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Hi, I am a first time visitor to this site. I have read many stories and am encouraged. I have a male Leonberger three weeks short of 7 years old, Odin, who was just diagnosed with Osteosarcoma. There is a tumor in his front left leg. I have a to make a decision many on this site have already made. Other than the tumor, which has not spread, Odin is in great health. He is a strong, 154 lb ball of love. Does anyone have any experinece with amputation and Leonbergers? I would love to hear from you. He and I are meeting with the doctors on Tuesday and surgery is scheduled for Wednesday. I would like to hear your opinons as to the pro's and con's of entering into the arena of amputation. Thank you so much.
Jon
Hello and welcome to Tripawds, your future posts will not require moderation.
I'm sorry you have found yourself here with a cancer diagnosis for Odin. I can't help you with size as my Tripawd was a 17 pound pug- probably about the size of Odin's head!
I know we have had many large or giant breed dogs here that did very well. Two I can think of, Cemil a 150 lb Anatolian Shepard, and Queen Nova, a Great Dane, are each over 3 years past their amps for OSA. I see Cemil every couple of months and he is doing great.
I don't know if we have had any other Leonbergers here- maybe someone else will remember.
If Odin is otherwise healthy, full of life, and the vet thinks he is a good candidate he will probably do fine as a tripawd. Until I came here I'm not sure I would believe big dogs can do well, but having seen it over and over here, and in person I am a believer!
You have to decide what is best for you and Odin. We are here to offer help and support no matter what decision you make. Cancer sucks no matter how many legs you have- the journey is just a bit easier with a support group.
Karen and the pugapalooza
Welcome to Tripawds! Sorry to hear about the C diagnosis. Our Bo was a 100 lbs yellow lab with OSA. A front left amp as well. He was not as big as Odin, but there are many giant breed dogs on here that have proceeded with amputation. I'm sure they will weigh in too.
As far as pros ad cons, the biggest driver in our decision was the issue of pain. OSA is excruciatingly painful and we were told that the amp would take that pain away. It did. The day of surgery Bo painfully hopped to the car. I never saw that look of pain in his eye again. Surgery recovery is a roller coaster ride and it takes most dogs a good 2 weeks before they start feeling better.
You have found an amazing group of people at Tripawds and we will be here to support you with whatever you decide. Keep us posted!
Meghan & Angel Bo
My dog was just diagnosed on Monday. He is a sharpei lab mix and is 81 pounds. He is only 8 years old. It sounds like his case is like urs. We caught it early they told us the tumor is about a month old and the cancer did not spread. His bone hasn't broke or fractured yet. He had a very small bump and was limping so we took him to get X-rays. They gave us pain meds and a pill for the cancer. He is going in Saturday to have his front left paw amputated and after he will start chemo. Good luck and I will keep him in my prayers. I truly believe if caught early and treated our dogs will be fine.
Cindy
I have not seen any other Leonbergers on this site but we have had many other dogs in the mastiff family including Cane Corsos, a Dogue de Bordeaux, and several English Mastiffs, Bullmastiffs and Great Danes and most have done very well. My Mastiff Tazzie lost her RF leg and lived another 14 months. I would not hesitate to do it again because her quality of life remained high and we were lucky that she sailed through the carboplatin chemo injections without any problems.
Pam
Hi Jon, welcome. We're sorry about Odin's diagnosis, it's such a shock to get that kind of news.
Rest assured we've had lots of giant breed dogs here do just fine on three legs. Not every recovery goes without any side-effects, but for the most part they do well and have a great quality of life afterward.
There have been a couple of Leos in the community but none who are active right now (try searching the forums for Leonberger). I do have a friend, Stephanie Lucero in Colorado, who is on Facebook and her Leo faced bone cancer and thrived for a long time. You can do a search for her and tell her I sent you. She is also in the Bone Cancer Dogs group.
Also, check our "Size and Age Matters" forum for more discussions about giant breed dogs on three legs.
We hope the coming weeks go well and Odin can get back to loving life. Leos are such sweet dogs, I'm sure he will do great!
P.S. Tazziedog is a vet and she had a lot of experience with giant breed tripawds as you can tell.
Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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Hello Jon and welcome! Words can't explain how sorry I am about Odin's diagnosis. I am new to this community as well and I don't have a large breed such as Odin but I do have a 105lb Ridgeback mix. Guinness had his right front limb removed one week ago today. He has been home now for five days and despite a few bumps, he is doing as well as expected. He is pretty drugged up but is able to hop along, and do his business.
I know how difficult this decision has been for you but you are in GREAT company. Best of luck to you and I look forward to your posts. You and Odin are in my prayers and thoughts.
Thank you all so much for responding. I am usually not a big believer in things happen for a reason, but.....I received a call yesterday morning, as I was lying on the couch with Odin talking over the situation, saying the surgeon had a cancellation and if I had made a decision, and Odin didn't eat breakfast, they would perform the amputation. Having spoken to several Doctors and done a lot of research, Odin went through with the amputation. I picked him up at noon today. I can't thank this site enough for preparing me for seeing him the first time. I was able to hug him and praise him without having to be shocked by the sight of his shaved body and grusome incision. He seemed so happy when he saw me and my fiance. He is still very unsteady!!!! He has been home for about 8 hours. He is eating an drinking and very alert. And resting much more comfortably at home than at the hospital.
I struggled to get him outside to pee but there was nothing doing. He did fall once and I felt terrible, but I counted to three and he and I got him back up. He seems so happy when I tell him he can do it and that he is doing great. He smiles and his tail wags and he tries to bounce like he normally does. Getting back into the house he was able to hop a few steps but it is mostly me carrying him with the help of two slings. In the next few days I am hoping he can get a bit more stable on his three legs to help me just a bit more.
How are trips to the bathroom the first few days? Urinating and then having bowelmovements?
I can't thank everyone enough for this site and your responses to my story. I hope to be giving you updates on Odin for years to come.
Bathroom trips vary from dog to dog. Sometimes they take a day or so to urinate and I have seen some members post that it took five or six days for poop. The anesthesia really does a number on their internal workings and it can take a bit for things to get 'moving' again, plus his stance has changed for squatting to poop and it will take him some time to figure out a new normal.
The next week or so may be rough, but hang in there!
Lisa
Zeus was a Husky mix diagnosed with Osteosarcoma at age 11. A visible lung met and suspicious spot on his liver meant a poor prognosis-six weeks was our vet's best guess. We decided to fight for our boy and his right front leg was amputated on 12/1/11. We did six rounds of chemo, changed his diet and spoiled him completely rotten. We were blessed with 10 great months after diagnosis. Against the odds, the lung met remained a single met and grew very little over those months. A wonderful furbaby with the most gentle spirit, he fought with a strength that we never imagined he possessed. We have no regrets...
http://zeuspod......pawds.com/
Hi! So sorry to hear about Odin. My husband and I were right where you were about three weeks ago. Two months ago, our lab mix Tucker, almost 10 years old was diagnosed with bone cancer in the upper part of his left leg. Our main vet thought that we should keep him comfortable and wasn't very enthusiastic about amputation. We decided that since he was older we did not want to put him through a lot and decided to do nothing but give him pain meds until the time was right to say goodbye. A few weeks later we ended up taking him to a specialist in Salt Lake who retested the cancer and after learning that his chest was clear of tumors, and the cancer seemed to be a less aggressive form the doctor urged us to amputate. My husband thought it wasn't fait to Tucker to put him through that and believed that the recovery would be horrible. I was in favor, or at least willing to try, since i had been around many three-legged dogs in the past, but he needed more convincing. After I sent him to the Tripawds website, and forums and after he spoke to other families of tripawds he was convinced we should try this and we scheduled the appointment right away. we had four different vets tell us how horribly painful the bone cancer is and we could see Tucker's pain every day. The pain of the amputation was to be nothing near what he was enduring with the cancer. The day after surgery he PULLED me out of the vet office on his three legs! I was shocked! The sutures were removed 2 weeks later. He was slow and tired for most of the first week 1/2, but being on pain meds were part of that as well. Now on a low dose of pain meds he is almost back to his old self. He tires easily and can only go on very short walks not quite around the block for now. But he is only 3 weeks out from the amputation. We struggled so much to find the right thing to do, and now we believe that taking that painful leg was a good decision. I am so glad that you decided to do this with Odin. I think he will adjust well, and there will be a learning curve, as our Tucker is discovering! Dogs live in the now- they adjust quicker than we can.
tuckermanfamily said
...he is almost back to his old self.
Welcome Tucker and pack! Your future forum posts will not require moderation. Nice chatting with you, please consider starting a new topic or blog to share your progress.
Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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Just want to update everyone. Odin took his first steps last night and again this morning when he walked to his bowl and ate standing up!!!!! That moment, as you all know, was big for us. He is getting comfortable around the house....he doesn't move much, but he is willing to. Outside is an entirely different story....he is very nervous and unsteady. He still hasn't urinated...but I've been told when he has to go he will go. I know we have some long days ahead but we are thinking positive and moving forward each small victory at a time.
I'm so glad that Odin is rid of that nasty leg. It sounds like he is off to a great start. We are here to help if we can.
Karen and Spirit Magnum
Magnum: 30th May 2002 to 5th May 2012. Lost her back left leg to osteosarcoma on 5th Sep 2011. Lung mets found on 20th Mar 2012 but it was bone mets in the hip that ended her brave battle. Magnum's motto - "Dream as if you'll live for ever, live as if you'll die today" (James Dean). Loyal, loving, courageous and spirited to the end. My beloved heart dog, see her memoirs from Rainbow Bridge ...... http://princess.....pawds.com/
Hi Jon,
Sounds like Odin is right on track. He will pee when he needs to, sometimes the poop is several days coming. The pain meds can be constipating. Maggie didn't poop until day 6.
Is it slippery outside or is the ground uneven? New tripawds especially need good traction and a stable walking surface to build confidence. It is so scary to see our pups fall. Right after Mag's surgery she would fall and not want to get back up (she was a rear amp). I really had to coax her to try again. Eventually falling on her butt became no big deal, she even developed a fall-to-a-sit maneuver she used to change directions on slippery surfaces.
And if I may act as a Moderator for a moment- you might consider starting a new thread for Odin in the Treatment and Recovery forum since you are past the decision making part. It helps other members keep track of where you are. I know you have your hands full right now, so staying here is fine too if that works better.
I hope Odin's recovery continues uneventfully.
Karen and the pugapalooza
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