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Bogis Bone Hermangiosarcoma is EVERYWHERE i am devestated
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29 July 2013 - 10:32 am
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Hi all. I can barely see my screen while I type this message. Went to vet this am to do Ultrasound of abdomen his cancer is everywhere in his spleen and in his liver I am DEVESTATED. Vet said we canDoxirubin Chemo or Metronomics or something I cant even remember I cried so much but he doesn't give me much hope

 

it reads:" Diffuse nodular soft tissue/partially cystic mass infiltrated throughout all liver lobes and spleen. Considering recent histopath diagnosis of bone hermangiosarcoma this is almost certainly metastatic HSA involvement within the liver and spleen.

Normal 2 dimensional echocardiograph evaluation No evidence of right atrial or heart base mass is documented.

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29 July 2013 - 1:17 pm
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I am so sorry to hear about this :(

 

How is he otherwise? Acting like himself?

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29 July 2013 - 1:42 pm
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I am so sorry :(

"Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable, let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency

"May I recommend serenity to you? A life that is burdened with expectations is a heavy life. Its fruit is sorrow and disappointment. Learn to be one with the joy of the moment."
-Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul


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29 July 2013 - 1:51 pm
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Mannie, I am so sorry to hear this.  Love him, feed him whatever you want.  Just remember he doesn't know this.  He doesn't want you to mourn him yet.  We are all here for you

 

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Michelle & Sassy

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29 July 2013 - 2:00 pm
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I am so sorry.  Love your boy, cherish every moment.  All Bogi knows is that you love him, and that is all that matters to him.

We are here to help with whatever you need.

 

Karen and Spirit Maggie

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29 July 2013 - 2:04 pm
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I'm so so sorry to read this :(  

Live everyday to its fullest, cherish every moment you have left. We'll all be here for you through this. 

Barret was diagnosed with Hemangiopericytoma May 16, 2013. Front left leg/scapula/pectoral muscle was amputated on June 11, 2013 and we've never looked back. Follow our story on http://barret.t.....pawds.com/ and read my column on That Pet Blog

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29 July 2013 - 2:50 pm
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We are here with you! We are here ugging you and holding you. We won't let go!

Okay now. Let's deal with what we know.....not statistics, timeframes, etc. Just what we know

Okay, you know where it's located. There is no bleeding. It's probaly been like this for awhile. Nothing has changed as far as Bogi is concerned and that's hugely important!

Bogi's with you and not going anywhere anytime soon.

Hope has so many different definitions...but there is still hope for more time to love and spoil. If you want to pursue metronomics AND holistic or eother--or---there is still hope. We're gonna figure out a way to slow this stuff down and maybe even dormat.

When you can, get in touch with Dr. Charles Loops in North Carolina..... there's also a Dr. Xie....gosh...Atlas's mom will have to chime in on spelling and how to contact. They can help Bogi, I know they can.

You are devasted beyond words right now and I cannot imagine how you can even catch a breath. You are though. You will be able to step out of this all encompassing fear and check into options that give you more quality time.

Remember.... N.OTHING has changed for Bogi! He's blissfully happy being with you.

We're not letting go---we are all in this together.

Engulfing you in love, calm and clarity,

Sally and Happy Hannan

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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29 July 2013 - 3:45 pm
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This brought tears to me. I've cried so many times over the past 10 weeks, so I can't imagine, I actually feel your pain. I'm so so sorry, but I'm sure you will do what's best for your loved one. Bless you, and my sincerest thoughts, and prayers are with you, and your baby!

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29 July 2013 - 4:29 pm
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thanks all I cant stop crying all day long. But I know you are right he doesn't know how SICK HE IS it breaks my heart that thought he is goofy self he played ball with me yesterday. He gets tired very easy I walk him every 30 min I get outside he loves sitting on our lot and watching the ducks in the pond its over 90F out so I am hoping maybe that's ONE reason he tires quick and just lays down after hopping a few steps. its been a month now since amputation.

 

I just got off the phone with Dr. Goldstein in CT he is a holistic vet that has been treating Bogi for a few months now he called my Vet in Tampa today and they spoke. They feel that the only route they would possibly suggest IF I WANT TO do is Metronomics its some kind of pill I have to give him every ther day its a low dose and some kind of inflammatory pill with it. starts with a "P" I forgot the name I am so confused today has been a complete blurr BUT he said that will might/could control from new stuff forming. he will also treat for "bleeding" to stop any bleeding which is the biggest concern and then he gives something for the things to "harden" then they don't "pop" and bleed so easy. sorry if im using the wrong words but my English isn't perfect and plus I forgot half of the things he said im so upset. anyways he says with a good strong holistic program and Metronomics and Y-mmunity we can give him a good "quality of life" for now he is also calling penn state tomorrow to consult with them about Y-munity because they did a study on that so hopefully he will get some good recommendations from that as well. I know we are not talking years and I would never do anything to put my baby thru anything to just prolong life for "my sake" he assured me with this plan its all ABOUT BOGI giving him quality of life and he said if Bogi gets ANY side effects from this metronomics stuff I can stop ANY DAY. he said side effects are could be vomit, upset stomach, diarrhea and blood in urine. (not sure how I can see blood in urine?) anyways anyone any experience with this magic chemo pill can shed any light for me?

 

thanks much and thanks all for listening to me and let me cry on all your shoulders it means a lot. I keep asking WHY my dog why did he have the worst case of cancer in the bone. my holistic vet almost seems to think the bone cancer was a secondary tumor my regular vet said at this point it didn't even matter anymore? who knows my head is hurting my heart has been shredded and all I can do is cry I cant eat let alone im sure I cant sleep tonight. I feel numb I just want to go with him to that rainbow bridge when the time comes I am so in love with this dog its not even normal! I cant describe it the love we have for each other. I feel like I am losing my mind.

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29 July 2013 - 4:31 pm
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oh mannie i am so terribly sorry.  Please know that we are here for you, whatever you need.  I am thinking of you and sending you tons of hugs and strength.

 

All my love,

Erica

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo

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29 July 2013 - 5:05 pm
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And guess what? If you're like me, I loose my mind periodically on this whole stupid journy, but the darn thing always finds it's way back to me! So don't worry......it's still attached somewhere ......whether you want it to or not!:-) :-)

Hey, Is that one of THE Goldstein brothers/authors? You are in really good hands if it is!!

Let me jst address the tiredness real quickly......this heat and humidity really takes a lot out of large tripawds! Happh Hannah's little "bursts of energy" are great fun and pretty short! Loves to just plop and get hugs and tummy rubs....beats walkng in the heat !!

No one really knows what works with any of this stuff! My hilosophy pretty much nas beco e...if it won't do any harm..we'll try it!

Happh Hannah ust started metro.------Piroxicam and Cytoxan-...think that's probably what your vet said. The theory is so ething like it stops the blood vessels from feeding the "crap disease". It's supposed to not mess with the immune system like chemo------can cause uri ary tract infections.....that's why you look for blood in pee.....but they also do blood tests for that too. And.....you siply stop the cytoxan until the uti clears up. The Piroxicam ks also anti-nflammatory.

Michelle -Sassy and Katy--Jackson posted some great info. recently.

Is it K9 Immunity ? A lot of us use that.

Bogi----playig ball? Are you kiddi g me? He's doing must fine!!:-) :-) NOTHING ks bothering him ow except havi g his energy drained by the heat!

Make sure you aren't spending too much tkme on researching and not enough tme rubbing bellies and giving treats!!

We're right here! None of us are going anywhere! I'm sorry my typing's so bad.....I know it makes it hard to read! And, apparently along with losing my mind...sometimes I loose my "n" and "m"

Look forward to next post.......whether it's screaming or telling us about Bogi watchi g ducks!!!

OMD,!!! We MUST have a picture of Bogi duck watchi g!! .PLEASE!!

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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29 July 2013 - 6:41 pm
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Thanks much Sally if I knew how to post pics in here I would and yes that's the stuff he metioned  I THINK

Piroxicam and Cytoxan so this doesn't affect the immune system? how is Hannah doing on it? How long do you have to give this? Months? he told me it would be every two days?

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29 July 2013 - 7:02 pm
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I'm so sorry for these findings. You love your furbaby so much that's easy to see.  I'm glad the holistic vet is talking to you about metronomics .  Libby has been on them for about 5 months or more.  She takes a low dose chemo every day along with Rimadyl.  I've not heard of only giving it every other day.  Everything I've read has been a daily dose and it is forever or until your baby develops a problem from the cytoxan, which is usually urinary issues which can be treated.

Liberty (Libby) was diagnosed with OSA on 1-22-13.  Right front amputation on 1-31-13. No IV Chemo. Metronomic Therapy started 2-19-13 along with supplements and some home cooking. Lungs clear until 1-06-14.  She's still her happy, hoppy, bossy self.  Living the dog life to the fullest and a proud Winter Warrior. :) RIP my Libby 4-21-03 to 3-19-14

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29 July 2013 - 7:39 pm
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Piroxicam is probably the "P" drug in the metronomics ...and even if you stop the other half (Cytoxan is a common one), Piroxicam is still a great drug for pain relief and anti-tumour properties.

My heart breaks for you...and I wish there were something I could do. If you haven't checked out Doug Kotavy's pages, I highly, highly recommend them (they are excerpts from his book The Legacy of Beezer and Boomer: Lessons on Living & Dying From My Canine Brothers).

 My personal favorite of the excerpted essays is On Hope--which is where we get the saying about not smearing the frosting...and t hat is a line that has gotten me through many rough moments.

As others have said, Bogi only knows that you love him, that he is living the good life, and that you are his pack leader. Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Right now, focus on spending each moment you have enjoying all those things--big, small, silly, profound--that make your relationship what it is. Nobody, healthy or sick, is guaranteed a tomorrow, so make every today a wondrous one.

Many hugs to you. <3

"Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable, let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency

"May I recommend serenity to you? A life that is burdened with expectations is a heavy life. Its fruit is sorrow and disappointment. Learn to be one with the joy of the moment."
-Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul

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29 July 2013 - 7:40 pm
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What a rough day this has been for you. My heart hurts for Bogi and you. At least you now have some sort of plan going forward and now is the time to make some of the greatest Bogi memories ever. I'm glad we could all be here for you and will continue to be here as long as you need us.

Take care and give Bogi a big hug.

Luanne and Shooter

Spirit Shooter was a Miniature Australian Shepherd who was diagnosed with a MCT and had a LF amp 1/28/13 at 13-1/2 years old. 

Shooter crossed the Bridge on 8/28/13, his 7 month ampuversary and two weeks from his 14th birthday.

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