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possible genetic link? maybe?
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12 June 2013 - 7:07 pm
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so, I've been on here almost non-stop since I found out my 175 lb saint Bernard, chuck has osteosarcoma. although we are still unsure of our path due to his size, and are waiting to make a final decision when we have him evaluated by a specialist on tues,I wanted to share something that happened to me in my search for information and personal stories of others with saint Bernard s who have gone through the same thing.

I have literally been everywhere online looking for information, personal stories, etc. Facebook, here, and I even posted a picture on instagram of chuck, tagged it to stbernard, aplaceforsaints, etc.

a few days go by, and I get a message from a person halfway across the country from me, saying her saint just passed from the same, etc, then tells me mine looks a lot like hers. she tells me that though she's in Boston, she got her saint in Illinois.
so did I.
then she asked me what breeder, and low and behold, it's the same as mine
the she asks me if his mom was zuzu, and wouldn't you know, that's my dogs mom.
I found his sister in this journey. she died of osteosarcoma two weeks before my big guys diagnosis.

And with that I just felt I should share what happened. I know there is no solid research on the genetic link, but this has honestly made me wonder.

anyway, in the meantime all this is giving me some peace. I know no matter my path, I will ultimately choose the one that was ment for me.
I hope this story helps someone the way it helped me

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12 June 2013 - 8:05 pm
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Wow, that is really interesting!  My dog was a "mutt," so we didn't know parents, siblings, or anyone else related to him.  I don't know if there's a link either, but it seems like it would be something to mention to your vet and oncologist.  I bet they would find it interesting too.  

I don't know if you've searched around the forums here, but you will find plenty of posts/blogs about large sized dogs who have gone through this also.   I know you're concerned about Chuck's size, but there are plenty of big boys and girls who have gotten along just fine.  In fact, there was just a blog entry yesterday on Cemil, a 150# Anatolian Shepherd who is now a 4-year osteo survivor!  My husband and I see Cemil about once a year, and he is amazing and still going strong!  

Good luck to Chuck, please update your boy's story when you can!  Until then, we'll be keeping Chuck in our thoughts and prayers!

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12 June 2013 - 10:37 pm
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I've learned osteosarcoma is most common in large to giant breeds (60 lbs+). "German shepherd had the highest incidence (of osteosarcoma), followed by the Great Dane, Saint Bernard, boxer, Irish setter, Labrador retriever, Doberman pinscher, and collie." Knowing that some breeds are more susceptable than others, there has to be some genetic influence going on, unfortunately.

I wish you luck with your appointment next week. My girl Athena isn't a giant dog like your boy is (she was 104 lbs at time of surgery), but I was definitely concerned about her hip displaysia and arthritis and wondering just how she would cope. I was so afraid that she would not be able to walk again after having her front left leg removed. But she has proven me wrong of course and now runs and plays and acts like a normal happy dog again! Yes the first few weeks of recovery might be rough, especially because of his size, but I know others have referred you to all the other giant breed dogs on this forum who had amputations, like Cemil mentioned above. Good luck!

04/09/13- OSA Diagnosis ~ 04/23/13- Left Forelimb Amputation ~ Carboplatin Chemo (6 total)

 

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13 June 2013 - 4:51 am
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Purely anecdotal evidence for you...
my dog is a mixed breed--his mother was a GSD/dobie cross; his father was a purebred Akita. Both of them had OSA. (Although he was much older at diagnosis)

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13 June 2013 - 7:22 am
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I'm so sorry for both you and the other gal who went to the same breeder. I'm not surprised, unfortunately. When a breeder has produced a dog that is diagnosed with a cancer like osteo, that entire line is supposed to be spayed/neutered so that the gene does not reproduce (at least that's what I've read). Irresponsible breeders continue breeding despite this rule. Grrrrr.

Meanwhile, do keep in mind that we have seen dogs from chihuahuas to Saints come down with osteosarcoma, and a range of mixed-breeds as well. Unfortunately no dog is safe from cancer. Some day though....

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13 June 2013 - 12:49 pm
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I heard & read the same thing Rene.  But a lot of breeders (not reputable) still continue to breed.  Which is sad because the next set of dogs end up with the Cancer, & the gene continues to be passed on

 

 

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05/04/2006 -  Bosch, Sassy's pal, earned his wings 03/29/19  fought cancer for 4 months.

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13 June 2013 - 1:35 pm
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That's why backyard breeders make me so sad. My s-i-l just lost her one-year-old lab to a liver shunt, of what is believed to be the inheritable type. Other pups in that litter were so sick as babies they didn't survive (in fact, they ended up with this dog b/c the one they wanted ended up being sick).

Good, responsible breeders want nothing more than to preserve the health and future of the breed and work with dogs who uphold the breed standard. Irresponsible ones just want to make puppies to sell off (or...want to do that and breed dogs that are larger and more massive than the standard, etc.). :(

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