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18 July 2016 - 3:27 pm
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My vet calls us a no vaccine family, for either my cats, because Mona got cancer from a vaccine injection. I suspect I live in a safer community because rabies vaccines are not required for cats or dogs.

It's worth reading an article based on the work of Dr. Ron Schultz, a leading animal immunologist, where they've found the vaccines last longer than what is stated on the label: http://www.abrl.....DJ0808.pdf

What I'm a little baffled as to why rabies vaccines are only required for dogs in California but not for cats or horses? Yet, some vets use scare tactics to vaccinate indoor cats who have cancer. Unfortunately due to the laws sometimes we have no choice. Or you could move to BC!

It's not an easy decision.

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19 July 2016 - 10:17 am
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In fact, the girls killed a raccoon a couple of months back while we were at work.

Woah! Pam that is super scary! Glad they were OK.

What I'm a little baffled as to why rabies vaccines are only required for dogs in California but not for cats or horses?

Kerren I had no idea. I lived there for years and didnt know that. Interesting. I like the option to move to BC!

It IS a hard decision. Once you know what you know after dealing with cancer, everything that we used to consider "routine" isn't so much so anymore.

Thanks for sharing the article! Where did you find it? I'd like to make it available in our Downloads blog if we can.

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20 July 2016 - 1:43 am
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Hi Jerry,

At the top of the page it stated the article was by Lisa Rodier from Whole Dog Journal, August 2008. No page numbers though. If that doesn't help then let me know and I'll see if I can find more info.

I also think it might be worth emailing Dr. Ron Schultz and asking if he has an opinion on vaccinations when a pet has cancer. He may know if there was any research done.

Kerren

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20 July 2016 - 11:04 am
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Thanks Kerren. I'm putting this in my queue to pick up on when summer is over and I'm back here full-time. This is good info!

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17 August 2016 - 9:44 am
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Here's some information on vaccine ingredients:

http://truthabo.....-vaccines/

Kerren

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30 October 2016 - 11:41 am
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I am with the others here that we will most likely refrain from any further vaccines, how about hearworm meds?  I did not give Tungsten his last Sentinal as we were in the midst of treating a huge cancer riddled leg.  Now it has been removed should we continue his monthly Sentinal?

Tungsten Blue, diagnosed with osteosarcoma August 2016, rear leg removed 28 October 2016, left us on 12/13/16, he will be greatly missed.

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30 October 2016 - 11:45 am
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I continued heartworm meds.  It also protects against other parasites, and, I had never heard of any concerns.

Otis - 106 pound lab/Dane mix, lost his right front leg to osteosarcoma on Febuary 9, 2016.  Four rounds of carboplatin completed in April, 2016.  Lung mets August 25, 2016.  Said goodbye too soon on September 4, 2016.   Lost his adopted sister, Tess, suddenly on October 9, 2016. likely due to hemangiosarcoma.  

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30 October 2016 - 11:47 am
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ozfish I had been wondering the same thing. I didn't give Chance his Trifexis (for fleas and heartworm) and at this point I'm not sure I want to give it anymore. But I haven't done any research about this. I just figure I don't want to blast him with any chemicals while his body is recovering





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30 October 2016 - 12:12 pm
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I continued to give heartworm meds.   We did not continue vaccinations with Sassy. 

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30 October 2016 - 2:17 pm
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Izzy still takes her heartworm meds but skipped vaccines at her vet's recommendation. As she put it, "I'd rather not rock the boat." She did say that, if I were ever needing to board Izzy, we could cross that bridge when we got to it, but Izzy stays with her poppa's aunt when I travel. Of course, it's a farm and there's a ton of animals and critters, but they are all well cared for and regularly vetted. 🙂

I think her rabies vaccine expires in 2018 - she got her last round of shots just before we discovered the cancer, so I'm especially comfortable. If she makes it that long, which would be SO AMAZING ... 15 is old for ANY dog! ... well, I'll be happy to keep her home with me ALL the time! heart

Momma to the world's most beautiful American Bulldog, Izzy!! Lost her front leg to OSA 9/18/15. Diagnosed w MCT in June 2016. Celebrated her 1 year ampuversary with knee surgery on 9/18/16! MCT recurrence in Dec 2016. Happy & hungry til nearly 14, earning her wings on 7/31/17.

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31 October 2016 - 12:27 am
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No heartworm in the UK, and we're not fighting Cancer either, so actually there's probably not a lot of point my chiming in here, but in case it's of interest, when we were fighting the chronic infection, which ultimately lost Meg her leg, she came off everything: no flea or tick treatment, no vaccines, no wormers as we were trying to build her immunity. This was under the guidance of both her standard and holistic vets. 

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31 October 2016 - 11:40 am
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No heartworm in the UK? You are so fortunate! I'm glad you chimed in, I had no idea. And I love the way your vets advised you to get rid of the chemicals. Too many still don't see the risk of chemicals for dogs with cancer. That explains so much about Meg's sparkle and shine!

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31 October 2016 - 2:21 pm
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We just returned 3 years ago from Australia (Tungsten is from there as well)...they did not have any rabies. It was interesting bringing them home and first thing having them to the vet for rabies shots. 

Tungsten Blue, diagnosed with osteosarcoma August 2016, rear leg removed 28 October 2016, left us on 12/13/16, he will be greatly missed.

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1 November 2016 - 9:38 pm
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I am so glad I found this thread, because I was just about to start a new one on the same topic! big-grin

I've still been giving Susie heartworm and flea meds (although I just stopped her flea med for the year and won't start up again until next spring), but she hasn't been due for any shots since the cancer amp until now. She's actually due for 3-year rabies, Canine Parainfluenza and Bordetella. I do have to travel quite a bit for work, and I've been lucky to have a couple of pet-loving college students take care of her while I'm gone the past year, but I realize that my luck may not always hold out, and I may have to place her at a kennel at the vet at some point (and at short notice), if the girls aren't available. If she's not up-to-date on her shots, that could be a big problem.

I really feel conflicted about vaccinations. I do see how they could possibly harm a dog whose immune system was compromised. However, my daughter worked at a humane society and she dealt with lots of puppies succumbing to Parvovirus--a truly tragic situation. There was once an epidemic of Parvo in the town I grew up in, and all the vets were running out of the vaccine. I was so desperate that my tiny Yorkie puppy not succumb to the deadly disease that I had my friend take him to her vet in a nearby town and pretend that he was her dog, just so he could be vaccinated! If you've ever watched a dog dying of some of these terrible diseases that could be prevented by vaccination, it leaves a lasting impression, as it did on my daughter, who's very pro-vaccination. Heartworm is also a devastating disease--even more so for a dog who is already weakened by cancer.

So I am really torn. I may just opt for the rabies (I think it's actually required by law here) and maybe not do the others. We opted not to do chemo, so Susie's immune system is not weakened already from that.

I wonder if any vets could chime in, as I'd love to hear what they think.



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1 November 2016 - 10:28 pm
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Having a cat who got cancer from a vaccine injection I'm very concerned about vets pushing unnecessary vaccinations. Here is an excellent article about core and non-core vaccines http://www.abrl.....0808.pdf 

Better yet here is a video of a leading veterinary immunologist, Dr. Ronald Schultz where he explains vaccines, how long they last, which ones he does for his pets, etc. 

Hope you find it helpful. Its well worth the discussion with your vet before giving any vaccines.

Kerren

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