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31 August 2008 - 10:51 pm
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Casey is so cute. His picture showed up. Could there have possibly been any nerve damage from the surgery? Could his chewing caused any damage? Does casey always do this from when he his lying down? Do you have a camcorder you can set up like a nanny cam to try to get in on tape to show the vet?Maybe the vet could do some reflex testing on him while you are gone. Since he is sensitive this may add to the jerking. He could have had issue before but it never came out until now. Dogs are good at hiding their pain. His tucking his tail could be a sign that something is bothering him. Do you noctice the jerking when there is a noise around? Is he on any medicine that could give any side effects? Maybe a muscle spasm? I am trying to think of anything that may give you ideas....... I still wouldn't totally discount phantom pain

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1 September 2008 - 9:16 am
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Good to hear that Casey is making some progress.  Hopefully your vet can see what's happening and will know where to go from there.  Keep us posted. Your experiences may help others in the future.

Hugs to you and Casey

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1 September 2008 - 10:19 am
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Heidi and Titan & Connie and Radar,

The nerve damage could be a strong possibility I think.  It is not connected with chewing or eating.  I notice the jumping and jerking more when he is laying down because he does that a lot--he's 11!  But I think I have seen him do it in a standing position as well.  I considered the noise issue because he is extremely sensitive to sound (I mean, look at the ears!!), but I have also seen him do it with no noise at all.  He is on no medicine.  It's also possible that it could be a muscle spasm.  Honestly, when I first noticed him doing it, the way he tucks his hind end down and his tail down and moves, I thought he might have worms or something.  That's when the vet cleaned out his anal glands.  But he is still doing it now.  I had thought about the camcorder.  I actually did take pictures on my digital camera in the beginning to show the vet how his leg was hanging down and folded over so much that his paw pad was up in the air, not on the ground.  And video-taped him swimming in the tub so the vet could see him doing that.  Sigh!  I just figured that I would be videoing him and then he wouldn't do it!  Maybe the vet will see it while he is there.  I may still try it though.  Can't hurt. 

Thanks to you all, and I will keep you posted on his progress!  Actually, I have had neck surgery 4 days after Casey's surgery (they took a disc out of my neck) and I am having tingling sensations of deadened nerves coming alive again.  Maybe he is experiencing that and doesn't understand it or know what it is.

Hugs to you all as well!

Julie and Casey

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1 September 2008 - 2:35 pm
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Casey said:

Actually, I have had neck surgery 4 days after Casey’s surgery (they took a disc out of my neck) and I am having tingling sensations of deadened nerves coming alive again.  Maybe he is experiencing that and doesn’t understand it or know what it is.


Wow, I think you might be on to something there!

Keep us posted.  

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1 September 2008 - 2:49 pm
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Casey said:

PS I hope his picture shows up on this; I tried to upload it.


Hmmm ... how did you try? Complete instructions for adding images to posts can be found in the Tech Support forum .

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1 September 2008 - 9:32 pm
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That sounds like it may be a good possibility. Good luck. Let us know what happens. I hope you have a nice relaxing vacation. Were jealous.

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3 September 2008 - 5:12 pm
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Phantom Pain =My Air Is Painful And It's Very Real

 Hi, Although I do not have a dog that's an amputee. I am an above knee amputee and do have phantom pain . I often wondered if animals experienced phantom pain . There is so much I know about this from the thousands of hours of research to help myself. I was dragged on I-75 at 13 and hit by a car 2 years later. Have endured 68 surgeries, 0ver 1400 days in the hospital, 23 broken bones,4 months in the U of MI burn unit due to a severe degloving injury of my entire right leg and heel. Had my legs pinned together for cross flaps surgery 3 times. This all began in the early 1980's and then in 1996 my leg had to be amputated. I would do just about anything to take back the decreppedleg I did have. I had no clue the nightmare phantom pain would be. The numerous medications and side effects. I don't want to scare you but I read that gabapentin-anticonvulsant type med could be used for a few weeks. Well it should be used indefinitely because once you have phantom pain , you normally always will although it can get better and easier to tolerate. I know that people with congenital deformities don't have phantom pain and if amputation occurs usually prior to age 8, they have minimal chance of this. It all has to do with the brain and spinal cord. What reason did the vet say Casey couldn't have phantom pain ? How do they know this? I would think it couldn't hurt for the vet to medicate Casey.A small dose of an anti-convulsant and anti-depressant, not for depression but what it does to the neurotransmitters. Certain classes work much better. You may even want to call a pain clinic,physiatrist, anesthesiologist, neurologist to see what evidence they have for animals and phantom pain . I know how mind draining and lfe altering phantom pain is and I don't want to put any fear in you. It's quite possible that the plasticity of a canines brain is significantly different than that of a human. the pain has alot to do with the memory of the preexisting injury pain and how the spinal cord fires abnormal signals it receives to the brain as being painful. I am a lay person but for the benefit of Casey's future try to find out if she is really having this. I will look into this. My dad has an awesome vet for his race horses and I will ask some of my doctors when I see them. Take care

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3 September 2008 - 6:36 pm
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Wow. You are quite a trooper Snowgoer! Thank you for the input.

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