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11yr Springer. Front leg amputation or Arthrodesis?
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12 May 2023 - 2:29 pm
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Hi all,

To give some context our springer had a stress fracture in his right front leg joint which resulted in 4 failed operations to insert screws and plates. Sadly nearly a year later he has gone back in again due to suspected infection and we had a call mid-operation to say that all the work previously has failed as there is infection and it has stopped the bone healing and spread through the implants. 

Our two next options were arthrodesis or amputation. 

I always saw amputation as a no no as he is so energetic and I didn't want to take anything away. However I have seen how much metalwork goes into a leg when fusing the joint which looks brutal. He heys to keep the leg but for what? It's pinned, muscles atrophy and pain in cold weather.

That said. Until this happened he has not been in a cage but because of all the failed operations he has been cage rested for nearly 12months and I begin to ask myself if in fact postponing what feels like the inevitable is actually taking something away from his life as it sounds like a pretty rapid recovery.

If you compare weeks to the months of what we have had. Plus also the family too as I have converted the garage into a lovely office space and have slept by his cage now since the first day he arrived home. Meanwhile my fiancee has essentially being the epitome of a war wife, looking after our three year old whilst I am away fighting this battle with no end in sight. 

Has anyone else ever faced the option of having a joint fused vs amputation?

 

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13 May 2023 - 12:05 pm
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Hi Christopher, welcome. Sorry your post took so long to get approved. Your future posts won't need to wait for approval so post away!

I'm sorry your dog has been in this situation, poor guy. He sounds like an otherwise spry and healthy pup! I see why you are hesitant to do either procedure.

Others have faced this decision before. All the complications and issue you point out about arthrodesis are spot on.

You can see what one of the world's best board certified vet surgeons, Dr. Sherman Canapp and his vet rehab therapist wife/practice partner has to say about arthrodesis, in this interview, Pet Prosthetics and Braces Questions and Answers, Part 2. 

Keep in mind that they were discussing the procedure for a dog who was already a Tripawd, but the issues they point out are the same for a four-legged dog.

[0:50:53] What about joint fusion surgery for a rear-leg Tripawd with arthritis?

DR. SHERMAN CANAPP: Just say no.

DR. DEBRA CANAPP: Just say no. Do everything you possibly can to avoid it. I mean there is a place for arthrodesis but I think we’ve done maybe like count on one, maybe one and a half hands, because we really tried to avoid it.

DR. SHERMAN CANAPP: Line up 10 surgeons giving a 10 different answers but I tend to be very conservative and holistic and think outside the box. You can always do surgery but you can’t undo surgery. And whether you’re fusing a wrist or fusing an ankle or a carpus or tarsus, they are plagued with complications. Complications of joint fusion surgery include:

  • You are mobilizing this limb. You don’t have a whole lot of soft tissue here, your wrist or your ankle so it rubs on the soft tissues. They can break them down.
  • The screws can fall out. They can get infected.
  • It’s cold-sensitivity. You’re out in the snow or in the cold, you have no soft tissues here when they are walking and the metal very quickly gets cold. They can break.

I had one where I did a carpal fusion. The dog was in a cabin with his owner up in Vermont. There was a bear. The dog tried to get the bear. The plate broke in half. Things can happen. There are so many great orthopedic devices now. These support wraps and hinged wraps and braces and things that if it was my own dog, I would try 19 different ones of those before I would ever throw a plate in my dog’s ankle or wrist. 

I just would not do them anymore. I have seen so many complications, and not necessarily my complications. I never say, “Oh, I’m a carpal surgeon.” I see – we all have – I’ve had mine.

When you do this also, again, you’re putting metal and they swell, so they need to be ready to have leeches available because if you have too much swelling in the wrist like a tourniquet, all of a sudden, you can lose toes, you can have skin slough.

Joint fusions: just say No

The bottom line is, I’m not a big fan. Now, the surgeon she is probably chatting with is a probably a huge fan maybe because they have done it a million of these.

I just would rather go with an orthotic, perhaps some sort of device that gives some support but doesn’t fully lock out the wrist or the ankle. Because it’s like a spinal fusion, you fuse here, we have domino effect. All of a sudden, you have an issue here. You fuse here, domino effect. The same with fusions in the back, spinal surgeons are so quick to fuse on the human side where you could have it just as good outcome with PT.

I would rather this person, and thank you for being a VOSM patient, I would rather you try a bunch of different support wraps before you think about fusion.


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14 May 2023 - 6:21 am
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Thank you so much for the response. It comes at just the right time. Wilfred just arrived home, clearly in pain but happy to be home.

The implant on the top in the picture and also the bolt have now been removed and as a consequence of the infection the leg is back to square one but only worse as to where we were 10 months ago. With it being a complex joint fracture and taking into account the 10 months of suffering and the overwhelming evidence for complications on fusing the joint (your kind points also taken into account) we seem to be reaching a decision to amputate.

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14 May 2023 - 6:23 am
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Sorry that image didn't work so I'll post the link

https://ibb.co/7zLdv69

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15 May 2023 - 9:59 am
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Oh yikes that looks painful.

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(I just copied the image and pasted it here, for future reference).

Amputation seems like such a brutal decision when we have so much technology today. I know it's hard to not to struggle with this, everyone does. I will tell you though, that in my other life I write for a magazine geared toward human amputee patients. The patients I've interviewed who had an "elective" amputation (versus multiple repairs that might not take), all say that they were glad they made the decision to get rid of the bad limb and get on with life. I do believe that if dogs in this situation could talk, they would say the same thing. 

Please let us know what questions you have and how we can help. I hope Wilfred is taking some good pain control right now so he can be as comfortable as possible.

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