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Post op infection, multiple debridement surgeries, amputation nightmare.
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Hi all!  This is my first post here.  It may be a long one! LOL!  I have a 9 year old Maine Coon named George (we call him Budders) who presented with limping several months ago.  We thought it was a soft tissue injury and it cleared up on its own.  Then it came back and got worse.  By the time we got him to the vet, there was a large tumor on the mid-shaft humerus.  The vet suspected a vaccine induced sarcoma and recommended immediate amputation.  She advised that the vaccine companies are good about reimbursement and that we shouldn't worry about the money right now.  That was on a Saturday, his surgery was scheduled for Tuesday.  She had contacted the vaccine company and they advised they would pay up to $3000 if it was VIS.  Since we were kind of putting the cart before the horse on this one, it was kind of a leap of faith on our part and the vets part.  She was willing to sit on the balance and wait for reimbursement from the drug company instead of me paying the bill and waiting the 10-12 weeks for the money once all the paperwork was filed.  That's how confident she was that it was VIS.  If it wasn't, they would still pay for the "biopsy" procedure and we would be responsible for the rest.  The prognosis, as long as the margins were clean, was pretty good since he was an otherwise healthy middle aged cat.

He had his surgery and did pretty well.  They kept him overnight and sent him home Wednesday afternoon with a long acting buprinex injection before he left, miloxicam once a day and gabapentin 2 pills once a day.   He was pretty goofy when we got him home due to the Bup.  They did not bandage the wound (he had staples) and they left a penrose drain in that was to be taken out Saturday morning.  They said he would probably drain a little and that we could help the wound by applying warm packs twice a day.  He licked the incision a little but didn't seem to bother it too much.  We took him in Saturday to get the drain removed and we learned that he had popped a couple staples.  They advised to bring him back in Monday morning and they would close it back up.  We got home, he crawled into his favorite hiding spot and went to sleep.  Later that evening, things started to go south.

The next morning I noticed that he had not used his litter box during the night and he seemed kind of lethargic.  I know the Gabapentin has a sedating effect so I held off on his dose that morning to see if he would wake up enough to eat and drink.  He continued to hide in his cupboard most of the day.  By that night I was freaking out.  His gums were nearly white, he wasn't eating or drinking and his drainage seemed to be smelling a little foul.  I stayed up with him all night giving him little squirts of water by syringe and trying to get him to eat individual pieces of kibble.  He wouldn't eat canned food, I even tried tuna and tuna water.

When I brought him in Monday morning, I made sure that they knew that something wasn't right with him.  They told me they would advise the doctor when she came in.   About 4 hours later the vet called with bad news.  Budders was anemic and the wound was very infected and would probably need multiple surgeries.  We still didn't have the pathology report back so we didn't know how much the vaccine company would be paying.  She was calling to get a sense of where we were at as far as our commitment to treating this cat.  I advised her that if it came down to it, I would start selling worldly possessions to pay her what I owed her.  She was still pretty confident that the vaccine company would at least be covering the amputation surgery but this part might be ours. 

They took him to surgery again to open up the wound and have a look.  Turns out there was a lot of internal blood loss that neither of us had seen and there was a lot of dead tissue in the wound.  The plan was to leave the wound open, pack it with a special gauze that would help the remaining tissue granulate and eventually get it to the point where they could close it back up again.  At this point I was under the impression that it was only the portion of the wound that had gapped open that was the problem.  So I'm thinking this thing is about the size of a silver dollar.  He stayed in the hospital and had another surgery this past Thursday.  By Friday the would was looking really good and they determined that he could come home for a weekend pass starting Saturday morning.  They would repack the wound right before I took him and then it wouldn't have to be touched on Sunday.  Monday they plan on closing him up if the wound still looks good. 

When I went to pick him up yesterday, the tech showed me pictures of the wound and I nearly fainted (I'm a retired paramedic of 23 years and this almost made me sick because it was my own little man).  It wasn't just a silver dollar sized wound that was packed.  They had opened up the entire surgical incision.  His whole right shoulder area was open to the world.  Now granted, it was packed and laced in place with some suture material but geesh!  I had gotten the idea of using a onsie from reading here and I had brought one with me.  I asked it it might be a good idea to put him into one to keep him from messing with it and keeping litter and other junk out of it.  They thought it was a great idea and put it on him before I left.

Got him home yesterday and set up our bathroom as the kitty ICU again.  They had given him an appetite stimulant to get time to eat so he munched on some kibble when he got home.  I gave him his meds early in the evening and like I figured it knocked him right out.  We had made a spot for him to cuddle on the bed with us and he was very content until 1:30 this morning when he wanted off the bed and back into his cupboard in the bathroom.  He did pee in the litter box this morning and I think he ate a little.  I'm very nervous having him home with such a wound but we're keeping it covered and clean with his onsie.  I kind of can't wait until tomorrow for his final surgery so he can start his final healing.

Oh!  Almost forgot......after his first debridement surgery last Monday, the histo/pathology report came back in.   It was not a vaccine induced sarcoma but an osteosarcoma.  The vet says that's pretty good news in a way.  The margins were very clean, his xrays showed no mets and with the amputation, his survival chances are excellent.  The bad news is that the vaccine company will only pay for a portion of it now.  She's still going to work with us on the balance.  We are running a fundraising campaign to try and come up with the rest of it.  Although, she's still saying to not worry about the money right now but to worry about getting Budders better.

I'm very thankful I found this site and all it's resources.  We're in for the whole ride and it's nice to have a place like this to help with our journey.

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23 July 2017 - 10:13 am
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Hi Budders and family, welcome. I am SO sorry for the ordeal you've been through, yikes! I read every detail of your experience so far and am relieved to know that he's finally on the mend. WOW. It is good to know that your vet sounds excellent and you do have that medical background, so YAY, Budders is in great hands with you guys. He should be healed in no time and all.

And yep, your vet is right, osteosarcoma in cats usually has a favorable outcome when compared to other cancers like vaccine induced sarcoma (I just learned many vets are referring to them as Injection Site Sarcomas or ISS ) tumors. We have had handful of feline members with osteosarcoma. Of them all, Jill the Cancer Fighting Tripawd Kitty survived three years post dx and  had a great life. The cancer never returned for her, and I hope with all my heart it's the same for Budders.

Sounds like you've done a ton of research here, good job! I hope the vet bills can be reduced or at least more tolerable after all you've been through, I can only imagine. Holler if you have any other questions and keep us posted on how he's doing OK

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23 July 2017 - 6:19 pm
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WOW!   You and Budders have really had a rough time!!!   And make no mistake about it, you are a WONDERFUL ADVOCATE FOR YOUR BUDDERS! 🙂

Sounds like things are on the mend FINALLY!!!   Update us when you can, okay?  This certainly is not u heard of, vut, as yiu said, it's usually a s.aller area you are dealing with!  To be a Paramedic and to be shocked by what you saw...UGH!!

Okay Budders, we're ALL cheering for you!!  

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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23 July 2017 - 8:14 pm
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Oh my gosh, poor you and poor Budders! You are doing an excellent job with him - he's a lucky boy. I hear you on the financial side of things, I had to ask my nearly 80 year old mother if I could use her Care Credit account to pay for my guy Clyde's surgery. Its humbling, but so worth it in the long run. Just wanted to offer my support - I have cats too and I don't think any of them would be as good as Budders is being about his situation. Good luck!

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Bringing Budders back to the vet this morning.  Hope the wound looks good so they can close him up.  He spent most of the evening/night cuddling with us on the bed. He was very content.  (see pic). The gabapentin makes him very sleepy.  He did drink some yesterday, didn't eat much. He did pee in the litter box 3 times so that was good.  We are going to have to address his appetite when he comes home.   I noticed last night how skinny he was.  Good thing he was a little overweight when this all started.

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24 July 2017 - 9:10 am
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SMOOOOOOOCH!!!!   SMOOCHING BUTTERS THROUGH THE SCREEN!!   He is just PRECIOUS! 🙂 🙂

Yeah, really hope things are getting better for this sweet kitty.

For now, anythw he will eat is the plan.  I know some of the canned foods may not be the nest nutritionally speaking, but try anything.

Holly, Purrkins' Mom, and Kerren, Mona's Mom will come along with some reat tips.   Check out our tripawds kitty threads too.

Update when you can.

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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25 July 2017 - 6:56 am
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Hello & Welcome !

I am sorry I missed your post! I saw you posted on Purrkins thread and had to see if you posted on Budders. Oh my you have been thru a lot !I LOVE BUDDERS OMC Well you know whywinker So glad the onesie were allowed!! Have your tried baby food Gerbers baby food turkey & gravy or chicken & gravy ? Our cats LOVE the turkey & gravy and it can be a life saver when kitty does not want to eat! I see you tried wet food and tuna & salmon. If you haven't tried the baby food try it he might just lick it right up for you! It is high in calories too! It's not a balanced food but that is ok in times like these! Budders ever eat wet food before? Just asking to see if we can help with some ideas. Kitten wet food? I am glad you know how to syringe budders another life saver! Please let us know how things are going and keep us updated! Questions just ask we will do our best to help ! We are hoping for the ginger tabby trend for you both!! 

Hugs!

Chin & ear scratches to Mr Budders !! 

Holly & Purrkinsheart

P.S. We are about 1 hour away from Chelsea

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25 July 2017 - 10:20 pm
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Update:

Budders is home from the hospital and is very lethargic/tired.  He was mildly dehydrated this morning so they started and IV on him to give him some fluid.  His incision looked good and it totally closed up right now.  He was given and antibiotic injection and an appetite stimulant injection.   We have a recheck on Thursday.

Now for the freak out part.   It's midnight here in Michigan and I'm still up worrying about the little guy.  He just lays there.   He tried to use the litter box but wasn't able to hold himself up (that's new for today, the litter box wasn't a problem before).  He drank a little water when I put the bowl right in front of him.  He would not eat.   They switched his Gabapentin from giving it in the evening to giving it in the morning so he was still very sleepy when we got home at 6:30 pm.  He has very little energy.  He's still pretty anemic (his PCV is 18% which is up from an all time low of 11%) so I know that really saps your energy levels.   I worry that he won't take in enough nutrition to heal properly.  I will try some kitten soft food in the morning before I give him his pain meds and will pick up some baby food to try tomorrow afternoon as well.

I shouldn't be surprised that he is this lethargic.  In the last 14 days he has had a limb amputated, popped open his staples and got his wound infected.   Had 2 debridement surgeries and a final surgery yesterday to do a 4 layer close on the wound.   That is a lot for such a little dude.   I just feel really anxious that something bad is going to happen overnight.   My wife works nights (she's a nurse with 32 years of ICU experience) so she will be home during the day tomorrow.  My 12 y/o will keep an eye on him so we should have it covered but I just fear that this isn't normal.  I've never seen him this wiped out.   He wasn't this bad when he came home after his amputation.  I know the best thing I can do for him is let him rest, make sure his pain is under control, make sure he stays hydrated and try and get him to take in calories. 

Is this normal to feel this anxious.  Is it normal for this cat to be so out of it.  The vets office seemed to think he was doing well enough to come home (they kept him last night as a precaution so they aren't being reckless with his care) and he's been this lethargic the entire time (so it wasn't like he was peppy when I first got him home and then the lethargy developed).   Wish that the whole infection/wound opening thing had not happened and that he had healed normally following his amputation.  We would have gotten his staples out today since his initial surgery was 2 weeks ago today.

Thanks for letting me vent/ramble.  It's been a very long day in a succession of other very long days with many more to come apparently. ugh

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25 July 2017 - 11:01 pm
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"Vent and ramble" all you want!!  You've earned the right!! And you really aren't rambling at all!

It certainly sounds like, with everything Budeers has been through the last two weeks, and especially the last 24'hrs, her would indeed be cery lethargic and not interested in food.Gabapentin can cause a sedation effect sometimes too.

Rest is a good thing right now.  It helpsep  the body heal.

Does his breathing seem "normal".....normal for the circumstances?  How bout his gums? 

Was he able to pee?

Hopefully the antibiotic will help.  Are they doing anything in particular for the anemia?

Don't mean to be asking so many wuestiins!  Certainly, if you have any concerns, call an ER.

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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25 July 2017 - 11:16 pm
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WOWZA Budders!!! Way to worry everyone!!! Well, I think you said exactly what Budders is thinking: what a long strange trip its been. As Budders is likely still a bit anemic and on meds and had multiple surgeries and an amp and, and, well...my thoughts are he is a true warrior champion to be doing as well as he is!

Between you and the vets (who sound excellent, btw), Budders will recover but may, at this point, take longer. And it is COMPLETELY normal to be anxious about that given what has gone on so far. EVERYONE here understands: we have a longstanding Worriers Club membership drive perpetually going on;)

Two quick things to consider: Budders may need a warmish binkie to sleep on as he recovers from the anemia. Unfortunately, many new amps like cooler floors during the recovery phase but recovering from anemia may require extra warmth? Also, there is a critical care food that is nutrient dense and high calorie which vets use after surgeries, etc. Even though vets sell it and it is called prescription food, you DO NOT need a prescription and can order it from Amazon, etc. The food is -literally-a life saver. Hill's Prescription Diet Critical Care A/D. You can easily syringe feed it or make it into a slurry, etc.

Budders, you get better now! We know you are simply getting your beauty rest but you are worrying your dad!

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Also, if you do decide to try baby food, ham is a preferred flavor around here;) Be certain to check the label for ingredients that are toxic to cats ( like onions) as many flavors have additional ingredients...

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I don't think there is much that hasn't happened to any dog, cat, horse or bunny over at the DaBear HQs!!   You really do have a treasure trove of knowledge and insight!  thank you for always being so willing to share information and to be so supportive.

Just one more tip for you that I saw on a post tuxedos mom made about her cat not eating. She gave him Delectables  Chicken Flavored Teats. she said they were like kitty crack for him! You might try that too.

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Hello & welcome,

Yes, I am a few days late here, but it sure sounds like Budders and my Tuxedo had very similar post amputation complications.  What you described caused me flashbacks to those weeks of torment.  Not writing this to frighten you, but in hopes it will give you something to measure how Budders is doing against.  Tuxedo, also 9 years old, popped all his stitches around 10 days post op.  Following that he had a major debridement surgery and then went through 4 weeks of 3x a week debridement wound packing & bandage changes under anesthesia due to the extent of the infection.  In his case, the dressings were stitched to his skin & the wound was never surgically reclosed, just allowed to granulate in.  This may have been partially because for Tuxedo it was a rear leg amputation.  Yes almost 6 weeks before the vet visits eased up.  

During this time Tuxedo was kept very doped up, heavy pain meds, etc.  Which meant he slept lots.  He refused to eat everything people normally associate with a cat eating for about 3-4 days following the major debridement surgery.  I was so worried.  Strangely enough the only thing I could get him to eat was a dry cat treat called Delectables in the roasted chicken flavor.  He never had any issues drinking, but refused chicken broth and even tuna water, just plain water for him.  So it might be worth trying some dry treats before resorting to syringe feeding if it gets that bad which it likely won't.   

It was somewhere around 4 weeks post amputation (~2 weeks after the incision popped open) before he started becoming the never sit still critter of norm.  Though I should note that he did have many instances of hyperactivity, mostly associated with trying to remove his cone.  He would go around bashing it against any hard surface he could find.  At all other times he was on the lethargic side.  Except for the one time ketamine was used durine a dressing change.  Evidently he is very sensitive to that.  Poor dude was bouncing off the walls for several hours before he finally passed out.  

Anyway, this is my long winded way of saying, it sounds like Budders is doing just what is normal under the circumstances.  The little guy has been through a lot in a very short while.  You and your vet have it under control.  Now it is Budders turn to rest and recover which is what he is doing.  On his own schedule, because cats are notorious for wanting to to things in their own fashion.  You & your family have also been through quite a bit too.  Worrying about our little fur babies when they have difficulties is perfectly normal.  

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Thanks for all the replies. 

He did not do well during the night.  This morning I found him half out of his favorite cupboard hiding spot and he seemed too weak to move.  I pulled him the rest of the way out and he just plopped on the floor.  I did notice that there was a pee in the litter box so he was up and moving during the night.  I tried to see if he would take a little water by syringe and he took about 2ml worth and then started heaving ( I didn't squirt it, just dribbled it on his tongue until he would lap).   He ended up throwing up twice and it was a real foul smelling bit of digested food and some clear mucus.  I checked his incision and it looked good and it didn't look like there were any hematomas forming.

I'm going to take him back in this morning.  I don't know what is going on with him and I'm trying not to be a panicky parent but you can just tell when something is wrong.   His oral mucosa (gums) are pink and moist.  They're actually the best I've seen out of him lately.  It's coming up on time for his Gabapentin but I don't want to give it if he's been throwing up.  I don't think that it's pain related because when he get's behind on pain meds, he does the opposite of what he's doing now.  He gets very restless and starts walking around and trying to jump on things.

I hope they can figure this out and that he's not in a downward spiral that we can't get out of.

PS.  He's still purring his head off.....which probably doesn't mean anything but I'm hoping that it means that he's not next to death.

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I am sorry I missed this, ok everyone has given you great info and I am glad you took Budders in. If it makes you feel any better I would freaked out too! We all would have freaked out!!! As Charliebear pointed out we have a longstanding Worriers Club membership drive perpetually going on;) Ok, We all get it! I am so hoping you get some answers today! Favorite baby food here is Turkey and Gravy, so if your trying the baby food later grab all three flavors Gerbers - Ham & Gravy, Turkey & Gravy or Chicken & Gravy all are just that no onions etc. All kitties have different tastes. Hills AD is a balanced lifesaving food as CharlieBear has told you. You can order it on Amazon. For immediate need the baby food is at the store. All kitties recover differently of course and  Budders has been thru a lot !

We are sending positive thoughts and prayers your way! Update when you can will now turn my alerts on !!

HUGS

Holly & Purrkinsheart

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