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3 March 2018 - 7:45 am
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Hey all,  I apologize that it's been too long since our last pupdate.  We are now a little over 10 months since the initial diagnosis and almost 9 months since the amputation.  We just had our second follow-up visit with Mizzou, which are scheduled in three month intervals for the nine months following completion of the treatments. They checked vitals, ran xrays, and did the usual poking around stuff that docs seem to do.  All tests came back clear and there is no evidence of spread of disease!  We are so very thankful that we were able to give our sweet Beastie a second chance.  I just wanted to make sure that you all know there is some hope when the initial outlook can look so very grim.

Thanks all for your support.  You all are doing amazing things.  

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3 March 2018 - 10:15 am
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HAPPY HOPPY DANCE GOING ON ALL OVER TRIPAWD LAND!! 🙂   We are all absolutely delighted to hear this spectacular update!!   Big dogs are inspired everywhere!   Actually, ALL dogs are inspired everywhere! 🙂

Of course, adding a picture of Beast Ann woukd have been even better.HINT. 

Ice cream and cake for everyone!! 🙂 🙂

Large dog hugs to all!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!Image Enlarger

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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3 March 2018 - 10:18 am
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Swweeeeet! Yay Beastie! Yay You! Thank you for sharing the good news with us and giving hope to those just starting their own Tripawd journey! Pawty on!

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4 March 2018 - 6:52 am
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beastann said
...  I just wanted to make sure that you all know there is some hope when the initial outlook can look so very grim.
You all are doing amazing things.    

Beastie Ann

What a fantastic update! Thank you!!! Hope is a beautiful thing to feel... Thank you!!!clap

There is great hope, when we read updates like this one!!! Mr. Grim madcan stay away for another few years as far as we are all concerned!

Keep staying strong Beastie, we’ll be keeping an eye open for more updates and hopeful wishes!

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5 March 2018 - 3:26 pm
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It's no easy task getting a good picture of a Beast in motion so here are a few pics of her doing what she does best...

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5 March 2018 - 5:10 pm
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SMOOOOOCHING....SMOOOOCHING THAT SMOOCHABLE MUG RIGHT THROUGH THE SCREEN!!! 🙂 🙂  SMOOCH!   KISS!!!   SNUGGLING THE MUG!!! 🙂

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Oh Beauty is the Beast!!

I agree Sally! That is one Smoochable face for sure!!!

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5 March 2018 - 10:04 pm
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Beauuuuuutiful Beastie, we love you!

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6 March 2018 - 1:55 pm
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Love this update!  Such a smoochable mug on Beast Ann!  Looking great there Miss Adorable!  Doing the happy dance here at hearing this great news!



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9 March 2018 - 11:59 am
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What a sweetie pie 💓

LOVE the pictures and the wonderful update ☺️

Keep hopping on and being happy Beast Ann, you do make all of us proud, including our Angels 😘😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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9 September 2022 - 10:32 am
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Hi Tripawd community.  It's been too long since I've given an update, but this time I come looking for some support/guidance.  Sweet Beastie is still hanging in there with us - 5 years past amputation!  Arthritis and muscular atrophy have taken their toll over the last couple of years.  After a bout with some leg pain, leading to no walking we started her on adequan injections a couple of years ago.  This worked well but eventually she started to lay around more and lost some strength on the three remaining corners.  This led to some more strains this past spring and more walking issues.  It started out as a once every couple of months and now about once every few weeks she'll have trouble walking (hopping).  Each time she has issues the wife will use her harness to support her and I usually carry her around the house, outside, and into bed at night.  She does have one growth about the size of a baseball on her side/belly that started to develop around 9 months ago.  It's too late in her life to worry about that as we would not treat it and it doesn't seem to bother her. She is currently on Gabapentin 300mg Capsule and Galliprant 100mg Tablet to manage inflammation and pain. 

Other than that - she eats, she poos, she pees, no accidents in the house, she hops up and is still full of wiggles whenever ever grandma or a good friend comes over (even when her leg is bothering her), no sleeping issues beside the occasional request for some water or to go outside for a break if she/we forgot to before bed.  Most days she is hand fed or her food and water is brought to her.  She still is happy with her joint care prescription Royal Canin diet, but of course she is spoiled more and more with some people food.  Her weight is not a problem at all. 

Where I need support - due to the more recent bouts of walking issues we are considering what is in the best interest of her quality of life.  We currently have a euthanasia appointment for Monday morning.  I'm half convinced that my wife scheduled this because I was having back issues last weekend and she's more worried about me taking care of myself.  Is it too soon?  I'm not worried about me and my back is fine.  She's our first baby.

Input greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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9 September 2022 - 3:30 pm
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Hi, welcome back.  Beast Ann is 12 years old now?  What a warrior!

But I'm very sorry you have reached this point with your girl. 

Here is a Link to a Forum thread on Hospice Care and Grief Support.  I linked to page 3 but you can scroll through the 3 pages of posts and there are several links to quality of life scales.

I can really empathize with you, my 16 year old quad-Pug Obie crossed just two weeks ago.  He had all his limbs but was deaf and had very poor vision.  He got adequan injections every two weeks.  We tried gaba but it spaced him out too much, and he only made 4 doses of galiprant before he threw it up. He had a front leg/shoulder pain issue that we could not diagnose.  Sometimes when he limped you would think the leg was broken, other times there was barely a limp.  Since he couldn't tolerate other meds we had started acupuncture treatments and a herbal pain relief.

With my last two Pugs the decision and timing were very clear, it was much harder with Obie.  One criteria I used was pain and making sure he was comfortable most of the day. I took comfort in the fact that he slept through the night without showing pain signals .  He was popping wheelies and barking his head off at meal time.  When I got out the harnesses and leashes he always wanted to go.  He couldn't walk far but he stood up in his chariot for the rest of the walk. 

The last couple of weeks his enthusiasm for food was starting to wane.  When I put him in the chariot he would just lay down.  The last few nights he was restless, getting up and repositioning several times.  I also looked at his body language- sometimes when he was standing he would just sort of sink down, tail and head down.  The last week he was like that more and more often.  And a couple other things- he was barely strong enough to hold a squat while pooping- the last week he actually fell into his poop a couple times.  When he would go outside he sometimes seemed like he didn't know how to get back.

When I looked at all these things I added up the time in the day he was happy and/or engaged and the time he seemed unhappy or in pain.  For the hours asleep I tracked soundly and comfortably asleep and restless sleep.  When I made the decision the unhappy/uncomfortable hours were more than the happy hours every day for a few days.

I wish you strength and peace as you navigate this part of the journey.

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls and Boy

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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9 September 2022 - 5:09 pm
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Thank you so much for your response and the helpful links, Karen.

Yes, a 12 year old Mastiff!  We've been on borrowed time for ages.  

I would like to add one more bit of detail that may figure into the equation that you provided.  My wife and I are back to mostly working in the office now so we're usually only home a couple of days a week and grandma is usually visiting a couple of days every other week. For the most part, Beastie lays around and occasionally barks at the passing walkers, but this has been pretty typical for the big girl her whole life - our lazy protector.  Would you count this laying around time a neither good nor bad in your good/bad hours?

Thanks,
Mike  

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Hi Mike,

Mastiff's and Pug's definitely have that lazy gene in common!

When I looked at Obie's activities (or lack of activity) I considered things he had always done, or done the last couple of years as normal and so counted as good time. 

And when I looked at the things he could no longer do, like climbing the upper stairs, didn't count as bad if it wasn't a new development.  I had replaced the carpet on the upper stairs with planking a couple years ago and once I did that he would no longer even try to get up those stairs which was due to his vision problems.  He could go down those stairs and the other stairs in the house without problems.  But the last few weeks he would not go down the stairs on his own- a sign to me that the pain in his leg/shoulder was getting worse and we were not able to effectively control that pain.  And another pain consideration- Obie was very, very stoic when it came to showing pain signs.  When he was 7 years old he tore his CCL and had a dislocating knee cap but he never limped or whimpered.  I only noticed when the hip on the bad knee side looked smaller.  So I knew that when he was reluctant to go down the stairs his leg must be very painful.

Karen and the Pug Girls and Boy

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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Beast Ann....amoochavle, loveable, cuddly Beast Ann!  Cannot believe it's been 2017 s8ncnyour amputation!  You are quite an inspiration  sweet girl💖

Karen gave you good feedback on how she measured  her very senior boy Obie's quality and comfort..

No one knows Beast Ann better than you and only you and your wife can determine what's  vest for Beast.  

I will sort of try and reflect back what I thinkmI've "heard" in your post.  See if this alogns with  your thought process.

Clearly andnu understandably  so , you're undecided, very conflicted  and questioning  if euthanasia  Monday is "right" at this time for Beast.

And take all this FWIW, okay???    If I had to give a "comparison " to whether you were tipping the scales in favor of euthanasia or not, I would say you are weighing more on the "not" side of the scales at this point.   It seems  you clearly are questioning if this is  based more on hurting your back (and that certainly mis a factor) than maybe Beast's condition????   Not sure if I'm accurate in that interpretation at all so, again, FWIW.

Beast "only" has issues where she needs help with mobility, etc every couple  of weeks?  Is that right??  Is there anything that seems to trigger that and what is it that seems to get her over those "episodes?

Just wondering  if upping her Gabapentin  may help.  300 mg is not much for a vig girl.

She's sleeping comfortably,  enjoying having her dinner brought to her, likes her naps and continues to ve your "lazy protector "  She's not showing any pain signs except maybe when she has those "episodes".  Ahe wiggles and happily greets her Grandma and friends.

Not trying in anyway shape or form to "cross the line" and impose an "opinion". From far away.  It seems to me, based on what you've said, Beast is still enjoying being Beast as a senior who jas slowed down and enjoys comfortably napping a lot.  A twelve year old Mastiff who'd been on three all these years would certainly  not feel like running a marathon.   

I guess after all this rambling and trying to guage how you are feeling emotionally and guage Beast's quality  and comfort level, it seems there is no "crisis" imminent.  This would give you a little more time to maybe try a bit more Gabapentin and maybe jave her Vet evaluate  her overall to make sure, other than the legs, she has no underlying issues interfering with her quality. 

Everything  I'be written is well intentioned  and, again, just trying to reflect where Iyou and Beast are based on your post.

Sending love and to you and your wife and extra smooches to Beast Ann🥰

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

 

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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