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26 October 2008 - 12:17 pm
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Jake is 12 days post amp surgery and overall, he has had a pretty good recovery (after the blood clotting scare day 5 that is!).  However, now Jake has been vomiting for the past couple of days.  He seems to be digesting his food but vomits it about 10 -12 hours after he eats so it's bile at that point.  His appetite is okay, not good but just okay at this point.  Sometimes he dives right in and eats everything.  Sometimes he eats some of the chicken or other meat on the top and sometimes (like this morning) he completely walks away from it without eating anything.  He is trying to eat grass when he goes out to do his business as I'm sure his stomach is upset.  He just finished his Tramadol last night but is still taking his antibiotic and Deramaxx (for arthritis) that the doc prescribed.  He is not due to get his staples out until next Monday (Nov. 3rd) but I'm wondering if he should be checked by the doc sooner than that because of the vomiting.  He is acting fine.  We love his new red harness!  I just started putting it on him last night.  It doesn't interfere with his staples (rear amp) so I have been putting it on him to go outside and go up the stairs for night night time so mom can go back to sleeping in bed and not on the couch and Jake gets to sleep on his arthritic bed next to momma's bed.  

Should I be really worried about the vomiting at this point?  My mind tends to think the worst sometimes.  Jake usually has a pretty strong stomach... usually only vomits when he has eaten a tennis ball or rubber toys.  I know everyone has mentioned that the pain meds could certainly upset their bellies but I'm just not sure what is going on.  What do you guys think?         

Luv Spirit Jake, Smooch, Baby Gus & Mom (Sherri)

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26 October 2008 - 12:33 pm
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 From my personal experience alot of the RXs are harsh on my dogs stomach. He was not prescribed antibiotics during recovery, my vet thought that would be overkill. In fact he gave us something for his stomach Famotidine which is pepcid.... call the vet & tell him. After Busters recovery is when I contacted a holistic vet to aid in his nutritional needs and help get his immune system back in order after all the havoc of the surgery and meds...

 I don't think I've ever mentioned this before, however, I believe in my gut Busters cancer is a result of being on Imuran and predisone due to uveitis of the eye which was a chronic condition. I believe it lowered his immune system to a point where the cancer could thrive.... I dislike certain pharmaceuticals..

 Jake needs something to soothe his tummy, if he is vomiting you don't want him to dehydrate. Even something with electrolytes might help if he refuses water. It's worth a phone call to vet & its part of after care..

Hope you feel better Jake.

Kim&Buster

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26 October 2008 - 12:45 pm
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Deramax and other NSAIDs can be extremely rough on the stomach. It tore mine up and my people took me off it immediately. Ask your vets about Metacam or other non-steroidal optins and see if they can get Jake on some Carafate to take care of that upset tummy right away.

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26 October 2008 - 4:34 pm
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We had a period of about 3 weeks that Abbey didn't feel good or eat well and our vet said the meds could be responsible.  He put her on a canned food that was specifically formulated to be easy on the stomach. It was a brown rice and chicken called EVO I think. She ate it when she had turned down steak! In a few days, she was back to normal eating. I would encourage you to call the vet and not wait another whole week. Jake needs all the good nutrition he can get to continue to heal. Hope he feels good again really soon~ Diane

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26 October 2008 - 5:45 pm
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Hi,

Lacy is on Deramax as well and her bottle says that if vomiting or diarrhea occur to stop the meds and call the vet.  Being that Deramax is an NSAID type drug, it can easily upset Jake's stomach. 

Hopefully he is still drinking water but I wouldn't make him eat if he doesn't want to.  If your vet has an emergency line, give them a call and see what they'd suggest for calming things down.

Hope he feels better soon!

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26 October 2008 - 6:15 pm
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Deramaxx "can" cause that to happen.

Jerry mentioned Carafate & Calamity had a couple of does of that yesterday because of the deramaxx giving her gut a little trouble. If you get carafate, remember to crush the tablet and add a few drops of water to make a slurry before giving it. That drug is made to be taken we a full glass of water (for humans) and we know our dogs don't have that quantity of liquid in their stomachs to insure it treats canines the way it should.

We are big fans of Metacam here.

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26 October 2008 - 6:41 pm
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I agree that the meds could be upsetting Jake's stomach.  If he is keeping fluids down, great, if not you need to get some electrolytes and such in him.  At one point we were out of town for a week long specialty show and my girl got a partial blockage from a "dentabone" (we refuse to use these any more) and wasn't keeping anything down.

Until we could get her to the vet a very experienced breeder told us to go to a farm supply store (farm and fleet or tractor supply or the like) and get something called "Calf Scour".  It is a powder you mix with sterilized water and even if they can keep it down for only 5 minutes they get the benefits of it.  It really made a huge difference and helped her a lot as she wasn't even keeping fluids down.  The only thing to remember is it has to be used within 24 hours of mixing. 

Hope Jake is feeling better soon

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26 October 2008 - 8:13 pm
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Hi Jake...Zeus here...I didn't have any vomiting, but I showed my discomfort through panting...BUT panting doesn't dehydrate...mom thinks you should ask your pawrents to call the doc since it has been a few days. It's good that you're acting the same, probably just a belly ache from all the medication - OR it could be something completely unrelated - did you eat something funky out back? It's good to be certain, so a quick call to the doc wouldn't hurt.

Feel better pal and let us know how it goes ok?

Mom sends her love and I send paw prayers.

Zeus

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26 October 2008 - 9:53 pm
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Thanks so much for all of your suggestions and get well wishes for Jake!  I'm not giving Jake anymore of the Deramax (didn't give it to Jake this morning).  I will ask the doc to put him back on the Metacam if he feels it's warranted (was taking that the week between his diagnosis of Osteosarcoma and before his amp surgery).  I don't know why the doc switched him over to the Deramax.  I will call the doc first thing in the morning and ask him what direction to take. 

I don't think Jake ate anything funky out back other than grass... I keep a pretty close eye on him.  He seems to be drinking enough water and keeps it down so I don't think I have to worry about dehydration.  He ended up eating his breakfast after I offered it again today a few hours later.  He even gobbled his dinner up with no problems this evening and seemed to want even more but I didn't want him to overdo it on his tummy.  Hopefully he'll keep it all down and not vomit up bile at 4am... poor guy.  As I said before, you'd never know he has a sick belly... he's been acting better than fine!  I'll let you all know what the doc says tomorrow.  I don't think I'm being overly worried here... as I said earlier, Jake rarely vomits.  He is able to keep the food down but I just don't know what the vomiting bile 10 hours after he eats indicates. 

Thanks again!  Don't know what I'd do without you all for the most amazing support you have given to us in the past few weeks!     

Luv Spirit Jake, Smooch, Baby Gus & Mom (Sherri)

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27 October 2008 - 1:56 am
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FYI: My doc also told my people to give me over the counter Pepcid when I switched meds. So that might help you too, at least until you can talk to your vet. Thanks for the update.

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27 October 2008 - 8:55 pm
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Jake vomited twice last night in the wee hours in the morning.  However, he ate all of his kibble this morning and no traces of vomit around the house when I checked on him during the day from work.  I called the vet this morning and they wanted to see Jake when I told them what was going on. 

The doc said that he wasn't running a temp and looks good.  Jake's upset stomach is most likely due to all of the meds (just as all of my tripawd friends thought!).  I haven't given any to him since yesterday (which was the antibiotic and a fish oil pill).  So, the doc prescribed him something similar to Pepcid (Famotidine) and Cerenia to decrease the vomiting.  He also restricted his diet to rice, boiled chicken, cottage cheese and chicken baby food etc.  Jake didn't want the rice this evening (can't say I blame him) so I am cooking/boiling him some chicken breasts. 

I also talked with the doc about chemo.  I think I've made the decision to go ahead with it but I'm still tossing it around in my head.  If I decide to go through with it, he would go in for his first treatment when he gets his staples out (November 3rd). 

Thanks again to all of you for all of your guidance.  I was definitely thinking the worst (I let fear get the best of me sometimes) and obviously need to be more pawsitive!      

Luv Spirit Jake, Smooch, Baby Gus & Mom (Sherri)

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27 October 2008 - 9:07 pm
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Hey Jake ,

     I glad you figured out what was upsetting the tummy so. Jake might eat the rice if you save the broth when you boil the chicken (like chicken soup) I give this to Buster all the time. You can make a big batch & refrigerate. Buster likes his luke warm. I also give any meds in cream cheese... it coats the tummy. Whatever you decide for Jake i'm sure you'll be fine. Ps don't forget the omega!!

Kim&Buster

Kim & Angel Buster

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28 October 2008 - 9:48 pm
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Glad to hear things are starting to look up.  Once upon a time my mom's dog needed to go on a diet.  She made a concoction of rice, chicken, spinach and garlic power so it would smell good.  I don't know if you want to add the garlic or not but try mixing the rice and chicken and he might eat them together.

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