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Great Dane with bone cancer - what to do?
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30 October 2008 - 8:34 am
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My little baby 6.5 year old great dane has been diagnosed with osteo sarcoma on her left front leg. 

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Vet wasn't overly positive about out come. 1-2 months without treatment and 6-12 months with amputation and radiotherapy.

Do dogs actually have any change of getting better from this or is it just extending their life? And if just extending is it really worth it for them to go through amputation and everything else? I'm really scared for making decision just for me that I don't want to let go yet.

She is small for dane only about 55kg and other wise healthy. So I guess she would be better with 3 legs than some of the bigger ones. Also should mention that her lungs looked clear. But she did not react well for being left to the vets for a day, she been whinging since then if I don't have her next to me. First night had to sleep first part of the night downstairs and for rest of the night had to take her in bed to try to get some sleep.

Also I did notice that this is mainly us site and we're from uk but I quess it's still a same thing. 

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30 October 2008 - 11:03 am
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Nindri, sorry to hear of your great dane's diagnosis.
Osteosarcoma is very aggressive and brutaly painful.

Without amputation, the dog would have to be on pain meds, gradually heavier and heavier pain meds until no more pain meds can be of any help any more.  In some cases, the bone, gradually eaten away by the cancer, could break very easily.  By then, the decision would still have to be made.

Amputation is not a cure, the primary reason to do that is to get rid of the pain from the tumor site.  Hopefully leading to some more pain-free quality months or even years.   With amputation, the dog is at least given a chance to fight.

Statistically, when a dog starts to limp becuase of OS, the cancer has already spreaded, lungs are the most common place where it would spread to.  Microscopic spread sometimes might not be shown on chest x-ray.  Chemotherapy usually follows in hoping to kill the remnants.

Most dogs do very well recovering, but the first two weeks post-op is always a challenge.  Once they get over that hill, things will be looking better and better.

There are quite a number of giant breed tripawd members in this forum.  They will share their experience of caring their big dogs after the surgery.  Hope that you will get enough information to help make the decision.

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30 October 2008 - 12:04 pm
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Hi,

 Genies' post just about covered it all. I would like to add there is  a member on here, Darcy, who is from the UK as well. She could be of help. I would only use an orthopedic surgeon and an oncologist. They know what tests to do also. Teaching hospitals usually cover all bases. There is a large breed category on here as well... Tazzie dog for instance.

I'm glad you found us. Don't fret, we have all been down this road. I hope you find this site as supportive and wonderful as I have. I don't think I could of made this journey alone. She is looks like a real sweatheart. Sorry for the diagnoses, but start looking into your options asap for her sake.

Kim&Buster

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30 October 2008 - 12:20 pm
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Oh what a face!!! She is beautiful. I agree with everything that Genie and Kim had to say.

I had a very difficult time making my decision as well. I received the diagnosis on Thursday evening, April 3rd and it was confirmed by an oncologist on Friday with the options that you have been given and Genie spelled out (what will happen if it goes untreated).

For 3 days, all I thought about was this. I exhausted internet information and other resources (my best friend is a vet and another dear friend is also a vet). By Sunday night, I still didn't know what to do but I was told that time was of the essence. So...I asked Zeus. He was laying on the bed and I explained the situation to him - on some level he had to have understood me. After I explained it all to him and asked him what he wanted to do, he jumped off the bed, chased his tail around in circles, grabbed his favorite toy and whipped it around a bit...went to the window and starting barking and then looked back at me as if to say, "I want to live". We amputated that following Wednesday on April 9th.

Almost 7 months later he is happy, alive, pain free and enjoying everything he used to except hour long walks. I would do it all again. I have learned so many life lessons from him...the time has been priceless and worth all the fear, struggle and financial cost. That's my experience though...my purpose in writing this to you is to tell you to listen to your heart and your sweet girl. Get quiet with her and tell her what is going on...then pray and your answer should come.

If amputation is not the right path for whatever reason...that's OK, only you can answer this question. Keep her comfortable and pain free as long as possible and enjoy each moment. If you decide to move forward with amputation, it will be a difficult 2 weeks after the surgery. Read the stories, ask questions...we will be here for you to help you on this journey. Whatever you decide...have no regrets.

Many prayers and much love,

Heather and Zeus

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30 October 2008 - 1:24 pm
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Thanks for joining the discussion Nindri! Just so you know, the biggest inspiration my people had to proceed with – and cope with – my amputation was Moose, a big beautiful Harlequin Great Dane. Search for his story in the blog!

And to answer your question, amputation is the only way to free dogs of the pain and keep the cancer from getting worse. But yes, osteosarcoma will come back, in time. How much time is hard to tell as every dog is differnet, but after a brief recuperation, amputation can esure that is quality time!

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30 October 2008 - 5:46 pm
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Hi and welcome.  We are in the UK (Manchester area).  Where are you?

Darcy celebrated her 1st year ampuvarsary on 16th of this month.  We took the chance and it's paying off so far.  The statsistics (as you know) show that it will come back but I do know of some dogs who have had osteo and have lived up to 6 years, died old happy dogs and their death was nothing to do with cancer at all.  I just always try to remember the fact that some dogs will do well and I hope and pray that mine (and yours - and everyones here) is one of those lucky ones.

If you want to chat on the phone, I'm happy to do that.  If you go to my website http://www.dogsndubs.com and click the contact us button, send me your landline number (if you have one) and I'll give you a call Laughing

(Linda and Alfie - if you are reading - don't dare laugh - and don't dare tell anyone that we've both been trying for more than a month to actually have a telephone conversation with each other!!  LOLOL).

Darcy – tripawd since 16th October 2007.

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30 October 2008 - 6:54 pm
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Thank you for everyone for your suportive and informative posts. I've done lots of reading about cancer and other peoples experiences inc Moose's and I think we've decited to go to amputation route.

Hope everything goes well for her.

I'm sure I'll be back for lots of questions 🙂

Hi Bevd!

I'll have a look at your website, would be great to have a chat. We're near Luton.

xxx  



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30 October 2008 - 7:38 pm
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I would agree that your dog looks to be a good candidate for amputation. She is in good shape and not too big!  We left our Mastiff Tazzie in the hospital for 4 days post-amp and she was able to walk well and go to the bathroom by herself the next day. Your dog might not need to stay that many days.

Good luck!  We will be here to answer any questions that you might have.

Pam and Tazzie

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31 October 2008 - 12:31 am
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Nindri

Ditto to everything above. My bull mastiff Titan (almost 6yrs old) had amputation on his front leg August 4th. He is doing fantastic. He was 135 lbs before surgery and is 118 now. We are working on him losing a couple of pounds. I know there were quite a few people who didn't think we should do it including are vet. You know your dog best! I am so happy we did it. Titan is so happy everyone comments how well he is doing. Today we went for his 4th tumor. There were some parents of a boxer waiting for their test results of their dog Bo's tests. I was so happy they could see how well Titan was doing so if they have to make that decision they can see dogs(even big ones) can do it. They were truly amazed at how quick he recovered. I even trained Titan on a dog ramp to get into my tahoe suv. We just got the ruffwear harness and that helps me slow him down. Sometimes he still goes full force.

 I think the average they live after can be up to a year. Some are less and there are quite a few who made it almost 2 yrs. Finnegan was a wolfhound you should check jis story out. Jerry Dawg made it 23 months with no chemo. Are you planning on doing chemo. I think like a person if they have the will, strength and mind to fight they can do it. Looking at that picture it looks like your baby has that personality. Good luck. Keep us posted

Heidi and Titan

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31 October 2008 - 2:21 am
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Titan said:

Jerry Dawg made it 23 months with no chemo.


Hi Titan. Just to clarify; I didn't have IV chemo, but I did have chemo in a pill form, via the metronomic protocol, sixteen months after my amputation. 

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31 October 2008 - 12:31 pm
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Nindri,

Our Dexter is now 5.5 wks. post-amp. and we couldn't be happier for her. When she was diagnosed we didn't think twice about the amputation and it was done literally 2 days later. My first thought was "get this cancer out of her right now" and we'll deal with other issues later.  I know that 5.5. wks. isn't a very long time, but she was back to her normal self 2 wks. after the surgery and has done nothing but improve since then.  For now, we have our baby back and are enjoying her as much as possible.  I've said over and over that I am so glad that we were fortunate enough to afford the surgery as I couldn't imagine not having that option.  I can play with her as rough as I used to, her "attitude" is back in full swing, and she is truly happy.  It's hard to think that she even has cancer because she's doing so well and appears so healthy.

Good luck w/ the surgery; you made the right decision.

 Sherri & Dexter

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31 October 2008 - 1:29 pm
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Just make sure that if you amputate, you fully recognize that this is not a cure.  Amputation for the most part will temporarily relieve your dog of living in pain, but in the majority of cases, the cancer is going to return and take your dog.  The choice is whether you want to live with your dog for another 6 months to 2 years or so.  Your dog's life is going to be severly limited compared to what it was before the amputation.  Don't expect miracles.

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31 October 2008 - 2:16 pm
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Dextersmom said:

For now, we have our baby back and are enjoying her as much as possible.


That's the attitude! Laughing Keep that tail wagging ...Thanks for sharing your success and high spirits with others.

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31 October 2008 - 4:23 pm
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Thank you for all great and inspirational stories Smile!

We had a chat with the vet today and all the questions for now were answered and she seems confident that she'll do fine after amputation.

Just waiting preapproval from insurance company to go through for amputation and chemo before we can start. Just hope that there's no problems there.

I do know that is not a cure just hope that we have as long as possible with her. As long as she's not in pain or discomfort.

 

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8 November 2008 - 8:22 pm
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Hi Nindri & Mom,

It sounds like you certainly have the right attitude going here and all the advice that you have been given from the other members is from their own experiences and studies they have done trying to understand this baffling disease.  We will be sending you pawsitive thoughts regardless what your decision is for Nindri.  I must say, she is an absolutely gorgeous dog and she has a very beautiful face.  Thank you for sharing this wonderful picture with us.  We will keep our paws crossed in prayer for you.

Love, Blazer, Kitty Kimber & Mom (Vicki)

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