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5 October 2017 - 11:44 am
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My Great Dane had his left rear leg removed 3 weeks ago.  Shock, overwhelming, sadness, angry are just a few of the feelings I had when I found out.  However I am not one to give up and either is Gandolf.  Colorado State University performed the surgery.  The staff there is amazing - just love them.  However after he arrived home he has been wetting the bed, carpet, towel and other things he lays on.  Gandolf will try and get up when I ask him if he would like to go potty, no problem, but I'm confused on the "in-between" of the outside and the wetting of the bed?  Three Vets are stumped since they have done blood and urine test and nothing is indicating that there is bacteria, infection, etc.  Gandolf is a BIG, BIG Great Dane.  He has actually beat the Guinness Book of World Records Great Dane (unfortunately we never were able to get that part done) in height and size.  He try's so hard to stand but will fall back down on his butt.  I know I need to strengthen his good leg even more.  Suggestions?  But my first and foremost concern is still trying to figure out why he is urinating while lying down?

Can someone please help!crying

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Oh my gosh is Gandalf a dark-colored Dane? I was at the CSU vet hospital around 3 weeks ago and saw the BIGGEST Dane I had ever seen! Do post a photo, here are instructions for adding images

So you are definitely getting the very best care at CSU. I had the good fortune of taking a tour of their new oncology ward and am SO impressed. But when a problem stumps those docs you know it's a unique situation. 

What I can offer you is this; Check out Angel Nitro's post about doggy incontinence. His started because of metronomics but you may find some helpful leads in these topics;

http://tripawds.....s-contiue/

http://tripawds.....de-effect/

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5 October 2017 - 2:00 pm
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Hi Gandolf 🦍

Hey, can you believe this? 

My Dane Eurydice was the biggest female Dane 🐘 towering at 98cm to the base of the neck and weighing 77kg which is massive for a girl 🎀🦍

What a shame they didn't get a chance to meet ...

Miss Cow was a front legger and it took around 3 weeks for her to adapt on three (and remember she was certainly much smaller and lighter than your boy).

My guess, having experienced a difficult initial recovery due to her size is that your gigantic boy knows how hard it is to get up and therefore waits until he is too pressed and then it's too late. 

Also, the physical effort of trying to get up may well release his bladder ... 

"He try's so hard to stand but will fall back down on his butt" 

Do you manage to help him stand up or is he too big for you? 

How big is he ??? 

Going back to Eurydice the first weeks I had to help her stand up the best I could, I had a harness, without it I wouldn't have managed.

But even with the harness it was extremely hard to get her up and manoeuvre so she wouldn't fall. 

Peeing was just around the corner in the garden but every hop was a real struggle, it broke my heart as I could see what an enormous amount of effort every step involved and staying up was hard as hell for her.

I would have thought him being an enormous boy and having lifted his leg for peeing all his life adds more to the confusion, he probably hasn't really figured out what to do yet.

Again, I think he still needs time to negotiate life on 3 ...

It is still early days for a huge dog, I think.

If it was me (and given the fact all tests show nothing wrong with his bladder) I'd get human incontinence dippers for the moment and see if that would help.

Thing is also that, psicologically, if he was always clean he will not like to realise he's wetting his bed so the dipper could reduce the anxiety (if that's the case) in realising he did it again. 

Danes are huge thinkers, as you know. 

It is crucial not to overdue things during recovery, I would give him more time to adapt.

I remember Eurydice would stand up and stay put for long periods of time (when she was already hoping a little better) and I didn't get in the beginning but eventually realised she was just getting used to the change in her body and judging balance in her head. 

I'm right here so if you want to chat as we both have big 🦍🦍 feel free to PM me and I'll send you my number.

Sending you a big hug and XXL cuddles to Gandolf 

😘😘💫✨🌟🐮🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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5 October 2017 - 3:24 pm
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Hello and welcome.

I'm sorry cancer and amputation has forced you here, but you will find lots of information and support from people who have hopped the path you and Gandolf have just started down.

Both of my Tripawds have been rear amp girls and neither of them have (or had) issues with peeing. 

Does Gandolf have a peeing routine where he always stands on one leg?  My little quad-pug Obie will only pee standing on his left leg, which worked fine when he has his right knee repaired.  However when he had his left knee repaired and he couldn't weight bear he wouldn't pee after surgery at the vet,  eventually he peed all over himself in his kennel.  The first week of recovery I had to hold him up so he could lift the right leg otherwise he would hold in his pee until he had an accident.

Teresa gave you some great insight from her experience with Miss Cow, I hope you find something helpful there.

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo



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7 October 2017 - 3:58 am
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Hi Gandolf a family 🌺

Just wondering how things are with your boy ...

Any developments on the pee front?

Is he feeling better and more mobile?

Thinking about you both, please do not hesitate to reach out to us, we're right here for you both!

Sending you a big hug and super cuddles to your wonderful boy 😘😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 



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15 October 2017 - 10:56 am
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Hi Gandolf and family heart

How are you doing, sweetie ????

Sending you lots of happy barks from the sky and love to your Mom heart

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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27 October 2017 - 5:22 pm
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Hey how is Gandolf doing? I hope things are better.

I thought of you when I came across this new study. You may want to mention it to your vets if the incontinence is still happening. Odds are they've heard of this treatment but I figured it couldn't hurt to include here. Hopefully if someone else is dealing with this in the future they can share it with their vet too:

Clinical Response and Side Effects Associated with Testosterone Cypionate for Urinary Incontinence in Male Dogs.

"The results reported in this case series suggest that testosterone cypionate might be an effective and safe treatment option for male dogs with Urethral sphincter mechanism incompetence (USMI)"

More info:

Incontinence treatments in male dogs

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