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New to Tripawd - 4 mos into Molly's OSA diagnosis & treatment
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Hi - we’re new to Tripawds, not sure where to start, so I guess I’ll just give you the short(er)-story version to bring you up to today.  

Since her diagnosis, we’ve treated her with the best options available to avoid  or delay amputation because of Molly’s specific situation, and hoped to keep her happy and healthy as long as was feasible (and thankful every damned day that we have Trupanion insurance!)

Molly, our 9.5 yr old English Bulldog was diagnosed with osteosarcoma on her front L humerus in early March, just 10 days after she started limping.  Just over a week later, she was on a plane to a hospital in Calgary for Stereotactic Radio Surgery (the only vet in Canada equipped to perform SRS), and then home to recover for a few weeks before starting chemo.  Every three weeks since then, I take her 1.5 hrs down to Victoria for chemo, and rounds 1 & 2 went great with no real negative effects, just a bit tired for a few days.  Round #3 was a very rough night with her very very sick and vomiting and refusing food for the first time in her 9.5 yrs.  The week following that was a very rough one for her, she seemed to be very tired and in more pain, and we had conversations about whether or not it was “time”.  I emailed our vets (our vet here & the oncologist in Victoria) to explain her decline, and asking about the different options and advice.  They came up with a plan, and last week we took her down for an overnight trip to Victoria for not only chemo #4 but also a FLK drip to assess how much of her limp was from pain and how much was from the bone having changed shape as a result of SRS.  She also was examined by the surgeon to see how well she might do as a tripawd - this has always been one of the options on the table, but given A) she’s a bulldog (barrel-chested breed) and dogs bear 60% of their weight on their front legs and B) her x-rays from her initial diagnosis showed she has osteoarthritis in both front elbows, she was never considered and “ideal candidate”.  The results came back that  Molly’s limp definitely has a mechanical element to it and she would very likely adapt well to amputation should it come to that.  Good, we thought, to know what options are and aren’t available to us in the future…. fast forward to 1 whole week later and we are now facing amputation as an almost certainty.  Good news though, that the cancer does not appear to have spread to any other bones or her lungs or anywhere else for that matter….

Molly has never stopped limping completely, though 2 weeks after SRS it was significantly improved.  Since then, her limp gradually worsened and then seemed to level off where it stayed for a couple of months.  Then we had a very sudden and steep decline.  Thursday she had chemo, Saturday her limp seemed heavier, and after talking to the vet we adjusted her pain meds.  Tuesday, she’s using the leg differently off and on, kind of “peg-legging” it a bit.  Wednesday morning she’s peg-legging more, I send video of it to the vet, and she consults with our oncologist.  I hear back that they suspect a neuropathy, but she will call me later that day to discuss. Nine HOURS later we come home from work and she runs to greet us using 3 legs….  I’m panicked that she fell and injured or broke her leg while we were at work, but then hubby calms me down and I realize she’s super happy - she RUNNING on 3 legs, chasing after her toy, shaking her bum like a happy bully, super happy that mama and dad are home.  This is not a dog in pain.  Still, I text our vet (our incredibly amazing vet who has been absolutely incredible through this entire ordeal - I seriously cannot say enough about how wonderful her and her team have been) and let her know this new development, and she asks be to bring Molly by the next day for a re-check.  A thorough exam and some X-rays, and sends them off to the oncologist for a second opinion… and its the weekend so we’re waiting.  Hopefully Monday we’ll have some word.

Since Wednesday, she peg-legs a bit, she uses the leg and limps a bit and she tripawds a fair bit.  She seems tired, sore (not in pain, but sore from a pretty intensive physical exam and using only 3 legs and all that goes with using your body differently).  As of Thursday, the plan was to keep the leg as long as it still helps her for support, balance and more or less as a crutch, but only as long as she doesn’t injure it when dragging that paw.  In the past three days I’ve come to accept that we are pretty definitely looking at amputation, quite possibly even in the next week.  

So now it’s a new batch of What-If’s.  Phantom pain? How do we deal with that? How long can that last? What is a reasonable recovery time? Should we get her a wheelchair ? Do they even make wheelchairs for front amuptees? And the  big question: Will this give her back more quality of life or are we dangerously close to the territory of risking her being in more pain because my heart can’t bear to let her go?  Seriously, we’ve had three dogs, and if I could get this little girl to live another 30 happy and healthy years I’d do it.  That would make her a 40 year old Bulldog, seems reasonable enough to expect, right?  Kidding of course, but she is an incredibly special girl, and there hasn’t been anyone who met her that did’t fall in love with her wiggly butt and infectious personality.  I also know I’m not the only pet-owner here who feels that way about their 3 or 4 legged babies - if I were, then this who organization wouldn’t even exist….  

So Tripawders, any advice? Any insight you can offer into what Molly’s future looks like?  I have only seen a couple of front-amputee bulldogs on here, but if you have or had one, I’d love to hear from you for the simple reason that they have their own challenges.

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Hi and welcome. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm on my phone now but wanted to get your post approved so others can see it. I'll return shortly to give my thoughts but in the meantime check out Jerry's Required Reading List . Back in a bit! 

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WOW! What an ordeal you and Molly have been through!!

Please know you are NOT ALONE on this crazy journey and we are here with you every step of the way with whatever decision you make!!!

DEEP BREATHS okay? DEEP BREATHS!!! B R E A T H E...........B R E A T H E........B R E A T H E...

For now,try and keep things chunked down. One step at a time.

You DO hzve some good news in this whole scenario! Molly IS already showing she can manage three legs!! 🙂 And yes, we have indeed, had deep chested dog Bull Dogs, low slung dogs lke Basset Hounds, etc adapt to three legs very well! I'll jave to do a "search" and pull up some of these heroes!!

As far as phantom limb pain, not all dogs have that issue. While it's good to know it exists, try not to worry about it now. The nerve endings are firing off signals to a leg that's no longer there. It usually shows up randomly out of the rvlue. The dog may yelp and try and "run away" from the pain. It lasts maybe thirty seconds more or less. It IS manageable with pain meds. Some massage and comforting usually helps until the dog settles down. The brain eventually stops sending messages to the nerve endings for a leg that is no longer there. GABAPENTIN is the best med. Your Vet will probably send you home with Tramadol, Rimadyl, Gabapentin and an antibiotic.

The roughest part of the recovery GENERALLY lasts about two weeks. Sometimes less, sometimes more. It took me about three weeks before I could finally say I did this FOR my Happy Hannah and not TO her!! It is MAJOR SURGERY and it hurts! Keeping ahead of the pain with good meds is important. It may take a few days of tweaking to get the right doses at the right times.

Put thinking a out wheelchairs in the back burner for now, okay? IF needed, that's something that professionals can help you with kike Eddie's Wheels. Doggy Strollers are generally more commonly used here. You can take your dogs on walks and, the second they show tiredness, they'll hop into the stroller for a free ride! 🙂

As far as quality, the main purlose of an amputation is dpto do just that...restore quality. Obviously, we all hope for extended time too. We've learned from our dogs and cats though, that they don't count days on a calendar AND they don't have a timeframe stamped kn their butts! They care about living in the moment and soaking up loving and sloile and tummy rubs and treats and cheeseburgers and ice cream!! Yeah, spoiling a Tripawd can be a lot of fun!! 🙂

Unfortunately there are no guarantees. No crystal balls are available that tell us how well a dog will do on three legs. Plus, ANY surgery has risks. The best we can do is rely on feedback from the Vets letting us know if our dogs look like a good candidate for surgery and amputation. And it sounds like Molly is aa good candidate!!

Clearly Molly has a great attitude and a whole lot of determination!! And that works in her favor!! And she has a great advocate in you...And that really works in her favor!!

STAY CONNECTED.......B R E A T H E.....EAT LOTS OF CHOCOLATE and update when you can. We would LOVE to see pictures of Molly!! BullDogs are soooo ADORABLE!!! 🙂

Lots of hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Molly and family, welcome. I've been thinking about you all day, sorry I just now was able to get back here. To answer your question:

So Tripawders, any advice? Any insight you can offer into what Molly’s future looks like?

I totally understand your and the vets' hesitation to amputate Molly's limb. Bulldogs do have a heavy front end and it puts even more stress on their bodies to lose that spare limb, especially in front. But as you've seen there have been Bull dogs around who did great on three legs. I'm not a vet, but I've been told that one of the keys to success for any Tripawd of any size or body type is keeping the animal very slim and being super conscientious about their physical activity and fitness level.

Have you seen Bruno's blog? Or read about Sasha the famous osteosarcoma clinical trial survivor? They will definitely inspire you!

Bruiser Bruno: My Tenacious & Triumphant Tripawd

Sasha the Bulldog

Also see: ABC News Story about Bone Cancer Vaccine

Also see:

Tulip the Beautiful Bulldog

Cadence the Bulldog

Mack the Bulldog

Gracie the Bulldog

Carter's Journey

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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Thanks so much for the replies.  We've had a rough weekend and I'm really on the fence right now about whether to put Molly through this major surgery for a "chance" at reducing her pain, or to just hug & kiss her all over & set her free.... lots of tears shed last night....I still don't know what to do

if you check out my instagram, there are videos (and no shortage of pics!) of her moving around this past week (it's easier than trying to email video files to the oncologist). I also went and bought a bunch of carpet runners to make getting around easier for her, which she clearly appreciates. 

http://instagra...../jdcairo 

throughout the weekend Molly was really tired, not very lively and there were a few times she yelled in pain - definitely NOT the existence we want for her.  She is hopping around the house at full speed when food is involved, but not much motivation aside from that.  IF we were to go ahead and amputate, she would definitely adapt, probably quicker than most since she's already basically moving like a tripawd, just with an extra leg dragging along.  My concern is that the wear and tear on her remaining arthritic elbow would cause her new pain.  She's always been a very lean and athletic bulldog, so that's all good. Plus she's been on gabapentin since her diagnosis 4 mos ago, (along w Percocet, amantadine and meloxicam) so her pain is about as managed as it can get right now, and there shouldn't be too much in the way of constipation, etc from pain meds unless it's from the IV drugs they use in surgery. But there again, she's been through so many procedures these last few months, and we only had those problems after her bone aspirate biopsy.  It's really just a question of Will Amputation Give Her More Pain Free Days?  Plus she is due for chemo #5 in 10 days.... I don't even know if they can even DO surgery right now because her blood clotting is compromised, etc.  I'll get her into surgery today if this will make it better for her, I guess I'm just not convinced it will....

As she's been on Gaba for months now, maybe she won't have too much in the way of phantom pain ...

just wishing I could see into the future, and see whether this helps her and rejuvenates her or just puts her through more pain and trauma for her final few weeks.... maybe once I hear back from the vet team, I'll have more info to help.  Our primary vet (and her entire team) has been AMAZING, the minute she told us Molly's OSA diagnosis, she gave us her cell # and has been unbelievably accessible night and day, going above & beyond in ways I know our previous vet never would have (we only switched vets 2-3 mos before Molly started limping, and I'm thankful every day that we did) As for the oncology vet, she's wonderful and clearly very good at what she does, but the support team she has is frustratingly inept, and it's painful to try and get in contact with her when you need or want answers. Dr Amazing sent Dr Oncology the X-rays and exam report on Thurs for 2nd opinion, and we're just still waiting to hear back.... I'm hoping we hear SOMETHING today.  Maybe then we'll know what to do...

thanks again for the insight and support. It's nice to know that we're not alone in this

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Molly and Family,

I was just catching up on your bully girl's story. Wow, you have all been through a lot and are definitely fighting the good fight. I hope that you were able to hear something today. I really believe that there are a lot of times during a cancer battle that there just isn't a right or wrong answer. That certainly isn't easy to accept and trust me I wish that I could believe that advice when I am in the throws of an emotional decision but I really do believe that the best any of us can do for these precious buddies is to take all the information we can reasonably gather and make the choice that seems best for us and our kiddos at that moment. Whatever we choose we will undoubtedly wonder if it was the "right" choice and I believe that if your decision is made with love that it will always be the right decision.

Please keep us posted on what you find out, what you are feeling and how Miss Molly is doing.

We are all rooting for you and sending our love.

Love, Amy & Rusty

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Can only DITTO Amy. You are doing your himework and you are getting advice from professionals. I do wish you had as good a relationship with the Onco as you do with the Surgeon.

Dr "Amazing" is an Orthopedic Surgeon and he believes Molly is a good candidate, is that correct?

As far as the chemo in ten days, it probably wouldn't have any negative effect to delaynit an additional seven to ten days or so. Is it Carboplatin?

The blood clotting SHOLUD be something that the surgery team woukd be fully prepared to handle IF you proceed. Certainly your concerns are valid.

Because of a variety of reasons, amputation is not for every dog. You clearly love Molly beyond words. I believe your deep loving bond for Molly will help guide you.

We are here to support you in any and every way possible. Hopefully after consulting with Dr Onco you will jave more clarity.

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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PS...Wasnt able to see Molly's instagram pic darn it!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Here's a good link to Molly's Instagram photos. What a cutie! Can you see this Sally?

https://www.ins.....m/jdcairo/

I hope you'll hear back soon. The waiting really stinks, I know. You may get a kick out of Dr. Sarah Boston's book, Lucky Dog. She's a vet grad from the University of Guelph and writes about her own experience with cancer. At least if you read it you'll keep your mind off the waiting 😉

Meanwhile, I see your hesitation. In fact I saw a Bulldog yesterday and thought of your Molly. I can totally see why a front-leg amp on a Bully with an arthritic elbow would be such a concern. Although many Tripawds have had arthritis before the amputation, the ones I am thinking of weren't Bulldogs. They have such a unique body type and stance.

This is what struck me about your thoughts:

 I'll get her into surgery today if this will make it better for her, I guess I'm just not convinced it will....

In your heart, if you are not convinced even with all the best opinions out there, then you have already decided in a sense. You know Molly better than anyone else. Going with your gut feeling in these cases is so important. I would love nothing more than to see her enjoy many happy days ahead, but I don't know her the way you do. Keep having that heart-to-heart with her, and look into your heart and you will come up with the answer.

We are all thinking of you and hoping for a speedy response from the vets. Keep us posted OK?

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Hi guys, (I'm Julia btw)

Yes, Molly had a pretty crappy weekend, so yesterday I worked from home to be with her/keep an eye on her and she was acting like her old self again - using the leg a bit but moving around, following me around the house, playing with her toys, and the only whining was when I was washing out her kibble bin ("magically" the whining stopped when I set it down and let her lick it clean while I washed the lid, lol).  She was very snuggly last night after playing and running around, but not that much more so than her pre-cancer 9 yr old self.  She's also doing good this am, so I am feeling *much* better about her pain levels and her future.  I know there will be ups and downs, but a few down days in a row can really get to you  - I'm sure you can all relate.  

Thank you all again for the support & understanding (and HUGS).  Still no word from the onco, but I forgot she doesn't work Mondays.  Should hear back today, I know Dr. Amazing is on the case 😉   

benny55 - yes, she's on Carboplatin.  Dr Amazing isn't an ortho surgeon specialist, no, just a fabulous, caring vet who I trust 100% has Molly's best interest at heart.  For anyone else living on Vancouver Island who is looking for a wonderful vet, go see Dr. Sandie Landa at Harbour City Animal Hospital.  She and her entire team are wonderful.  I thought our previous vet back in Edmonton was great, so that bar was set really high, but Sandie blows them out of the water.  I am thankful every damn day for her and her team. 

benny55 your comment "took me about three weeks before I could finally say I did this FOR my Happy Hannah and not TO her" hits home 100%.  I can't lie, I am sure I'll be on that same track - when she had one night of being violently ill from carbo, I was.  Years ago our Bullmastiff had knee surgery and the recovery was not fun.  Many nights of me sleeping next to her in the living room, her butt in a sling for every potty break, seeing those horrible staples make her look like Frankendog's monster....I knew why we were putting her through that and that her recovery was guaranteed.  When that same dog (Cairo) came home after surgery from bloat, we knew how blessed we were that she was still with us and we knew her suffering would be short lived.  With Molly, it's the uncertainty of whether or not this *will* put a stop to any suffering she has.  My crystal ball is on the fritz....

Jerry - thanks for the book recommendation, I'll check that out for sure.  And yes, its that svelt Bulldog figure on a arthritic leg that has me a bit concerned, but seeing Tulip get around on her 3 legs at the same age gives me a tremendous amount of hope, so thank you for those links as well.  And you're right, Monday morning, after watching her in pain for days, I was leaning much more towards "end her suffering" than "put her through major surgery for a *chance* at improving her quality of life"  Today I've flipped and I'm feeling very Pro-"take the leg!" and confident she'll adapt and be back to her usual self once she recovers. Of course, ever-looming is the fact that the cancer can always rear it's ugly head at any time, but we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it.

So even though Molly has arthritis in the good leg, I am hopeful she can thrive because she has always been a lean and athletic bulldog (isn't that an oxymoron??).  I didn't know bulldogs could fly until we got Molly.  Pre-cancer Molly used to regularly leap OVER THE BACK OF OUR SOFA from the back to go get her toy, and nothing has ever stood in her way.  Until 5 months ago, she was still a 3 yr old bulldog, not 9.  We'll do what we can to keep her lean and minimize excess stress on that good leg (Sorry Molly, that means mama is still going to lift you in and out of the car and off the sofa and the window-bench and all of the things you used do you yourself even thought you hate it when I do).  Of course all of this is hypothetical until we hear back from Dr. Onco.  

the wait continues...... thanks again everyone, I'll keep you posted!

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Finally heard back from Dr Onco after she & Dr Sandie had a chance to confer.  Molly is tentatively scheduled for amputation next Friday, provided her blood work (tomorrow) shows her numbers are in a good range. She was scheduled for chemo on the Thursday, but now that will be postponed by 1-2 weeks.  So knowing surgery recovery is 1-2 weeks and chemo usually takes a toll on her for a few days to a week, we're realistically looking at a rough few weeks, but hopefully a happy, pain-free girl after that. Deep breaths until then, and fingers crossed her blood cell counts are good.  Oh, and she'll also get another X-ray to ensure there are no lesions.

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Oh wow that's awesome they agreed she's a candidate!

She may not have a hard time, not all animals do. Some totally defy expectations and bounce back pretty quickly. It's important to be realistic and know that yeah, she could take a while, but she could also surprise you too. Stay strong and optimistic and the recovery phase will be behind you before you know it.

We'll keep our paws & fingers crossed for good pre-op test results!

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We're with you the whole way!!! YOU ARE NOT ALONE!! 🙂

You've done your research, you are being guided by the professionals...and you are listening to your heart. Thats the best any of us can do. This piece of crap disease makes us consider some really hard "forced chpices with no clear glimpse into what the future holds.

You jave a plan and you are moving forward! So continue with the spoiling and the great photos!! Eat CHOCOLATE!

Oh, thanks Jerry! I DID get to see those precious photos of cutie pie Molly!! 🙂 🙂

Hugs!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Ok, results are in... Molly's lungs are lesion-free 🎉 And her blood cell counts are good.  So...

**DEEP BREATH**

Next Friday morning Molly goes in for surgery.  I'm riding the rollercoaster of emotions about the whole thing (I figure I'm on that ride for a while). Yesterday I was calm and confident in our decision. This morning I'm still sure we're doing the right thing but weepy & emotional about it all.  

We're also sending her leg off to Dr Onco for histology after surgery.  Molly has gone through some treatments (SRS) that are still fairly new in vet medicine, and they don't often get to see specimens after SRS.  I am more than happy to have Molly's bum leg do some real good and help them learn more about treatment of OSA and what happens post-SRS. If her leg can help future dogs get faster/better/more effective treatment for this foul disease, then I feel *some* good will have come from all of this.

My biggest worry for the next few days will be keeping our little social butterfly/party animal/attention hound calm and quiet this weekend while my brother-in-law, his wife & our nieces are staying with us.  Molly ***LOVES*** people and has a hard time turning off her brain when there are people to visit with, especially kids.  

Benny55, 🍫 wayyyyy ahead of you on the chocolate.  Molly's cancer battle should've been sponsored by Lindt 😉

One week to go...... 



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Molly's photo shows a very happy dog. I hope the party animal can settle down with all of the excitement over the weekend. By your description of the vet's location I assume you are on Vancouver Island. I'm up in Comox where my cat Mona had her leg amputated 3 years ago. Thankfully she didn't have to go through other treatments because the amputation caught the cancer before it could spread.

Next week you'll probably want to start thinking about Molly's recovery space at home. You'll probably find some information from Jerry's reading list or just ask here for what you need. One suggestion I have is to find out some details from the surgeon before the surgery when it is less stressful. You may want to know about the pain meds Molly will go home with, taking care of the incision, when Molly will go home, if you can visit at the clinic, food. Some vets don't send the animals home with enough pain meds yet you'll find it's essential to help them during the early recovery. Of course, keep in touch here and stock up on Lindt, or Callebaut if you can get it shipped out from Calgary.

Most dogs don't seem to suffer from chemotherapy, they tend to tolerate it much better than humans. I think you said that Molly was sick from the Carboplatin. I believe the vet can help with this by changing the dosage or using anti-nausea medication. Others here can help you with some ideas if its still a problem.

Hugs to you and Molly.

Kerren and Tripawd Kitty Mona

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