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I'm a new member and a new tripawd mom, but when I read your "OMG" post I actually cried I was so happy for Amber! It's amazing how something as little as taking a step can like, make your entire day. We took our dog home last night and although he has no problems walking, he keeps looking at me like I'm the devil. It breaks my little heart. Glad to hear she keeps improving, and please keep us updated!
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11:27 am
Moderator
28 November 2008
Offlineldillon81 said:
I'm a new member and a new tripawd mom, but when I read your “OMG” post I actually cried I was so happy for Amber! It's amazing how something as little as taking a step can like, make your entire day. We took our dog home last night and although he has no problems walking, he keeps looking at me like I'm the devil. It breaks my little heart. Glad to hear she keeps improving, and please keep us updated!
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I felt a twinge of pain when I saw he looks at you like you're the devil. I'm hoping you're just feeling a little guilt and he loves you as much as he ever has. When they brought Trouble out to us after her surgery, she looked at us as if questioning if everything was ok, but when we responded to her as loving as we always had been, she seemed satisfied that she was accepted and has been herself ever since.
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10:52 am
Team Tripawds
25 April 2007
OfflineWay to go Amberdoodle, keep up the good work! One day at a time … a roller coaster indeed.
Perhaps she was growing dependent upon your assistance and when your support was not there 100%, she would fall. Here's to every day getting better from here. Thanks for the update!
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admin said:
…Perhaps she was growing dependent upon your assistance and when your support was not there 100%, she would fall.
I worried about that. It's just that she fell enough when I was trying to prevent it, and would often cause herself a small injury in the process. Right now, she has a small abrasion on one of her toes (of her remaining rear leg), two large-ish (quarter sized) abrasions on the skin over her ischial table (from when she's gone down hard…and then keeps re-abrading them in subsequent falls, although they're relatively minor "raspberries"), and even a small laceration of her anus. …Yes…her anus. (It's small, and seems to be healing okay.) (My vet. asked if it was an anal fissure, but it's not. I believe it happened during one of her trips to the ground, since I noticed it after it first happened, and was bleeding, which was right after she took a tumble onto her tuchis.) :-o Plus, she still has those sutures. I don't want a hard fall to tear that open.
I would be waaaaay more comfortable letting her fall down (so she can learn not to) if she had all her hair (which would prevent skin abrasions, for the most part), and if her stump was healed.
I've always been aware that she has to fall and learn to catch herself, in order to become proficient. I would've started letting her do that sooner, if only she wanted to walk, or even could. Now that she can, I am giving her the opportunity to fail, and thus succeed.
On a happier note, she walked unaided for the longest she ever has, this afternoon. It's day 8. She got up; walked to me; then did a little tour of one side of the yard; fell down hard (I helped her back up, just because…); did another big loop; took herself back to one of her outdoor beds; and laid down. That's the most unbelievably encouraging things to happen, to date. For most of that, I was at least 20-30 feet away. About two hours earlier, she wanted to get up from her bed, so I encouraged her verbally (but didn't assist). She went to one of her favorite sunny spots, and did a little sunbathing. But that was too hot, and she wanted to make a change. A little more verbal encouragement, and she got up unaided; walked to where I was; I told her to go drink some water…and she did…not falling at all; and then she went to her shady bed. Two very promising incidents in one afternoon! I'm so glad to see she's not only figuring it all out, but can support herself with that arthritic stifle. (Her stifles were not a big problem before OSA, although they looked bad on rad's. Luckily, her left was worse than her right, and the left was the one amputated.)
I'm still waiting on her first unaided urination and defecation, though.
When she can get up, move around, and relieve herself without needing us (and without falling down hard all the time), then I will truly be able to exhale. I would dearly love to be able to walk her to her future chemotherapy appointments…which can't start soon enough, as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks again, so much, for the support, encouragement, and wisdom. I'm not an online forum/community kind of gal, and I'm a bit surprised by how helpful it has been to both share my concerns and victories, but also to receive such support and reasoned information. :-) :-) :-)
hugapitbull said:
…You might try raising her water & food bowls off the ground. It seems to help keep them from being quite so tired in those first few days.
We took Trouble off the tramadol a little too early and see, too, seemed to have some fading in the afternoon from either being tired or maybe in pain. I gave her the tramadol for another few days (maybe a week) and she was good to go after that.
Six months later, she is having some stiffness in the hind quarters, so I've been giving her half a tramadol twice daily. Tried glucosamine instead of the tramadol, and she was allergic to it and I'm still trying to treat the rash, yuk.
Thanks so much for the info!!!
We have always fed/watered raised. Having owned Danes for nearly 50 years, I've been doing the raised feeder thing for decades. But you're so right. It is probably so much easier during recovery, if the dishes are raised. Ironically, I have all her food and water dishes raised, indoors and out. But on that occasion I was describing, there was nothing nearby on which I could put the water dish, in order to raise it. So, I just put it on the ground. Her first attempt at drinking water on her own, unaided, was (surprisingly) with the dish on the ground. Happily, just this afternoon, she had enough gumption to go to where her water dish is normally, outdoors…where it's raised.
As far as Tramadol goes, I still don't know quite what to think. Her first success in walking occurred after she'd been off all medication except Metacam. But it just made sense that the Tramadol would alleviate some of the pain, and thus allow her to walk more. I worried it was partly to blame for her being so "out of it". But I've been giving 50mg about every 8 hours, and she had her best walking day to date. So, it's not the Tramadol, methinks.
As for glucosamine, she'd been on a supplement for about the previous year (with no visible difference in her abilities). I'm about to start her on Cosequin DS (if it ever arrives), so we'll see if that helps her knee. (…almost wrote "knees"…plural) (oops)
I'm just so much more encouraged, and it probably shows in my writing. She's really walking. It ain't purdy, but she's doing it. It's such a relief, I can't even put it into words.
Thanks so much for your continued input. I really appreciate it!
Zeus said:
…We'll say lots of prayers – please keep us posted.
Love
Heather and Zeus
Thank you so much for your kind words, as well as the information. I'm glad to hear it's normal to question the wisdom of the surgery during the brutal recovery period. That's basically how I've been feeling, especially still having not read any accounts where it took five days for the dog to take its first independent steps. (It's day 8 and she still hasn't urinated or defecated unaided…but I think today might be the day…) ;-)
ldillon81 said:
I'm a new member and a new tripawd mom, but when I read your “OMG” post I actually cried I was so happy for Amber! It's amazing how something as little as taking a step can like, make your entire day. We took our dog home last night and although he has no problems walking, he keeps looking at me like I'm the devil. It breaks my little heart. Glad to hear she keeps improving, and please keep us updated!
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Thanks. :-) It was a moving moment. I'm sorry you're feeling like your dog is holding a grudge. I'm sure he's just not himself, yet. I'll look for your stories and updates. :-)
tazziedog said:
I would be concerned with the knuckling over. When she is laying down, will she move that leg if you pinch a toe? The urine could be due to a full bladder that is leaking or that could also be neurological. At any rate she is at risk for a bladder infection if she is retaining urine. Still being dopey on the few drugs that she is on is also not right. I know it is a pain but I think you should take her in for some blood testing or at least an exam so that your vet can test her spinal reflexes.
Since she is a small Dane you could try getting her on a large blanket or comforter and then drag/slide her to the car. If she has to go over bumpy ground just make sure that she is well padded!
Good luck! This could still be slow recovery but I would check it out.
Pam and Tazzie
Dr. Pam… ;-) Thanks so much for offering your input. It is GREATLY appreciated. I did a kind of blanket update which addresses some of your concerns or suggestions. In short, she's doing well, is no longer incontinent, and only did the knuckling-over thing when we were supporting her. On her own, she's good. And I specifically watched during her two, lengthier “walking” sessions today, and noticed she never knuckles-over when she's operating under her own power. (phew)
Oh, I discussed the incontinence issue with my veterinarian, over the phone, and she suggested to wait a bit longer, to see if it continued. By the next afternoon, she'd had her last “accident”…so far. (knock wood)
She's pretty bright and alert, if not rather tired after her walking attempts. She's still sleeping more than normal, but I understand that's to be expected. Based on the relative delay in her walking, maybe I should expect all benchmaks to be delayed, too. If most dogs are sleepy during the first two weeks, maybe she'll be sleepier-than-normal for the first 3 or 4? Who knows? I'm just bolstered that she's finally walking.
In any event, I wanted to thank you, for taking the time to offer support and information. It is really appreciated.
I don't want to miss anyone, so if I didn't specifically reply to your comment/question, please know that I really appreciate the support. I did my best to address specific concerns or questions in a recent, lengthy entry. But I worry that I might have missed thanking individuals who've taken the time to reply. THANK YOU!
Today's a very good day. …Independent walking. Need I say more? (It's day 8.) :-)
Maxs Mom said:
Sending lots of good thoughts and prayers your way. Hopefully the vet will give good news!
Oops! Thanks. Good thoughts received…just in time. :-)
3:06 pm
Moderator
28 November 2008
OfflineI think from this point you will begin to see improvement daily. Some days large, some days small.
Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul. Run free at Rainbow Bridge.We honor our fellow November Five members who will always remain forever in my heart: Nova – the lone survivor, live proud and long; Spirits Max, Cherry, & Tika – who made half the journey with us and greeted Trouble at the Bridge
http://k9cancer.org – a canine cancer support community
10:11 am
Team Tripawds
25 April 2007
OfflineArmstrong said:
I'm just so much more encouraged, and it probably shows in my writing. She's really walking. It ain't purdy, but she's doing it. It's such a relief, I can't even put it into words.
You just did! 
What great news, we hope today is even better. Even the littlest hop is a reason to celebrate. Keep us posted, we'll be thinking of you both.
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