that can be managed and treated, so hang in there!! Mosby is one tough dude

And Mosby says, "Hey!! Where's my REAL treat? Where's my acoop'of ice cream?"

Lots of hugs!!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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7 January 2017 - 4:54 am
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Damn, damn, damn. Not the news that any of us were hoping for. I'm sorry and I can understand this feels like a kick in the teeth. I have no relevant experience or knowledge to offer, but wanted to send you hugs and support.

Meg, Clare and Elsie Pie xxx

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Thanks to both of you. Once again, I'm so glad this site is here and thankful to have this kind of support. 

I had to re-read the email from the vet - we'd have to finish 3 rounds of the carbo and then do the surgery. He is scheduled for 6 full rounds of carbo, so it would technically be halfway through. He'd finish his third round, then we'd wait 2-3 weeks, check his wbc and do surgery if that was ok. I'm organizing a consult with the surgeon there in addition to the oncologist, because I want them to determine how invasive the surgery is going to be, how much it will affect his mobility, and what kind of recovery period we'd be looking at before he could resume and finish the chemo. With respect to the lump itself, there is a chance that it is a soft tissue sarcoma, which is much less aggressive than osteosarcoma, but osteo simply can't be ruled out until the biopsy, and the biopsy wouldn't happen until we remove the lump and send it in. So we are in a catch-22. Can't even really find out what it is until after 3 rounds of carbo at the earliest, and finding out what it is will involve halting the chemo that he needs so badly to stop the spread of the osteo. 

The goal, of course, is Mosby's happiness and comfort. So whatever is thrown in our way, that goal will underlie all decisions that we make. And now that he's got his sutures out and is well on his way to physical recovery we are going to start introducing some low stress, low activity trips out of the house (besides his daily trip to get the mail, which he loves), because I know he's bored, and mixing some fun in with his healing rest periods will be good for his doggie soul. 

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Not sure if this helps, but I think Hank, who just passed around Christmas, lost a leg to osteo and had a tumor in his remaining leg as well.  His mom has a blog - a couple of days ago she did a goodbye, but she might be able to share experiences or you might just find her blog helpful.  

Otis - 106 pound lab/Dane mix, lost his right front leg to osteosarcoma on Febuary 9, 2016.  Four rounds of carboplatin completed in April, 2016.  Lung mets August 25, 2016.  Said goodbye too soon on September 4, 2016.   Lost his adopted sister, Tess, suddenly on October 9, 2016. likely due to hemangiosarcoma.  

Wherever they are, they are together.

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Thanks, I will try to look for her blog. It does sound like it would be helpful. 

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Well, dagnabbit BUT... MOSBY sounds as if HE is doing well despite that other tumor! And THAT is , ultimately, what we all want so god on Mosby for being MORE DOG!!!

Did your vet state the rational for not doing surgery now and waiting? Would it be too much to recover from both? What are the differentials that he mentioned? What complications could arise from waiting? And why the three week period? 

Just to throw this out there: Heffalump had to have a second surgery post amp and the vets were absolutely positive it was not OSA because of the site. They had never ( and this is the Vet School mind you) seen OSA at that particular site. So they thought it was two types of cancer, which is not unheard of but relatively rare. It turns out it was OSA. Which really helped with our plan of attack going forward. (And, btw, Heffalump recovered quite well from the second surgery:)

I know this is not the news you wanted to hear but Mosby has super Mosby powers and always will! He sounds as if he is recovering quite well, is still a card, and has the best Be More Dog attitude! Mosby, you DA BOMB!!!!! BE MORE MOSBY!!!! Huge hugs and smooches and PyrPaws all around!

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I believe the rationale for no doing chemo now is that the "emergency" situation, as it were, is to address micro metastasis of the osteosarcoma, so that has begun, and generally you don't due surgery during chemo because the immune system is down. So while the lump needs to be removed, I think that the vet wants to at the very least get through three good rounds of carbo (which would be 1/2 way through our doses), check his wbc and platelets, then operate while keeping him on antibiotics to be safe. There is an option to monitor it through the course of 6 treatments and then decided on surgery, but then we'd be facing an unknown for several months. 

Where was the site of Heffalump's (cute!) second tumor, out of curiosity. Our oncologist is also fairly certain that it's soft tissue sarcoma, rather than osteosarcoma, but of course that's my biggest fear, especially since he had osteo in the other leg. This lump isn't in a bone or joint proper, like it was in his other leg (at the knee joint) - it's a subcutaneous, somewhat movable lump on his left thigh, maybe a quarter in size, over the thigh muscle. I know that extraskeletal osteosarcoma is possible, if rare, and the fact that he already has osteo is what is making me stress about it. I am reminding myself that we won't have a definitely diagnosis until it's removed, so I should try to worry as little as possible. Nothing we can do now is going to change anything. 

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Makes sense now that they are leaning toward a soft tissue sarcoma. Odd that it is moveable to some degree but  of course, better news if it is and since the vet does not recommend surgery at this point, that is actually pretty darn great news! Go Mosby!!! You keep kicking cancer's butt!!!!

Heffalump had an extraskeletal OSA originating in his spleen. Very, very rare. However, because of his chemo ( both traditional and metro) and the second surgery, he did beat the odds:) All of which it to say that even though it was not good news to hear, Heffalump came through it with flying PyrPaws which just showed us how unknowable each journey is. We were just dang happy that even though it was a met, he did very, very well after surgery:) 

It sounds as if your vet has an excellent plan on board and that Mosby is being a SUPERDOG!!!! That is fantastic!!!! You go Mosby!!!

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You are doing an EXCELLENT job of getting your questions answered and understanding what needs to be done, why it needs to be done, etc EXCELLENT!!

The plan that has been layed out on the best way to proceed and whymis really sound! Your Vets seem to really have a good handle on things and are very knowledgeable.

Unless something comes up otherwise, I think your Onco is probably spot on that it is NOT osteo, but rather a soft tissue sarcoma of sorts. Your Onco has seen Mos y, has inspected the lump thoroughly and seems to really know her stuff! So for now, there is NO reason to fear the "worse" and there is EVERY reason to focus on the NOW and stay fully present in Mosby's world...because his world is doing just great!!! BEING MORE MOSBY is a breat way to be!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

And for whatever it's worth, there seems to be some evidence that, if you can get three chemos done, that IS an effective amount to make a difference and that's why they want to get that third one in.

Big Lou, a large hunk of Mastiff, was "only" able to have three due to a bad reaction (actually, it may have just been two!) and has just celebrated almost a year plus of great QUALITY life and still going strong!!

Nkw give that boy a big smooch and watch is tail wag!! In fact, give him a "forbidden" treat and watch him go bonkers with joy!!! 🙂 🙂

Lots of love!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Well, I sure am late to the dance here. So much happens around here in such a short time!

I wanted to chime in regarding Mosby since my 13 year old "pup" lost a limb to OSA, has MCT on one of her hind legs (inoperable as it's between her pads/toes) so is on chemo for that and had knee surgery on that same leg while taking it. I am far from a smartypants on Carbo vs Palladia (what Izzy takes), but, I wanted to throw it out there that, if your vet feels like Mosby is strong enough to have another procedure and you trust him/her, go for it! 

It's tough to cope with all the curve balls you've been thrown but I wanted to encourage you and let you know at there is hope. Izzy didn't do any chemo after her amputation as there wasn't evidence of OSA spread beyond her affected leg and she beat the survival odds. Yes, she ended up with a different cancer about 9 months later, but, her breed is prone to it and she's OLD, so just like humans, if ya live long enough, you'll probably get some kind of cancer. She then ruptured the cruciate ligament in the same leg with the MCT and even though she is currently on chemo, we operated (exactly one year after her amputation) and she did great, even though the risk of infection was much higher. Our surgeon actually put the antibiotics IN her knee during the operation. I had no idea they could even do that!

Izzy has no evidence of lung mets and we are 16 months post amp. Her oncologist chose to treat the MCT with Palladia because it not only starves the mast cell tumor but has also shown some promise in treating OSA tumors. Will her carbo do double duty for Mosby?

I feel like I'm rambling now but my point is GO MOSBY! Dogs are so incredible and resilient so try not to worry (impossible, I know) and we are here to cheer you both on!

Momma to the world's most beautiful American Bulldog, Izzy!! Lost her front leg to OSA 9/18/15. Diagnosed w MCT in June 2016. Celebrated her 1 year ampuversary with knee surgery on 9/18/16! MCT recurrence in Dec 2016. Happy & hungry til nearly 14, earning her wings on 7/31/17.

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Go Heffalump beating the odds!

Sally, I'm not sure what I would do without your kind, encouraging words. It makes sense that three treatments can be effective - that must be a point at which they feel comfortable stopping for a bit. We will just hope that his numbers and everything come back strong after the 3rd treatment so he can proceed with the surgery. That's awesome about Big Lou, and very encouraging to hear. 

It's also encouraging to hear about Izzy's operation while on chemo. Our oncologist specifically mentioned that she'd have Mosby on antibiotics through the surgery process, so it sounds like they would treat it similarly. I'm not sure if carbo will do double duty for Mosby, might depend on the type of sarcoma, but it probably won't hurt. 

Thanks everyone. Mosby had another good day today. He seems to be handling the carbo well (or at least the meds are helping him handle the carbo well) and has definitely not lost his appetite! And don't worry about the "less healthy" treats, Mosby definitely gets those, we just try to keep the majority healthy since it seems like we feed him so many and we want to keep him slim and trim. 🙂 Yesterday we made pasta and he got some pasta - that's his absolute favorite because he takes after his mama and loves carbs. 😉 And it's Saturday night, so he'll be getting Frosty Paws tonight! He loves his Frosty Paws. He's a rotten beggar, and his habits are definitely returning. 🙂

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He's a rotten beggar, and his habits are definitely returning

I'm pleased to her it. Keep it up, Mosby! If you can't milk it now, when can you, eh?

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My Life as a Megastar

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