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Juno’s story so far...
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27 September 2023 - 10:48 am
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Karen, I had the same thought about barking when I saw the windows! I'm sure dogs either love or hate them. Tempest could probably handle them but Loki would lose her damned mind. 

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@jerry - OMD - Really looking forward to reading up on Shilo and Dexter’s stories! That’s the amazing thing about science - because of the cumulative efforts of so many researcher and participants you get this long chain of contribution stretching to todays efforts and advances and beyond that into the future… I’m also looking forward to following up on the translational/comparative links you sent!

Re: the doggie windows - Yes, I’d never seen them before either! Her regular oncologist and primary vet don’t have them. Truth be told, it’s hard to say what she found so interesting as it looked out into the nearly empty, cavernous lobby. (A lobby that looked a bit like a cross between some sort of high end spa and and a sci-fi research facility where you might present yourself to be cryogenically frozen. It was a curious place.)

As far as being a fear-free design, I’m not sure as I’ll have to look into the details of what that means. What they did do which was pretty cool was only take June away into the back treatment areas for the minimum time to do the tests or treatment, but then brought her back to us whenever there needed to be a pause between things. In this way she always had bits of decompress-time with us between things. And any basic vitals they could do in the exam room with us, or with minimal contact, they did.

 

@mischief & Karen - yes, it’s hard to see it in the photo, but there is definite evidence around the window frame of “damned minds lost.” Truth be told, if the right kind of dog had come along, June would have had words too. Ideally, there would be a way to slide it shut for dogs who would be stressed out by it. (Maybe they have other rooms with solid doors?!?)

 

Karen - I’ve always admired Caira Sue’s photo - so athletic! Really cool to hear about her earlier contributions as a Dog of Science. Is HO Hypertrophic Osteopathy? Is the trial she was in similar to or related to one I recently heard about coming out of U Penn? …sorry to say, I don’t know details other than that it was related to treating children.

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Yesterday and today our backyard became a proprioception masterclass. In the fall our black walnut tree drops most of it’s baseball-sized, flesh-covered nuts in the space of about two to three days, and most of that happened in the past two!

Also, check out that beefy leg! We used to call June “chicken legs” because of her twiggy, stilt-like legs, but now she’s got quite a drumstick on her!

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27 September 2023 - 6:32 pm
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baseball-sized, flesh-covered nuts 

Thank you - I needed that laugh! 

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27 September 2023 - 7:20 pm
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OMD, my pleasure! 🤣🤣🤣

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Here are a couple of June’s home workouts, as promised. I’d mentioned that our living room now converts at a moment’s notice into a canine gym, thanks to a key set of equipment Juno's Certified Canine Rehab Therapist / Fitness Therapist (CCRT/CCFT) recommended. (I’ll list them below along with the low-cost DIY versions she suggests.)

My gosh, video keeps you humble and teaches you a lot as a dog trainer! Also, we have to be sensitive that this work is not like a lot of trick training in that a dog’s skipping over or rushing through certain things can indicate that the sustained strength or stamina for that skill is not there yet.

The catching game you’ll see is one June’s therapist likes to use for dogs who know how to catch food as it tests their balance and builds core strength, all while demanding a lot of mental focus. (The “treats” we’re using are just her regualar mealtime kibble portion - which allows us to be this liberal with it!)

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June’s CCRT/CCFT’s “desert island” set of canine fitness equipment (i.e., if you were stranded on a desert island and could only bring x number of things…) and their DIY alternatives:

  • Balance board - note that this is different than a wobble board (can be made from a 30” x 30” sheet of plywood or MDF wrapped in a yoga mat and using a 2in, half-round, 24” length of handrail for the fulcrum on the bottom)
  • Aerobic step - without the risers (the ‘90s human kind - often cheap on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace)
  • Cato Board (or made as a low wooden box with a piece of yoga mat on top and rubber feet on the bottom)
  • Fitdisc - 22" (probably the only thing you may want to buy rather than make, but in a pinch a good thick cushion or pillow will work) We accidentally ended up with a Fitbone, but world recommend the Fitdisc as it’s more versatile.
  • A rolled up towel to prop up one end of the balance board in order to vary the difficulty (though we ended up springing for a foam Balance Pad for this purpose, and in order to make other tasks easier, but it’s not strictly necessary.)

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What an awesome set of workout equipment, you could open a doggy daycare gym. And I think you look like a very confident trainer smiley16

I love the exercise you're showing her do. How often a day, and for how many minutes, does Juno work out? She looks so strong!

We also use Nellie's meal kibble for her exercises. It's one way to keep those calories down.

If anyone's interested, we have a DIY wobble/buja board pattern here. The Tripawds Gear shop has fitness gear as well, we're happy to answer any questions about it.

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3 October 2023 - 6:38 pm
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What an awesome set of workout equipment, you could open a doggy daycare gym.

Haha! The best thing about it all is that it fits neatly behind both couches….where no one will ever know. 🤫

How often a day, and for how many minutes, does Juno work out? She looks so strong!

Both of us have the good fortune of working from home/near home much of the week, so since she came to us at a year and a half old we’ve trained her twice a day with her two kibble portions (morning and evening) just as many minutes as it took to get through that meal's kibble.

Since her recovery and beginning rehab/fitness we started doing a lighter session of sits, downs, stands, spins, chins, and paws (light stuff she already knew how to do) in the morning because the major rehab exercises and a short morning walk back to back were too much for her. So we split her total daily kibble into three portions (morning, noon, evening) and gave her the rehab training at midday and in the evening.

We’ve just sort of retained that schedule and added another short walk in the evening after her stamina was up to it. (We also save out a very small portion of her kibble for one of her brain game puzzles in the afternoon because she’s always gotten a little stir crazy around then and needs a challenge.)

She’s a girl who loves to work! …and her rehab/fitness skills are totally blowing us away. We see them show up in so many areas of daily life.

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4 October 2023 - 5:47 am
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I don't know if I'm more impressed by June's handling of the wobble board or yours!  I am skilled at many things, but coordination isn't one of them haha.  I don't think I could handle dog training while balancing on a wobble board without landing on my ass.

I'm curious what the difference between the aerobic step and the cato board are.  They both seem like a slightly elevated, stable platform.  I saw you used one in each video, but the purpose seemed similar.

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4 October 2023 - 11:15 am
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I like that you split up her kibble into 3 portions, instead of just two as we've been doing. Do you ever find that she's not as wiling to work as hard for kibble? 

Nellie has gotten into such a habit of eating her 2 daily meals out of her slow feeder puzzle. I have to reserve enough food each day to put in the feeder, as well as for her fitness sessions. Most times it's filled with more fruits and veggies not kibble, but it's still a challenge not to overfeed he!

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@mischief - yes, I’m really tempting the fates with that move. I’ll tell you if/when it bites me in the bum.icon_lol

Good question about the two boards. Some of the exercises she’s learned use two solid boards so we use both of them then. She also first learned to pivot (front feet on board, hind foot hoping 360 around the board) and other front-feet-only skills on the Cato board because it was smaller, and then does some all-legged gait collection exercises on the aero step (all legs on from the end, all legs of from the side - both sides).

Beyond that there could be more uses/differences but we’re still learning. During the second session with our CCRT I just asked if there was a basic set up that might get us through most things (having realized that the world of canine fitness equipment was...large) and this was the set she recommended so the cool thing is, she designs all Junes tasks to work with this set. That said, if we’d had to work with a slimmer set, I’m sure she could have totally done that too.

@jerry - she’s pretty happy to work for kibble in familiar environments (like home and the yard). In fact during recovery when her appetite was poor we could sometimes trick her into eating by making her do really modest things like “touch.” It seems that to her, food tastes better when she earns it. (Total working dog at heart.) In harder or new environments we definitely use higher value things.

Yes - June gets a puzzle a day too and would beg for it if we didn't give it, so I know the feeling of spreading a modest amount of kibble over a lot of activities! I feel you about the overfeeding. We had to do a lot of tweaking post-amp to find the right food level for her again.

I envy your habit of feeding veg - that’s so great. June’s never really been into plant material other than grass, but after watching that video with Ranger’s story that you linked in the Yale Vaccine blog post, I’m inspired to try that fellow’s approach of beginning with cooked (some of which I know she will eat!).

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4 October 2023 - 5:13 pm
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I love that your therapist gears Juno's training to the equipment you have at home! I've been thinking about ordering a wobble board for years (like pre-Loki) and I am not convinced I'll use it enough for the cost. Tempest, who is a very athletic dog, is extremely wary of stepping on things that flex or wobble under her. She's my go anywhere do anything dog, as long as nothing wobbles lol. And obviously Loki could benefit. 

I forgot to mention this earlier but I love that you linked Clean Run. They have such cool stuff! They are local-ish and I told their warehouse is very fun to visit, but I haven't gotten there yet. I got Loki the best tug toy there last year... She goes wild for the sheepskin, but the cage prevents her from de-fluffing it. 

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4 October 2023 - 5:35 pm
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@mischief - June definitely thought both the Fitbone and balance board were some strange new evil when she met them.

In fact the reason we “accidentally” ended up with a Fitbone rather than a Fitdisc is that at the very first consult our CCRT introduced us to a few exercises (most of which June would not do there on the spot) and it became apparent to me that the Fitbone she introduced was going to be the biggest issue for June (she would barely go near it!), so I ordered one and we spent from then until the next session (three weeks) gradually getting her to be near it, touch it, put a paw on it, briefly stand on it…etc. We finally nailed it on the last day before the next session. The balance board was a similar story.

Our CCRT likes the balance board because it is a more isolated, less random movement that you can further control with side props, so for a nervous dog it could be the better way to go if you do decide to splash out on one.

I loooove Clean Run. (Sealed with a pooch smooch!) The first trainer we ever worked with introduced us to them. June’s bunny fur tug (discontinued it appears) and harness are both early purchases from there. I even bought a pack of pelts to periodically re-fur the tug, as she similarly liked to strip it. OMD, I’d love to see their warehouse.

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4 October 2023 - 5:58 pm
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I have a FitBone and it mostly sits on a shelf... I bought it with good intentions as a not too scary thing thst might flex and wobble a bit for Tempest. I've used it with both dogs and they aren't scared of it, luckily. 

As Loki ages, I'm sure I'll invest more into some fitness stuff. It's one of the weird parts of having a young tripawd - she is likely in the best physical condition that she ever will be in her life right now. 

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4 October 2023 - 6:07 pm
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It's one of the weird parts of having a young tripawd - she is likely in the best physical condition that she ever will be in her life right now. 

@mischief - yeah I suppose with so many stories here of dogs becoming tripawds in later life, and often via cancer, there’s a definite contrast when your day-to-day tripawd experience is with such a young, healthy dog!

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Yesterday Juno had her second dose of the Yale EGFR/HER2 immunotherapy vaccine. We’ll be back again in three weeks for them to take a serum sample to mail off to Yale (something they do with each visit to see how her body is responding).

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Once again, her main interest was the “doggo tv” (doggo level window) in the exam room and because the lobby outside was more full and hopping than the last time, the programming was especially good.

We always bring treats to vet visits to make them a bit sweeter and more enjoyable. For the Yale visits we also bring a blanket from the car as a bed for June, as we need to wait in the exam room for 30min after they administer the vaccine for an observation period. (The oncologist said the study advises a 30min - 3hr observation period, but she said they’ve seen no adverse reactions at their clinic or in the earlier 600 dog study so can’t imagine keeping a dog and hoooman there for three hours!)

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As we were there, the conversation came around to the fact that June’s been doing rehab and we’d seen huge improvements in her ability to tackle uneven or inclined surfaces, maintain her balance and footing while running, and even catch herself and recover when she starts to slip or skid. The oncologist hadn’t seen much need to refer her amputation patients to a rehab specialist after surgery especially if like Juno, they had been generally getting around pretty well.

However, after our chat she was really interested in sending her amputees (and even some quadpawds) to rehab. She asked if the dog needed to be particularly smart or well-trained to benefit and we said no, as the therapist suits the treatment to each dog’s needs and nature. We mentioned that Tripawds will help cover a first visit for amputees, if that was helpful, and she was relieved to hear this.

Indeed, she said she often sends folks who are on the fence about amputation to Tripawds to look at the videos of other dogs living life well on three. She said her favorite video was of a front leg amputee German Shepherd dog (Jerry??) happily running up a hill and back.

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By the end of the visit, June was passed out on her blanket in the corner of the exam room and ready to go home. She resumed her nap in the car on the way back. …but immediately perked up, ready for lunch and rehab exercises when we got home!

Natalie & Juno (aka June)

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