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I have been quiet for so long - Blumi was doing so well on the metronomic chemo I wanted to believe she is invincible and forever done with cancer and the rest.

But yesterday I saw blood in her urine. Going for ultrasound tomorrow and having urine sent for in-depth analysis, but it seems pretty certain. The good news so far is that she doesn't seem to be in pain, and she is peeing without problems (no straining).

Vet said to go off cyclophosphamide (keep the Metacam) and go on Tramadol. I haven't done so yet, because I don't think she is in pain and because the possible side effects scare me.

I am wondering if anyone knows of herbs to give to help with the cystitis. thank you

 

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You need to stop the cyclophosphamide.  the symptoms will continue to get worse.  talk to your vet about leukeran.  I gave Sassy cranberry pills but that didn't cure it.  Time & being off the drug did.  It can take up to 6-8 weeks for the symptoms to lesson.  The longer she is on it the more time its going to take and she can show more symptoms.  I don't know about using Tramadol we didn't have to use that.

 

 

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Thanks, Michelle. Yes, I did stop the cyclophosphamide already, and I have been adding cranberry powder to her food since she started on it. But I guess that magic gave out. I just read that tea made of echinacea and a few other herbs helps, but perhaps only time will really fix it.

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Blumi! Good to hear from you...even if it is about a cyctitis possibly! Sounds like, other than that, you're dong great!

Yeah, Michelle and Katy, Jackson's mom, are pretty muchnthe resident experts on going off Cytoxan and onto Leukeran
.You can still do metronomics as this clears p, you just change the type.

Hoping otjers chime i with more help as far as cystitis solutions. Paws crossed for a quick "recovery"z.

Hugs toyou and sweet Blumi!

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I'm glad that overall things are good. Fear not there is lots of magic left! Meanwhile please don't give any herbs without talking to your vet as they can interfere with the NSAID and check out this post about trying leukeran instead:

http://tripawds.....motherapy/

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Thanks, we had ultrasound today, and still awaiting urine check for cultures, but pretty sure it's cystitis. So she's offf the cyclophosphamide for now, and it looks like there will be leukeran in her future.

I'm having a herbal dispensary make up a tea for urinary infections which should also be of some assistance with the cystitis. Just waiting to talk to them and see if the "recipe" I have from Herbs for Pets sounds good to them as well. I'll pass it on if anyone's interested. I'll also be upping the cranberry powder.

It sure is never boring having a cancer-dog, but we'll take it all in stride as long as it keeps the tail wagging and the sloppy kisses coming.

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You're so right ilse, cancer keeps life interesting to say the least!

Yes we'd love to hear more about the herbal remedies you're looking into, they'd be great info for our Nutrition blog so please keep us posted, and give Blumi a big smooch from us!

Kudos to you for catching the cystitis early :)

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You're so right ilse, cancer keeps life interesting to say the least!

Yes we'd love to hear more about the herbal remedies you're looking into, they'd be great info for our Nutrition blog so please keep us posted, and give Blumi a big smooch from us!

Kudos to you for catching the cystitis early :)

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Been there!  Jackson developed it 5 months after being on cytoxan.  It took 7 weeks to clear.  He had symptoms for about 3 days, then we got confirmation of cystitis w/o an infection.  I was sorta hoping for bacteria, as that's a nice, tidy pill to solve it.  But no.  On about day 5 of his symptoms, blood appeared.  Blood remained for about a week.  There were accidents in the house.  He just had to go.  Badly!  He was so upset for his accidents, and of course we didn't scold.  Poor guy.  So for 7 weeks, he strained.  The intervals between straining lengthened, so we knew he was mending.  For him, it seemed better to let him pee once, then bring him inside.  If you've ever had a UTI, you know the urgency.  Peeing simultaneously relieves urgency and brings it right back.  Thus, we tried to let him pee just once and then find ways to distract him so he wouldn't feel the urge again.

We upped his rimadyl to 100mg/day; his metronomic protocol is 50mg/day.  We made sure he was getting at least 1000mg/day MSM (often this is in joint supplements - it's a powerful anti-inflammatory).  He got a cranberry powder (Cranimals Original - he loved it!) and Tract-Ease from Only Natural Pet.  Yep, once symptoms started, he went off cytoxan forever.  He's been on leukeran since, and his bloodwork hasn't suffered.  He's doing great on it!  Research those prices WIDELY!  They vary BIG TIME!!!!

Good luck!  It's crappy, but at least in this game, knowing this can happen AND there's relief/healing is a sort of wonderful thing.

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