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21 November 2017 - 1:42 pm
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*Sigh* hurry up and wait... ugh  I am so glad she got up, I am actually kinda glad she went out to pee 3 times and was unsuccessful the third time. I don't want to see her uncomfortable, don't get me wrong please, but those are all UTI signs as well as excessive thirst. You have progress all on your own and even though you cannot "hear" in here, you SOUND better winker

As she is starting to do better you must feel some relief. If you can get a few cans of the prescription diet for her most finicky moments, you might be really happy to have some on hand just in case. We used that a LOT at the animal hospital I worked at, and that got Huck eating also. Try to make sure she is getting meds with food, if on empty stomach (unless directed) sometimes can give them an upset belly. smiley <--- can you see my smile?  Anxious to see what they tell you. Do you have other vets in your area to check out to be her "regular" veterinarian?  Maybe you can check around and see if you can get some hints to ones that are recommended. Just a thought. 

I will check in off and on to see if you have results yet.

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21 November 2017 - 2:02 pm
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Ok, so my last post was on a new page but I think we are all on the same page lol. It just looks a little foolish with what I said AFTER what you posted,  lol.

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21 November 2017 - 2:14 pm
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Still no word.  I called them again and they cannot even tell me if the results are back yet.  So I tried her regular vet office and the tech said he would call over there, as for the blood work from Friday and the urine test, then send them to me and also get the doc there to look at them.  He was very nice and said he totally gets me being anxious and will do whatever he can to try to get some answers.  So basically we're still waiting but at least I know when they get them, they'll send them to me too. 

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Sebastian had a strong urine smell, so I was researching this the other night. In Sebastian's case, it smelled like pee, just strong smell, which they say can be from lot of B6 - which his diet is providing lots of.

But in reading some of your description, it sounds like it could be UTI. I'm not sure if it explains the lack of wanting to stand up, but it could. I read that UTI can cause the lack of eating and wanting to drink and pee (even if nothing comes out). Generally it can be treated with antibiotics. But if your people gave her pain meds instead of antibiotics, that could be throwing things into a different loop. 

Hopefully the urine analysis will shed some light on things for you guys and get you back on track soon.

Did you start the Dr. Loops program? 

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21 November 2017 - 3:02 pm
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YAY - UTI!!  I never dreamed I be happy about that.  I had a nice talk with the doctor - she said that she was VERY happy to see the results too, that she thought it could be what's dragging her down, especially if it's been going on a while and we didn't know it.  She said a couple doses of antibiotics should make her feel better, but if not, then we need to investigate what else could be going on.  I'm going to get the can of the special food when I'm over there also.   I will let you know how she is doing! Thank you all - I wouldn't have gotten thru this day without at least one panic attack if not for your support.

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YAY - UTI!!  I never dreamed I be happy about that.  I had a nice talk with the doctor - she said that she was VERY happy to see the results too, that she thought it could be what's dragging her down, especially if it's been going on a while and we didn't know it.  She said a couple doses of antibiotics should make her feel better, but if not, then we need to investigate what else could be going on.  I'm going to get the can of the special food when I'm over there also.   I will let you know how she is doing! Thank you all - I wouldn't have gotten thru this day without at least one panic attack if not for your support.  

Excellent news - she should feel much better after a couple of antibiotics. 

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21 November 2017 - 3:13 pm
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POTTY DANCE!!!!

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I know, I know... I ain't right big-grinShe should be better in 24-48 hours, YAY! I am so glad, and relieved also. Thinking big hugs, please give her a smooch on the head for me heart  

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21 November 2017 - 4:06 pm
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UTI!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂   HIP HIP HOORAAAAY FOR UTI!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂   WE JUST LOVE INFECTIONS LIKE THAT AROUND HERE!! 🙂 🙂 🙂   NOW GET BACK TO SPOILING AND LOVING AND

  B E I N G   M O R E   D O G!!!! 🙂     BEING MORE MADDIE!!    

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PS...LOVE THE HOPPY POTTY DANCE JACKIE!!!

  And oh, I forgot to mention following thst pozza up with a scoop of ice cream! 🙂

  

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And more good news --- I took your advice Jackie and I got a couple cans of A/D from the vet when I picked up the antibiotic.  I put all the pills (tramadol and the anitibiotic Baytril) in it and she chowed down.  Ate it all plus her regular food with it.  I then offered her some more food and she ate that too!  Then she got up and DRANK all by herself!  I cannot believe I am so happy over mere movement lol.  And certainly never imagined I'd be happy with an infection but that is such good news!  She did whine when she was eating, when putting her head down to the bowl, she did that twice, so I think she has some pain issues still too but the Deramax must have helped somewhat with that since she has gotten up and moved on her own twice today. Now that she seems to be feeling somewhat better, I'm going back to trying to get her into the physical therapist to see if we can help her learn to walk without injuring herself.  I put that off when she got so sick because I could barely get her to move and was totally focused on this.  Now I can refocus on rehab and the homeopathic doctor who I now have to schedule the full appointment with.  Thank you all!  I will keep you updated.  I cannot tell you how thankful I am for all of you!

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21 November 2017 - 6:18 pm
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That made our day! Pawesome news!!!! Here's to a UTI!!!

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YAAAAAAAAAY FOR MADDIE!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂   SO HAPPY TO HEAR SHE ATE WITH GUSTO!! 🙂

Do you jave her food bowls elevated?  That may help reduce any strain on her neck and back.  Sounds like if she gave a little whine while in the "eating position", she have have some neck and back tightness.  Maybe  warm a towel in the dryer and then give her a. nice "heated" .massage before bedtime tonight.

Take iteasy Miss Maddie!!!  No crazy jumping over couches and stuff, okay?

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21 November 2017 - 6:48 pm
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Deramaxx is a great product, has been for years. I am so glad she is turning around. Sorry, I have been cooking. I felt ok to go do that knowing Maddie was good. Sally's advice is great, any tall big chested dog should always be fed higher. In your case for the amp, and for her back.. she is tall, yes? Even moreso!  Beyond that it wards against bloat, which is HUGE in large chested tall dogs. 

I am tickled that she loved the A/D. It is pricey but man it does the job! Sally's massage sounds wonderful... I could use one!!!! I am smiling so HUGE right now!! 

Now... mama *stern look* ... you need REST!  You wont be any good to anybody if you don't take care of yourself. Breathe, kick your feet up, snuggle your pup, and RELAX!  Maddie... show your mama how heartheart

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22 November 2017 - 6:32 am
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Well, unfortunately, the UTI has not been her problem.  It's actually i guess another symptom.  On Friday evening when we took her in because of her being sick and the doctor told us that it was basically a progression of her cancer, we asked them to look at her incision because it looked swollen to us and my daughter thought it felt warmer than the rest of her.  They said they looked at it and it was fine, that it wasn't swollen and her surgeon was there and he also checked it out and said it looked "great".  Uggg.  Last night, midnight, we're all sleeping and Mads was in my daughter's room and she stood up kind of suddenly and moved to her other bed, then stood up again.  My daughter turned on her light to just check her and OMG she was bleeding, bleeding, profusely.  It is not an exaggeration when I say it looked like a faucet turned on from her incision.  There was so much blood we couldn't even really see WHERE on her incision it was coming from.  It was everywhere.  We of course put her in the car and took her back to the only ER near us which is also the same place that has all the specialists and did her surgery.  There was so much blood -- I don't think I've ever seen anything like it.  The bleeding slowed somewhat in the car and by the time we got there it was just running out of her.  They took her back and put a pressure bandage on her immediately then brought her to us to wait for the doctor.   During our wait it was like Maddie was Maddie again.  She was moving her head around, standing up, sitting, panting, drinking, etc etc.  The ER vet who thankfully was NOT the same as Friday's was great.  She basically said this was her problem all along.  That she must have developed a seroma and it became infected.  As the pressure grew, she felt worse, moved less, which made her not eat, drink, get a UTI, add to her problems.  She said this also explains why the Deramaxx seemed to be the most help to her - anti inflammatory of course.   They took a sample of the gunk and are sending it off.  They cleaned it and now we have to take her back twice a day for bandage changes.  we could have left her but honestly I am so angry at them there is no way we were leaving her.  This poor dog has been in agony at least since Friday.   I know that when something like this happens, it's natural to do "if only" but honestly, I keep saying "if only" I'd been more insistent on Friday and said - we're not leaving here until you figure it out.  If only that doctor there had not been so quick to say "well she has a bad cancer and when one thing explains multiple symptoms, that's the answer".  On the positive note, I am hopeful that she will now be on the road to recovery.  My poor girl 🙁

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 Oh goodness!! I am surprised her bloodwork didn't show elevated white cells.  And yes,  the doctors should have paid more attention to that incision.  Thank God you all got woken up and got her to the vet quickly.  What a day you poor guys.  I sure hope this is the corner she needed to turn for the better.  UTI under control,  incision being taken care of, sheesh. I would be very angry with that vet too,  maybe a formal complaint might be in order?

I'm glad all is being taken care of,  sorry you guys have been through hell and back to get there. 

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Thanks Jackie.  She is looking GREAT this morning.  She hopped up, stood to eat (which is huge), drank a gallon of water and had some more food.  She hopped around the family room, looked outside, drank some more and this is all still being drugged from the tramadol and gabapentin.  I am just shocked this happened so long after her surgery.  It's been over a month and two weeks since her recheck.  I am ticked off at the vet from Friday, but the one last night was awesome and she didn't charge us for the ER visit, just the culture and bandage.  So we're about ready to head over there for another bandage change this morning and have them take another look.  I'm just happy she's feeling better.  Heck of a way to get there but at least now maybe she can move forward.

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