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How long of hospitalization recommended post amputation ?
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zoes4life
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22 August 2009 - 11:25 am
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I was just wondering if anyone has any advice or suggestions.  My baby had a successful amputation surgery yesterday.  They called me this morning and said she is doing so well they may send her home a day early.  I want her back ASAP, but I am concerned in my personal and limited human experiences post op, people seem to get the nausea, vomiting and decompensation a couple days post op.  Has anyone had any bad experiences where they had to go back to hospital or felt like they rushed them home too soon?  I live over 3 hours away from where she is at, I don't want to be in the car with her and not know what to do if something goes wrong.

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22 August 2009 - 11:29 am
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We had to take Jack back to the hospital because he was too active.  It was my own fault because he was doing so well and didn't limit him as much as i should have...he ended up with broken capillaries and abdominal bruising.  He stayed 2 extra nights then (4 days after surgery) so they could moniter his activity and make sure an infection didn't come about.  We took him home the day after surgery, but I wish I would've kept him there another night or two (or the entire 2 weeks of recovery!!!).  It's just so hard to leave them once you see them!!!

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22 August 2009 - 11:39 am
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I know I actually feel really bad because she is 3 hours away and I haven't seen her.  I am trying to think of it in terms that she is probably so out of it she may not know I'm there and if she does know, then she will be wondering why I'm not taking her with me.  I miss her so much.  They originally told me they generally keep them 3 days, so if she goes home tomorrow it would be 2 days.  They said she is eating and up and going to bathroom.  I just really want her home but not if it will do more harm than good.

Thanks for the info 

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22 August 2009 - 11:42 am
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Cemil had his surgery on a Monday and stayed at the hospital until Thursday night.  They wanted to be sure he could eat and walk and pee and poop, and the techs worked with him many times during the day, so that seemed to be a good plan.  Of course, I was able to go visit him each evening, which was the high point of my day, and also his.  But he did enjoy all the attention he got from the people there. I didn't have trouble with him being too active because he's pretty laid-back by nature--if you read my posts from those days, I was pretty worried because he was so slow to get up to speed. 

I think an extra day or two at the hospital is good.  They're just that much farther along in their recovery when they come home.

Cemil and mom Mary, Mujde and Radzi….appreciating and enjoying Today

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22 August 2009 - 11:48 am
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When Emily had her surgery we brought her home the next day.  The doctor had said they never let the dogs go home the day after surgery.  She was doing so well that they called us and said she could come home.  Emily didn't have a lot of the complications some other dogs have had.  It seems like maybe front leg amputations are harder but I don't really know.  Emily is a rear leg amputation and ran us down the sidewalk and down some steps to get to the car.  Also, being a doberman mix she is a bit high strung and they thought she would rest better at home.  A third interesting thing is dogs that are people pleasers do better.  

So ask yourself what kind of medical care does she need,  is she high strung, is she a people pleaser?  I think all of these things will help you make your decision.  If Emily had a stint like some dogs I have read about I would have thought twice about bringing her home.  Also, it is a factor that you live so far away.  We are about 15 minutes away so we could have got her back to the hospital quickly if need be.

No one knows your baby like you do but with your distance alone I would probably wait.  But that's just me.

Good luck.  I know you will make the best decision for you.

Debra

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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22 August 2009 - 1:16 pm
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Lulu came home 2 days after her surgery, it was on a Monday and she came home Wednesday afternoon.  She had a drain for the fluid that filled into the cavity where the tumor (breast cancer) was removed, so they wanted to make sure that had mellowed out and removed before she left.  They also had a machine managing her IV pain meds for the the first couple of days.  I brought her back to the vet that Friday when I noticed some bruising on her belly & the bandage was coming apart.  She was fine, I was just a little paranoid.

Discuss it with her doctors, what are the risks/benefits of bringing her home today vs tomorrow or the next day vs staying in the hospital an extra day or two.  What would make you most comfortable, because that is important too.  Emily's mom is right, you know her and yourself and Emily's mom, Debra,  gave some good examples of things to consider.  As with everything else, there is no right answer, so do what you feel is best for you and have a plan in place just in case something happens & you want to bring her in.

I would say, and this is probably obvious, no matter when you bring her home, make sure that your local vet and emergency room (if possible) know of her condition (make sure the hospital has faxed the records or get a copy of them when you pick Zoe up), so that if you feel the need to bring her to the vet, you can go to your local vet/emergency room first.  It sounds like Zoe is a rockstar Superstar, healing and moving on with her new life as a tripawd.

Take care.

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22 August 2009 - 2:04 pm
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First, let us say welcome to this forum that, as you can tell, is filled with wonderful compassionate people who are willing to share their experiences, provide support, and encouragement where ever possible. Next, we want to say how sorry we are to hear of your diagnosis and the worries that we know are consuming your life.

You will hear over and over that each dog responds differently to the conditions. The fact that there is discussion regarding releasing on the early side is excellent. Cherry was always scheduled for a single overnight following her amputation. Trust me when I say, that was about as much as any of us could take. She was so very thrilled to see us when we went down to pick her up that she was dragging the technician. This from an obedience trained dog who has always stayed in the normal heeling position from birth.  It was the chemical and chemotherapy that knocked her for a loop, but that is another story. If they are willing to release, then bring them home where they will be most comfortable.  Be prepared to baby them and try to keep there activity level down till they are really healed.  Cherry and I slept together in the guest bed for the first two months (duration of the chemotherapy) so that I could keep close touch with her.  I was quickly awakened when ever she stirred and needed my attention.

Clearly you a very devoted pawrent and just by having the operation, are willing to do what ever is necessary to return the quality of life.  Again, if the surgen is willing to release, then I would bring them home.

Bob & Cherry - Nine months down our journey and going strong!

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22 August 2009 - 4:18 pm
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The one thing I have learned in the 9 months (yes, nine) we've been here is "there is no 'normal".  Each dog is different, each circumtance is different.  Trouble had surgery Wednesday morning and came home early Friday afternoon.  For us it was perfect.  She was adapting on her own by then and had begun to gain her confidence.

Lots of healing thoughts coming your way as you begin your journey.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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22 August 2009 - 4:26 pm
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hugapitbull said:

The one thing I have learned in the 9 months (yes, nine)


Wow! Can't believe that much time has passed.

I had my surgery at a vet school six hours away. The doctor released me the next day after surgery. I was lucky, I didn't have any major complications except a seroma.

Zoes, if your local vet is collaborating with your surgeon, then IF anything happened you could go to their office right?

The important thing is to do what you feel most comfortable with. If you are willing to have her stay one night, the clinic needs to accomodate that wish. Your mental health and confidence is just as important.

Good luck!

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zoes4life
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22 August 2009 - 5:46 pm
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Thanks for all the advice and support everyone.  Smile

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22 August 2009 - 7:10 pm
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Hi, Horacia stayed in hospital 2 days after surgery and she was so well, that they told me to go get her although it was planned that she should stay at least 5 days.

I live one and a half hours away from hospital.

She was too active when she came home (i did not know better and did not confine her) and had a set back on the fourth day. Started a fever and did not move at all. At the end it was nothing more than that she hat overdone it. but i felt miserable and whished she had stayed a couple of days more over at the clinic, even if i missed her terribly.

Spirit Horacia, Castaño, Olympia + human family Cecilia, Georg and Julia - - - Hori first diagnosed 8/6/09, ampu 8/12/09, run over the bridge 9/10/09 – We miss you every day dear girl!

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22 August 2009 - 9:45 pm
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Similar to some of the others, Tazzie was doing so 'fantastically" that the vet sent him home early (2 nights at the vet). But of course his bruising and pain did not start until day 3 and 4, so he went from being hyper to being a piece of heavy cement. They do need to come home sometime, but why not let them get care that might prevent any complications for as long as possible. I also live 3 hrs from the vet clinic and the next two weeks were hell - I felt so isolated as Tazzie lay around like a rock. Was he okay or not? I could not drive 10 min to get a vet to look him over.

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23 August 2009 - 9:37 am
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Smokey went in for his surgery on a Wednesday and we picked him up on a Saturday.  He was doing great the day after and the hospital said I could pick him up, but I elected to have him stay a few extra days.  Mostly because our apartment wasn't conducive for his recovery and I didn't have anyone here with me yet to help him (and probably mostly me :)) after the surgery.  My parents came to town on that Saturday and with them, we picked him up and headed to their house for two weeks of recovery, as they had a nice big backyard and we didn't have to worry about walking him here.

As mentioned above, every dog is different and my advice is just go with what's comfortable for you.  I didn't allow myself to visit Smokey right afterwards because I didn't want to upset him.  I had no idea what to expect after never having gone through this before and I didn't want to show up, risk the chance of getting upset and then leave him after that.  A friend of mine did visit him for me (she's much stronger than I am! :)) and she called me the first second she could to let me know how great he looked.  And how many kisses he gave her!

We were also lucky that Smokey didn't have any complications after his surgery.  It just took him longer than the usual two weeks for the staples to come out because it didn't heal as quickly...

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23 August 2009 - 12:11 pm
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Dear Zoes: We have been thinking about you. So glad the surgery went well. We were sending you good thoughts! Romeo stayed two nights. We dropped him off Monday am and picked him up Weds afternoon. Initially they had said one night, but we wanted him to stay two nights because we had traveled up to VT from CT for the surgery. It is about a 4 1/2 hr drive. We wanted those extra hrs of supervision since we would be out- of- the-area from our beloved vets in VT. We spent one more night at my parents and actually brought Romeo back the next am just for a quick check because we thought he needed stronger pain meds (excessive panting, high respiratory rate, and sleeplessness). Our sweet vet examined him on the lawn so he wouldn't have to go back inside (he did not want to go back so soon!). I would think it is better to stay the extra night than to have to readmit them, but Emilys mom makes an excellent pt---it really depends on the dog. Some dogs might not feel comfortable and the extra night might not do them any good. We knew Romeo felt comfortable at this hospital; he loves the people there; and he was getting lots of love and individual attn. He is an easygoing guy, loves everyone, a laid back lab mix.    

Also one advantage to staying a couple days---Romeo got pain meds intravenously right to the amputation site for 48 hrs instead of 24. Don't be afraid to ask for more pain meds! I was a little surprised the surgeon sent him home with just three days worth of Tramadol. We asked Rich (same practice, Romeo's primary vet) if we could give him more from the pre-surgery Tramadol supply  

we had at home and he said absolutely--for weeks if he needs it. We ended up getting Buprenex (a sublingual morphine) and it was a wonder drug for us. It really helped him relax and get some sleep. We wanted to make sure he was comfortable for the ride back home.

I just wonder if they (some vets) tend to undermedicate for pain after new tripawds leave the hospital. My partner is a geriatric nurse practitioner and she sees many elderly patients undermedicated for pain because they can't fully advocate for themselves. I wonder if it is the same for dogs---since we know they will be very stoic. In Romeo's case, it seemed clear when he got stronger pain meds he could rest and begin healing. It also seemed very clear when he did not need the Buprenex. We stopped giving it to him during the day---just gave it to him before bed so he could sleep through the night (which helped us sleep as well). 

I will say that nothing can prepare you for seeing your beloved pup after amputation. It is very hard. They kept telling us Romeo was a star patient and doing great. I think I had expected him to be in better shape. I had also just seen a new tripawd discharged and thought, "Wow she looks pretty good." Still---it was heartbreaking to see him. We tried so hard to be positive for his sake, but you just love them so much you don't want to see them suffering----emotionally, physically, confused in any way. We knew we saving his life and he would be running around some day, but at that moment it was heart crushing.  We had promised each other we would never look back, but I did ask the vet, "Did we do the right thing?" I hope I'm not being too much of a downer, I just wanted to say very explicitly for us at that moment----it was very, very hard. One of the most heartbreaking moments of my life. 

Today, however, Romeo is suddenly his old self and he was so happy to ride in the car, get a doughnut hole, and take a trip to his favorite park. He sniffed around a little and then rested on the grass (it took a lot to convince him not to take off down the trail).

Last night he jumped off the bed and tried to run to the door like old times when my partner came home from work. His tail was wagging like crazy! We can see when he fully heals he will be a running, swimming happy Tripawd. It does get much better! Only one week and we can see a bright light at the end of the tunnel.     

Take care. Hope both you and Zoe are holding up ok. 

zoes4life
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24 August 2009 - 7:54 am
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Hi, I was thinking about Romeo too, I hadnt seen a recent update and I was hoping that everything was okay.  I did go ahead and pick her up a day early and so far so good.  She is sleeping alot.  And I know, I do wonder about pain control and how to gauge if she is doing okay or not.  She has a fentanyl patch on still, that comes off tonight though, and they gave her a week's supply of Tramadol and said we could get more if need be.  I do have confidence in all the vet's at Perdue, they are very competent.  I am just thinking they know their stuff and if they think she is ready to come home and this should control her pain, I trust their judgement.  

It is hard getting used to her like this, and I am in that phase of did I do the right thing? way of thinking at the current moment but I am trying to be strong for her and thanks to this website's preparation, when they first brought her to me, I didnt break down in tears, I just tried to act like nothing was different and I was just happy to see her. ( and I truly was) 

Thanks again everyone and keep us updated about Romeo

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