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…? In this episode of Tripawd Talk Radio #118, you'll find out.

In Loving Memory of Whiskey the Tripawd

Thank you for helping so many osteosarcoma dogs, Whiskey.

In this episode of Tripawd Talk Radio, Whiskey's mom Eleni Merkh shares all the details about Whiskey's osteosarcoma metastasis…

…. And he's also an active participant in clinical research with Ethos Discovery. His projects focusing on minimally invasive treatments for osteosarcoma and other cancers. And that's why we're excited to to talk with him today.

Tripawd Talk Radio Episode #118

Whiskey and the MIMIC…

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Dr. Chris Thomson is an active participant in clinical research with Ethos Discovery. His projects focusing on minimally invasive treatments for osteosarcoma, thrombocytopenia, urogenital cancer, and several others.

MIMIC Study Resources

Clinical Study: Minimally Invasive Metastasectomy in…

…Canines (MIMIC)
https://www.ethosdiscovery.org/clinical-study/minimally-invasive-metastasectomy-in-canines-mimic/

Osteosarcoma Metastasis Surgery Study Helps Whiskey the Tripawd Thrive!
https://tripawds.com/2022/11/23/osteosarcoma-metastasis-surgery/

MIMIC: Real…

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This study or this technique is really a perfect melding of a lot of those passions. It gives us a chance to give patients diagnosed with osteosarcoma the greatest chance of a long-term survival. While taking away the pain and morbidity that was historically seen with some of these pretty invasive…

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TRIPAWDS: Eleni, we would love to hear about Whiskey’s story. Let’s talk about it from beginning. You got the diagnosis for osteosarcoma when and how old was she, all that stuff.

ELENI: Whiskey turned 1 in the beginning of October 2021. And she – it was Halloween, she started…

…corner of the pet parent universe, but we have seen dogs as young as, I want to say 15 months, I don’t think we’ve ever seen a year old dog with osteosarcoma in our community, but it happens.

ELENI: There was one in the bone group. He was only 8 months old.

TRIPAWDS: Is that unusual, Dr.…

… Thomson? Are you seeing this in your practice?

DR. THOMSON: It’s not common but it’s known.Meaning that osteosarcoma is one of the cancers that we know has, we call it a bi-modal distribution. Most cancers, we assumed cancer as a – almost an age-related disease.…

… Meaning it’s a disease that is associated with a lot of DNA mutations over time.

But osteosarcoma is one of the cancers that we know, it has one peak or the biggest peak where we see dogs diagnosed with it at an older age. So again, anywhere from…

…? Who can or cannot participate?

DR. THOMSON: The exciting thing about the trial right now is that it is not necessarily only for dogs with osteosarcoma. Meaning that our trial is kind of two phases.

The first phase is for 18 dogs that are any cancer, except for hemangiosarcoma that has gone…

…going to do a total of 36 total dogs in the trial. And we are going to keep going until we get that full 36. The second set of dogs is going to be osteosarcoma only. Right now I’m having patients with melanoma or head and neck tumors that are coming to me that we're also doing this on. But that second…

…group will be osteosarcoma only. And again, the trial will be open until the full 36 are enrolled. Or if there’s a reason to stop prematurely.

TRIPAWDS: And again,…

…this a procedure that can be repeated and would that be outside the scope of the study?

DR. THOMSON: Yeah, good question. So specifically to osteosarcoma, it’s a crazy, frustrating disease. We are doing everything we can to get a better understanding. Both of why patients develop lung metastases,…

…what we can do to treat them. It is for better or worse a disease that also happens in people. And so, we have a fair amount of information about osteosarcoma in humans that can somewhat translate to dogs and dogs can translate to humans.

We know that once we go forward with the initial surgery…

…: Yeah. That’s a huge rabbit hole that we could talk about for 12 hours.

There is data. There is absolutely data that we know. We have for osteosarcoma and other cancers that fits with what we call a concomitant tumor resistance theory. The basis of that is when you have a tumor present, that tumor

…one that's a great resource.

Regarding young dogs. Oh yeah, for sure you need to check out Bart's story! Barty survived for many years after osteosarcoma and that was even before immunotherapy treatments were mainstreamed. Forgive the wonky layout, we are trying to fix that tech issue.

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…Bruce,

I'm sorry you got the bad news. Osteosarcoma is a heartbreaker, but also keep in mind that many dogs go on to beat the odds. Our Jerry had two great years (and no further treatment besides

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…the ELIAS vaccine that you'll be interested in checking out:

The Greatest Dane Thrives with ELIAS Dog Cancer Immunotherapy Treatment
Dogs Beat Osteosarcoma Odds with ELIAS Cancer Immunotherapy Treatment
You sound confident in Mojo's ability to bounce back, which is spectacular! If you have anything at

…is a male English lab.  He is missing a right rear leg due to osteosarcoma.  He has had amputation, chemo and was in a clinical trial for the osteosarcoma vaccine that I understand has been discontinued at this time.  Our vet never mentioned anything about rehab when the amputation was initially done;

…spread and took over his lungs. 

So we did what we always do, we did some research. We found out that there was a trial for a “vaccine” for osteosarcoma, and that Max might be a good candidate for it, but we would have to amputate his leg and put him on chemo in order to participate. 

This vaccine

…duper exciting news from our friends at ELIAS, for dogs with osteosarcoma. For background info see:

The Greatest Dane Thrives with ELIAS Dog Cancer Immunotherapy Treatment

Dogs Beat Osteosarcoma Odds with ELIAS Cancer…

…the study ELIAS initiated in May to pursue licensure of ECI treatment combined with surgery as an alternative to chemotherapy for dogs diagnosed with osteosarcoma, a deadly form of bone cancer.

The geographical areas served by the clinical trial investigation sites include

Southern California
the…

…or chemotherapy. ELIAS will study data from the clinical trial along with data provided by 25 veterinary hospitals offering ECI to canine osteosarcoma patients under 9 CFR 103.3 as an experimental product.

"As we continue expanding the trial, we are excited to evaluate our personalized approach…

…to treating canine osteosarcoma in a larger population of dogs," said Tammie Wahaus, chief executive officer, ELIAS Animal Health.

Veterinarians interested in more information on

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…other treatments people would recommend that we should be asking our oncologist about, I’d love to hear it.) 

Sorry you got the bad news about osteosarcoma, I know that even when it's a likely diagnosis getting that confirmation is still a gut-punch. Check out these Questions to Ask Your Vet Oncologist

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