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10 August 2024 - 5:56 pm
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LOL you never need to apologize for the length of your post. That's why we have these forums. Trying to process a regular recovery takes a lot of thought, and when you throw in complications, well, you could write a whole book on it! I'm just so happy that Andy's mobility is doing so much better (and that he wee'd! Yay!).

Your vet is really awesome, I love that they took a culture and are being so mindful of the state of his infection, cleaning, caring for it, etc. The way things are going, in a couple of weeks that issue will hopefully be far behind you.

What a fun pack you have! Toby, Mia, and Andy have such adorable personalities, and must bring a lot of joy into your life! Your mom is so fortunate to have you leading the pack and helping everyone keep their spirits up through life's challenges. You are a bright spot in their day no doubt!

Oh regarding the recommended harness ... we do recommend the Ruffwear Front Range harness . I'm not sure if you can get it where you are, but there are plenty of knock-off imitations so if you can find any, that's what I'd recommend. Just make sure it has an area underneath that consists of a fabric panel for on the belly, not just straps. worst case you can also use a cloth grocery bag. See these s DIY Tripawd Dog Sling

I hope things continue going as well as they are! Update when you are able. smiley4

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So much to celebrate.......Urinating is at the top of the list!!   Gaining better mobility is also worthy of a huge celebration!!👏👏👏

 

  Toby, Mia, and Andy have such adorable personalities, and must bring a lot of joy into your life! Your mom is so fortunate to have you leading the pack and helping everyone keep their spirits up through life's challenges. You are a bright spot in their day no doubt!

Coildnt agree more.We also want to congra YOU for staying the course and being such a strong advocate for your Andy, as well as a pawsitive energy for him AND your Mom.

Thanks for the progress report.....andit is progress!!

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Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Your vet is really awesome, I love that they took a culture and are being so mindful of the state of his infection, cleaning, caring for it, etc. The way things are going, in a couple of weeks that issue will hopefully be far behind you.

After the vet we had prior- This one is really awesome! We've had different doctors, since it's a clinic and all- The first one was a overall vet, while this one is the orthopedist! They're all really sweet there. 

We had a checkup today and thankfully- since the original one- his wound closed a bit more! He's infection free now! And the wound looks much better now. So thankfully, the issue is now behind us! (I hope-) Andy's doing really well recovery wise, which is amazing. 

Although he no longer wants to drink from a bowl, so I have to get water in him forcefully. Hopefully that will change once he's able to be more active.

Oh regarding the recommended harness ...

We have also started seeing a physiotherapist? I think that's the name? She's going to do lasers for us so the wound heals better, and recommended some exercises aswell as a sling!

Now, we own a sling! Hopefully it might help him a bit- The harness thing is a bit problematic due to the fact that Andy decides what he likes, whether it's clothes or anything else. (he's always been on a collar as he doesn't..particularly enjoy harnesses) I sort of forgot that it was even an issue before! However, it might be better if we support his remaining back leg. However, thank you for the recommendation! 😀

Toby, Mia, and Andy have such adorable personalities, and must bring a lot of joy into your life!

They truly do! I have a few more things to share for fun!

Toby and Mia are a year apart from eachother and when Mia was a pup, people thought she was his kid! She of course isn't, but he's taken (and still does-) care of her like her parent! Which is extremely adorable. Come to think of it, I think Mia has more say than Toby or Andy in things. Because whenever Toby barks or tries to be a bit mean- all it takes is Mia barking at him and he stops! Also, Mia barks at us when we try to pick Andy up- She not only barks but, also jumps! 

I've also noticed recently that Toby and Mia seem to copy eachother, you'll either find them sleeping the same way or see one doing the same as the other normally does. It's as if they decided to play a game of mimicking! (I wonder who's winning...) 

My first pet is Andy, and he's always been calm, so it's quite interesting to see Toby and Mia have entirely different personalities, they all do.

Andy's always been cuddly, but now he's more of a sleepy head, which is the most adorable thing to see everyday. Mia beat him with the cuddly though, she's now the most cuddliest dog we own! She also constantly licks you- which Andy never does. Andy doesn't mind children, I mean- he's been stuck with me, so it would be strange if he didn't like any. Mia on the other hand- Absolutely despises children and dogs! They both hate water.

As for Toby- He's afraid of the dark and loud noises. He loves water alot, and only occasionally barks at either people that smell funky to him or at dogs that he doesn't know. Both he and Mia bark at birds, but they only really do when they're being walked together. (which we learned the hard way- we can't, because Toby protects Mia)

I do wonder how Mia will act when she's finally being walked with Andy again- Whether she'll be more protective or not. All I know is that he'll probably be more inclined to walk with her. He became younger when we paired them together for walks! He'd even play with her and they'd often run together. Unfortunately, since Mia is a danger to other dogs and is a specialist at traumatizing children- I can't really let her run around anymore. Same goes for Andy now.

I'll try to pair them together once it's possible again, maybe Mia might even help Andy around? I almost feel like she takes him as her puppy, even though he's far older than she is! I'm honestly glad I begged mom to let me have Mia, I can't imagine not having her around at all.

She was honestly- quite a surprise! She was a present to someone for christmas, but the person couldn't take care of her and posted a post on Facebook, so I begged mom to let me have her. She was a tiny ball back then, and grew into a worm! As for Toby- He chose mom, and mom took him in because she was grieving. I'm glad I have them all! Honestly- I'm glad I've had the chance of owning a lot of animals! It makes life much brighter. 

Andy also doesn't care about cats- Mia finds them cute (probably) and would most likely be a bit rough with them- but would be friends. Toby on the other hand would rather eat them. They are however afraid of rodents? Somehow.. Unfrotunately that fear doesn't go to bunnies.

I feel like sometimes, I could go on for hours regarding my pets- It would be a book by then though icon_lol

We'll have another checkup next week, and this week on thursday we're going for another laser!

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13 August 2024 - 10:28 pm
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Ok I'm glad I saved this to read until the end of my day, because I'm going to sleep with a big smile! smiley4Toby, Mia, and Andy are all so colorful and have so much attitude! You have way more entertainment around your home than I do, that's for sure!

You really manage all of their personalities so well, you've got all their little quirks dialed in. That says a lot about how well you speak dog smiley16You sure could write a book about it, and you should.

While thinking about walking Mia and Andy, have you thought about a dog stroller so that Andy can keep up? That way he can ride, and go along for all the fun. Strollers are especially great for folks who have more than one dog in the family.

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Hi once again! Got a few more updates today.

Andy's wound is closing up nicely and is much smaller now! He's also a bit more active at times and now travels around the room a bit!

Mia started copying Andy now, so she sleeps the same way he does which is extremely hilarious!

have you thought about a dog stroller

We own one! We bought it due to travelling as neither me or my mom own a car and he couldn't keep up before due to feeling unwell before the procedure. We had thought about taking the stroller for walks, but I'm sort of worried about Mia tipping it over since she tends to bark too much and jumps during barking. On top of that- we have a park not even 5 minutes away from my street, so I can manage carrying him, although with Mia it's a bit difficult to. I sort of forgot that Mia in general just dislikes other dogs to a huge extent that it's impossible to take her and him together, now it is anyway. I might give it a try eventually, some things need a bit of figuring out before I completely write it off haha!

Got a few more updates today.

Oh, I also decided to leave one update last-

Andy walked once on his own so far, atleast until today! This happened a few minutes ago actually-

I wasn't holding him this time around, but having my hands as backup incase he was falling or going off balance, and he managed to walk on his own somewhat! What really surprised me more was the fact that he stood on his own entirely, no hands required! I'm so proud of him, I was worried with the fact that his back leg is clearly weaker, but he not only learned how to walk properly, but I now know that he can stand on his own!

Regarding rugs- my brother has an older one that he agreed to let us borrow, but he lives out of city and currently can't come by. Which is alright! As we're not supposed to let him be as active for now, not until the wound completely closes.

Andy's recovery is thankfully going better and better, that's one of the best things I can even hope for considering the fact that my summer break is ending soon- So atleast I feel a bit at ease with leaving him to mom.

As for all the silliness around my home- They're all the best furry family members we could have. I can't imagine not having any of them around! I'm also glad that my and my siblings' endless begging for a dog ended with us having Andy- Because he's the sole reason why I even like animals that much! I guess growing up with a dog really makes you think of them as siblings haha! I'm also happy with the fact that I had the chance having many other animals, I learned more and still keep learning more. It's probably the closest I'll ever get to being like a vet, without actually being a vet and simply knowing how to take care of all kinds of animals!

I like that I know how animals treat eachother, because while Mia and Toby don't play together anymore- Toby still looks after her regardless, and so does she! Mia is also my partner in crime because she watches over Andy, Toby, and mom when I'm in my room, or when me and mom are not home. She's my eyes and watches carefully, whether its sleeping near and sniffing the others to make sure they're good or not.

I also noticed that when Andy had an infection, Mia would sniff at the wound. At first I thought it was nothing, since she sniffed it when we brought him home- But once our suspicion was confirmed, it clicked. She actually smelled that Andy wasn't well! Which reminds me of the few times Toby would attack Andy, I wonder if he smelled something was wrong aswell? I won't know though, since he calmed down but it might be that. Would make more sense considering the fact that both Mia and Toby are part lab and they both immediately know when something's wrong, whether it's me or mom. Andy doesn't react to it as much as those two do, so I'm guessing that's what labs have. I find these things really intriguing, aswell as the way that Andy learned where to put his leg as if it clicked one day, it's like..I wonder what they're thinking, type of thing.

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19 August 2024 - 3:34 pm
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Have thoroughly enjoyed getting  to kmow all your "siblings" and partner in crime Nurse Mia😎  You know each one on a Soul level and respect who they are collectively  and individually.   

It does sound like Mia, and Toby too, "sensed" something was "off" with Andy.  Dogs are soooo in tune with energy at a level we can only begin to understand. 

Olay, time to CELEBRATE  HIGE MILESTONE FOR ANDY!!!👏👏👏

Walking AND standing on his own!!!    Yes walking  "somewhat" is.HUGE PROGRESS!!!

Andy, we are soooo proud of you AND your hoomans who clearly adore you!!!   Extra treats for everybody and chocolate candy for the hoomans!!

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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YAY ANDY! smiley_clapThis is all very big progress! 

Did you happen to see today's Tripawd Tuesday about Piper the senior doggie and mini Schnauzer? THere's some inspawration for youl.

I love that you are so intuitive and observant with your dogs. You would make a great vet! Why not give it a whirl, sounds like you're still in school? But if that's not in your plans, you can still be a vet groupie like me! I geek out on all that stuff.

I wonder what they're thinking, type of thing.

Have you seen this? You will probably love it!

https://www.msn.....r-AA1oOhuY

Very cool news that life is returning to normal for the pack. Andy is making excellent progress on the road to recovery!

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2 October 2024 - 1:36 am
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Hi! It's been awhile again.

Andy's doing much better now, he could technically walk on his own, his balance tends to be still off but he's doing better than before.

Standing up is a bit troublesome for him, but we plan on teaching him from his bed once we know he'll walk alright. 

That little grandpa tends to walk away from me when I'm handling things! Which is amazing and great, because at least he walks right now. (me and mom are both under the weather currently) Other than that, we're also practicing walking on floor, since he walks alright on pavement and grass- we've been testing the floor at home. Mainly because the carpets we bought didn't suit what we needed and he can actually walk really well on the floor. He made baby steps alone :3

We also decided to buy a new stroller altogether! The last one we had wasn't very stable and started breaking apart kind of. So new stroller is on the way!

There's one thing that's kind of worrying? more of concerning. The place where he had his amputation left a bone attempting to go through his skin. To which his skin tries to recover, but sometimes the scab just falls off. I'm not sure what bone it even is, we just noticed it trying and failing to break through. He doesn't seem to be in pain though..

Other than that, that's about all the new progress and news regarding Andy.

It does sound like Mia, and Toby too, "sensed" something was "off"

They definitely did, Mia sometimes still goes and sniffs Andy, then again she's always been more inclined to feel someone's emotions while as Toby always knows where something hurts. It's really fascinating, because Andy never did any of that and he's my first doggo. I'm partly guessing that the reason why Mia and Toby can sense these things in particular is probably because they have labs in their genes. 

The thing that's even more interesting is the fact that while Toby takes more after a lab and thus I get why he's capable of knowing the stuff he does, Mia is not really leaning towards that part at all. Yet she's the one that knew something was off with Andy then. Really interesting stuff..

You would make a great vet! Why not give it a whirl,

I had thought about it last year. That I could in theory try and go into a different first year, specifically vet school. 

Then I realized that my grades weren't really that great before and I'm not really comfortable with blood, I'd probably grow immune to performing surgeries but before I'd even get to that point I'd feel like passing out every time. (probably)

The last visit I went along with for Andy, the vets had to probe inside that tiny gap and one of the nurses pointed out that I looked pale and to sit down. 

Also, I'm kind of content with being in a class that doesn't have that many kids, it's pretty nice. I'd probably have a hard time adjusting to a larger group and the exams would be harder. It was always a dream of mine, just unable to have that. 

Piper the senior doggie and mini Schnauzer?

I actually couldn't get on this site the last time I wanted to, and then I forgot! But reading that was really nice. I hope that I get to see Andy running like that too someday. sp_hearticon2 I also feel like it's a universal thing that Schnauzers sometimes just have short beards, which is actually really adorable. 

I'm not really good at talking about things like this, but I hope he's still playing fetch even now. 

 

Have you seen this? You will probably love it!

Oh I'd definitely love that! Unfortunately, don't own netflix anymore. I'm sure I can figure something out probably.. Seems really fun though!

 

I'm sorry for forgetting to share more, kinda just had alot of different things happen along with the school year starting. I'm really glad that everything's going well and more. I don't really know how I'd feel if I made a different choice back then. I'm frankly glad I made the choice I did, Andy deserves the world and more, so do my other fur babies!

This does remind me, my cat, Moon sometimes jumps out of my room! Previously, whenever he did, Mia and Toby would immediately go after him but now they let him and at most Mia barks. They're starting to maybe warm up to eachother again, which I'm happy about! Mia and Moon are the same age and in a way grew up together, so seeing Mia not attempting to maul Moon is actually really great. smiley9

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2 October 2024 - 10:09 am
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Hey it's so good to hear from you! Please don't feel like you have to apologize for not being here sooner, we get how busy life gets, and the important thing is that you are focused on your critters and giving them their best life.

About that protrusion from Andy. Have you mentioned it to the vet? What do they say? I would hate for that to develop an infection. And even though Andy may not look like he's in pain from it, if we put ourselves in our pet's place (or paws lol!), chances are good that if something similar was happening on our own body, we would not take it so well. Dogs are masters at hiding pain signals . So please if you haven't already let your vet know what's going on with that wound area OK?

We are so happy that all of the fur kids are all getting along these days!

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About that protrusion

We haven't gone to the vet. It's not like the bone is sticking out- It's more of that the skin is trying to get out but unable to because the skin heals faster. We've been keeping an eye on it and so far it doesn't seem like it could develop an infection.

When the scab first fell off I immediately treated it and then we worked on closing it. It fell off again but there wasn't blood this time around, so it's most likely okay(?) It doesn't look off to me at all since then.

The reason why I think it doesn't hurt is because normally Andy would already try to bite me or he'd immediately be warning me to not touch him.

He doesn't do that, or even acknowledge it, he didn't even when we were treating it either. pain signals are important yeah- except he shows things well especially when it bothers him. He'd growl immediately if I touched it, since he doesn't know how to whimper. But he didn't do that at all.

Me and mom had thought about why there was a scab in the first place and we thought that it might be because he slithers out of his bed and he specifically slithers bum first. Since the bone there tends to move about, we guessed that might be why. Not sure though. Other than that, the area is hard-like, so that's why we think the bone is there. Who knows if it is though. 

 

Another update, however!

Andy surprised us today. Andy tends to bark when mom is in the kitchen so I decided to pick him up with his bed and carry him there so that he wouldn't bark. 

Mom left the kitchen for a bit and before she did, Andy would bark at her except he wasn't in his bed and on the floor, facing away from said bed. (Normally, Andy stays that way unless someone puts him back on the bed)

So when Mom came back in the kitchen, Andy was somehow on his bed and facing the other way completely. Meaning, he somehow got in really well! Which we came up with two possible ideas as to how-

Either he stood up and walked to bed. Or he slithered his way back to bed. 

Either thing is really good because that means he can get in it on his own if he wants to! Which is great because sometimes both I and mom aren't home and lately it's been getting colder. I'm actually really happy about this though, I'm extremely proud of him!! 

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4 October 2024 - 10:29 am
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Oh my gosh Andy is DOING IT! Yes it does sound like he is able to move himself around and sit the way he wants to. This is great!

I think I get what you are saying about the bony area. Many dogs will have a partial amputation and what you are describing sounds pretty common. If he is not showing pain signals it's probably healing well (growling is just one, pay attention if you get near and he looks back at you, scrunches his face a little, puts his ears back, or crouches). As long as there is no inner skin layers exposed or bleeding, it does sound like it's on the mend. As always ask your vet if it's concerning. 

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4 October 2024 - 11:14 am
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YAAAAY. ANDY!!!!👏👏  

You are one strong and determine fella!  Keep on keepin' on Andy!  We are cheering for yoi!

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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