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Devastation: Lung Mets
13 January 2011
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It is with a heavy heart that I am signing in to tell everyone that Alexander has lung mets. There is nothing we can do but make him comfortable now. He is still happy and himself right now. I pray that Alexander will tell us when it is time to let go, and we can say goodbye with dignity.

 

Thank you everyone for your continuous support and love. I'm sure I will be on here looking for guidance a lot over the next few weeks…..

Alexander The Great Dane Suspected Osteosarcoma July 12 Diagnosed Officially 7/16/2010 Amputated 7/27/2010 Became Spirit Xander 2/20/2011
13 January 2011
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this is sad news indeed.  our thoughts are with you, hugs to that big brave boy!!!

charon & gayle

Life is good, so very, very good!!! Gayle enjoyed each and every moment of each and every wonderful day (naps included).  She left this world December 12, 2011 – off on a new adventure. Love Never Ends http://etgayle
13 January 2011
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Oh NO!  How awful!  I am so very sorry to hear this.  Please, please, please don't forget that there are many dogs on here that live a LONG time after lung mets were found.  I am so happy to hear that he is happy and still enjoying life.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Sue and Queen Nova

Dane Mom Sue at nova.tripawds.com and Mom to Beautiful Great Dane Nova, a Blind Tripawd… Kicking Cancer's Butt Since 11/08
13 January 2011
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I am so sorry.  Ajax's amputation was just a few weeks before Xander's, so I followed his early progress.  I am sending good thoughts — I think the most comforting thing for me is to remember that unlike a human relative you may have had fighting cancer, Xander doesn't know – so it is ok to be happy with him!  Maybe that's just me, but it makes me feel better.

13 January 2011
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Thank you everyone….I know there are dogs living with mets, but our vet said 4-6 weeks! Is this crazy or what?!?! I am just so mad….but trying to be happy around him…….ugh

Alexander The Great Dane Suspected Osteosarcoma July 12 Diagnosed Officially 7/16/2010 Amputated 7/27/2010 Became Spirit Xander 2/20/2011
13 January 2011
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I am so sorry to hear this.

We haven't had to address this part of the journey with Catie and I can't speak from experience. I know you must be shocked and disappointed and saddened and scared, particularly with your vet's prognosis. I also believe, however, that you will know – whether through Alexander's silent communication  and entreaty or your own pawrental intuition – when it will be time to let him go. In the meantime – and I say this because it's how I hope I will be when Catie's time comes – try not to let the fear and anxiety over a yet-to-be-unfolded tomorrow rob a moment of any pleasure in your time with Alexander today.

Many hugs to you and that beautiful boy of yours.

Catie - Birthday – November 4 2003 Amputation – January 13 2010 Crossed the Bridge – June 2 2011  Catie Caitlin 
13 January 2011
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I'm so sorry to hear about Xander!crying But as I'm sure you've already read from all the posts on Tripawds… that so many dogs can live many, many more happy months with their lung mets. Just look at Jerry Dawg!

All I can tell you for right now is to cherish each and every single day you have with Xander (I'm sure you've already been doing that!). Take lots of pictures and videos… do special things together…

Sending you and Xander a big fat hug!!

Angel Jake and Wolfie's Mom

Jake, 10yr old golden retriever (fractured his front right leg on 9/1, bone biopsy revealed osteosarcoma on 9/10, amputation on 9/17) and his family Marguerite, Jacques and Wolfie, 5yr old german shepherd and the newest addition to the family, Nala, a 7mth old Bengal mix kittie. Jake lost his battle on 11/9/2009, almost 8 weeks after his surgery. We will never forget our sweet golden angel… http://jakesjou.....ipawds.com ….. CANCER SUCKS!
13 January 2011
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We are so sorry to hear.  We are just at the beginning of our journey so have not had to address this part of it yet.  We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.  Love and play with your beautiful boy like there is no tomorrow.  Hugs to you both!

13 January 2011
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Xander's Mom,

Again, please don't forget how often our vets "lowball" survival times. I know first hand that the numbers the vet gives you are total BS. 26 months ago Nova's oncologist told us it would be a miracle if she made it to a year, and we'd be lucky with 6 months.  Well we are over TWO years now, 26 months. Plus, I have no clue whether my girl has lung mets or not.  We haven't had xrays in a long, long time. I hope and I pray that Xander proves your vet WRONG.

Hug your boy, love your boy and be strong for him.  He will tell you when it's time. It is clearly not now! It's so unfair when they are young like Xander, it just plain sucks.  God, I wish I knew what to say to comfort you.

You are constantly in my thoughts and prayers…. there is a very special place there for Danes! Non-Dane pawrents cannot ever totally understand the bond we share with these big kids, but I do.

Licks and Leans,

Sue and Nova

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13 January 2011
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xanderdane said:

…our vet said 4-6 weeks! Is this crazy or what?!?!

Yes. we don't want to provide false hope, but vets usually tend to give the worst case scenario prognosis. Did you see the x-rays?

Jerry lived a happy life for nearly nine months after we discovered hs lung mets. Not until they consumed all but 50% of one lung did he show real discomfort. Dogs can cope with much less lung capacity than people. And we have been told lung metastases are not painful, only uncomfortable and tiring when severe.

Yes, the news is devastating, but this is by no means he end. Please try to remember to enjoy every moment in the Now with Xander. He is not dying from cancer! Only living with it.

We attribute Jerry's longevity to the K9 Immunity and Metronomics we started him on after he metastasized. And be sure to check out the recent Tripawds Download… Canine Osteosarcoma: Lung Metastasis Treatments

Hope this helps, even if only a bit. Give Xander a good ear rub for us.

"Dogs are born with three legs and a spare."
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13 January 2011
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I need to add my concurrence to all the great advice that you received above. Luckily, I NEVER discussed life expectancy with any of Miss Cherry's care teams. It was always about the quality of life. Had we ever had such a discussion, I am sure that I too would have been told such a short time because of many additional complications in her prognosis. I NEVER had the courage to take additional lung xrays looking for Mets. I also knew that my response to her and my devotion to my time with her would not change regardless of the outcome of any such diagnostic. Please – stay as upbeat around Alexander as you possible can. I know that this can be a very difficult thing to do, but Alexander will enjoy his time better if he feels that you are enjoying it also.

One last thing about "Life Expectancy". My sister is an MD, who never wanted anything more than to heal people. Unfortunately, her son Alex, was diagnosed at the age of ten with inoperable brain tumor. With his prognosis, his life expectancy was less than a year, with less than a 10% chance of making it for two years. She was able to keep him for nearly three years and he was able to make the trip from Chicago out here to the Bay Area just two months before we lost him. I know that it is so unfair – I know that it is so unjust – I know that it is maddening beyond all reasonableness. However, for the sake of the enjoying the best quality of life you can give Alexender at this time, do not focus on how short it may be, but rather focus on how full you can make it.

Spirit Cherry's Dad

13 January 2011
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Xander, we know this kind of news is hard for humans to take. But rest assured, mets don't mean "the end" in such a short period of time. Today in fact we just met a 12 year old Malamute who was diagnosed with OS in November 2007, and he has had mets for TWO YEARS!

Seriously. Two years. This amazing boy started out with three mets, and with metronomics, the tumors shrunk down to just one! We'll have a story in the news blog about him soon.

So please keep your folks calm and centered, and let them know that even mets can get their butt's kicked for a good long time.

But meanwhile, we do send our love out to you as always. Stay in touch OK?

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13 January 2011
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Im SO sorry to hear the news. Having recently gone through the same thing I know all too well how devastating this is to hear. I made my mantra "when you start missing what isn't gone, you lose what's left". I also adopted the idea of "not today and not without a fight". Tai was a trooper with the lung mets and still had a very high quality of life, she still swam and ran around and played. She didn't have as much stamina as before but other than that it didn't seem to bother her much. I also anguished over knowing when was going to be the right time to concede the fight. As far as a prognosis, my Vet wouldn't give one. And when I asked my Vet what I should do about the lung mets, on first diagnosis, her answer was simple "Love her up".  In the end the decision was taken from me as she developed another ostersarcoma tumor in another leg. 

It's difficult to "be happy" but I think in the end, although it was a struggle, it was of tremendous value to us both.

Enjoy every day, take lots of photos, spend as much time as you can together and make every minute count. In short "Love him up".

On a more practical note, and sadder one, I would also recommend making some plans for when the time comes to say goodbye. I made a preemptive call to a Vet who does house calls and got information on home euthansia etc. Although it was a hard call to make it did provide some comfort in having a plan.

Big hugs coming your way and lots of lab licks.

Laura (Angel Tai's Mum) and Kali

Tai – 9 yr old lab. Diagnosed Osteosarcoma Dec 18/09. Front right leg amputated Dec 21/09. Started chemo Jan 7/10. Lung mets discovered Sept 16/10. Valiant to the end on Oct 26/10 when cancer reappeared in a leg and we made the decision to set her free. Forever in my heart where not even cancer can take her from me.
13 January 2011
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Great advice Laura. Making arrangements is a hard thing to talk about but ultimately it's such an emotional lifesaver to have already arranged it when you really need it. Hopefully with our Tripawd heroes fighting cancer, it won't be for a very long time.

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13 January 2011
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I am very sorry to hear your news.

Without any more information, 4-6 weeks sounds like a ball rolling on the ground, not just a low ball. Were these routine x-rays, or did Alexander have some symptoms that led you to have the x-rays done? As Jerry said, was there something about the x-rays that led them to give such a figure?

I remember (okay, this is memory so blame me and not the good doctor if I have it wrong) Pam saying something like dogs on chemo on average (only an average) get lung mets after 7-8 months, and then live about 4-5 months.

In any case, it seems most dogs on this site with lung mets have continued a few months and many for much much longer than that (hence Paris, Fortis, Jerry, and so on). Tika, Yoda and Caira Sue were probably around the usual time frame of a few months, but they romped, played, hunted rabbits (poor rabbit), chased frisbees and generally lived hard and well even after they started to have bouts of symptoms (but felt pretty darn good between those bouts).

Once Tazzie had a met growth on his leg, the vet would assume this really dark look that indicated he did not have much time. I had no idea what she was thinking, maybe days or a week or two (rather than months), for he was perfectly happy and hearty. It seemed to take a couple of months after the met showed up before she realized that he was truly happy and engaged in life, and stopped looking so dark. Maybe vets are just afraid that we will prolong things after the dog is uncomfortable, but I sure wish they'd help us do our best to embrace the dog's zest for life while it is there. As the owner, we can tell when they lose their interest in continuing.

For now, I like Laura's advice to 'try not to miss what isn't gone'. Tazzie was the one who could cheer me up when I had those brooding thoughts, just by watching him play and realizing he was still completely happy.

We hope you have many more happy times with your beautiful Alexander.

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