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Hi everybody 🌹

I have been largely absent from the site since Eurydice earned her wings June 12th but nevertheless have kept you all in my heart and am forever thankful for all the support me and my girl had for over a year ✊🏽💕

I will start posting regularly and welcoming new members as soon as I feel ready to become active again which no doubt will happen in the future. 

In the meantime, I've been in contact with a number of people in Portugal and France who found themselves in our position.

There are two separate recent situations where I would really appreciate your help and advice, as none of their pawrents speaks English. 

One is a 5 1/2 year old Great Dane boy and the other a 7 1/2 year old Great Dane girl. 

The girl (called Flo) had a CT scan and the boy (called Archa) had an X-ray.

Those were performed as both started limping and were misdiagnosed, as it sadly happens so often. 

The results for both Danes show masses in the upper part of the leg very near the hip and their vets say amputation cannot be performed due to the location of the lesion. 

This all happened today so their extremely worried Moms are both waiting to see an oncologist at Lyon hospital next week. 

At this point, osteo is not 100% confirmed but their vets are pointing very firmly in that direction.

Does any of you have any experience with this kind of location for primary tumours?

Did any of your dogs have surgery regardless of this specific location? 

If not, was radiotherapy an option ?

Did it work ?

Archa and Flo's Mom's are truly devastated and having been there myself, as all of you, I would be grateful for any advice you could give and will pass it on immediately. 

Million thanks from Archa and Flo 🐮🐮

Sending you a big hug and angel's slobbery kisses from goofy Eurydice 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Teresa you are such a gift to those folks and everyone you make contact with, thank you so much.

The odds of OSA appearing in those locations, in two different dogs, is so crazy low, we rarely see it here. So what the vet is saying is that it's too close to the hip to get good margins? If so, what about a hemipelvectomy, where part of the hip is removed? We've seen members go through this procedure quite a few times. Has that been discussed?

As for palliative radiation therapy, point them to Hazel the Great Dane palliative radiation therapy story. I think they will see that it's a viable option if amputation is not, as long as they can afford the cost (which his pretty high). 

Thank you again for being there for these folks, and for asking for feedback here!

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Awww Teresa, I'm so glad your friends have you as a resource and as a support.   I know you will give them incredible amount of guidance as they navigate through their journey wherever it may take them.

Hope Jerry's links give them some insight on options.

And for goodness sakes, we always feel your presene and Eurydice's presence too.  You don't need to be "on the site".  You two are "here" with us everyday.  You have given us so many gifts and so many kife lessens that will stay with us all furever!heart

I spoke eith someone on the Helpline today who had a "large" dog in need of amputation.  Obviously she was concerned about how a big dog, front legger, could handle it.  Once she heard about MIS COW, she felt far more confident!

Thank you Eurydice! 🙂heart

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Hi Rene 🌺

Thank you so much for the advice and for your kind words 💕

Yes, I suppose there aren't good margins but at the moment we haven't got enough feedback to understand what is going on in detail.

Both Moms are waiting to meet an oncologist who will hopefully explain what the situation is, up to now they only saw their vets who obviously aren't knowledgeable enough to deal with such a complicated scenario ... 

I'd never hear about the hemipelvectomy before so was cheering madly and jumping up and down with joy (and Angel Eurydice too) as all of a sudden surgery might be possible  for these big cuties after all ! 

As for Hazel's Tripawd Tuesday I'd seen it yesterday and directed them to the blog, it is such an incredible example of how a 9 year old Dane can be so happy and enjoy life to the full 💓🐮💓

How can I get in contact with Hazel's pawrents to get more info?

Are they on Tripawds? 

Thank you again for your precious help, I've already texted both Moms with the info. 

I'll keep you posted on the progress, it might be useful to others who might be facing a similar problem with their fluffies. 

Sending you a huge bear hug 💕🐻💕 and lots of happy woof woofs from the sky 😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Hi Sally 🌻

You are an angel, a marvellous  angel 💝 are you sure your DNA was not mixed with some cute Mastiff at some point in time ? 

Thank you so much for your lovely words and for keeping me and Eurydice always close to you and the Tripawd family 💕 

I do think about you all every day and consider myself lucky (despite the horrible circumstances under which we all met) to call you all close friends.

I am so glad Rene and Jim started Tripawds, they too are wonderful angels 💕

And how truly lovely to hear our Eurydice encouraged and inspired another family to start their journey 💓🐮💓

I am sure she was winking at you from above today 😉🐮

Sending you a huge bear hug 🐼 and lots and lots of slobbery kisses from the sky 😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Paw shucks, thanks Teresa!

How can I get in contact with Hazel's pawrents to get more info?

Are they on Tripawds? 

I will make an introduction over email today. You will enjoy speaking with them, they're great people like you 🙂

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Hi Teresa

Im sorry I can’t be of much help with information regarding hind leg and possible hip amputation, Stewie had his FL leg removed 3 months ago, due to Osteosarcoma.

What I would like to add though is major cudos to you for helping your friends! You have already been through this with your darling Eurydice and now you are opening up your heart again for these people... you’re a very brave and beautiful person for doing that! Maybe that could be on Jim & Rene’s future bucket list.... A translator for all world members!winker 

I also know that your  are going to get some great advice from some wonderful and (sadly) experienced people, who can offer support and suggestions. We also offer our hearts, in the hope that strength comes with numbers.big-blink

Please pass on to your friends that they have another Tripawds member offering healing and loving thoughts through to Archa & Flo! heartclap🍗🍖🥓🍔🧀🍧🍨🍦❤️❤️❤️

Sloppy kisses from Stewie👅🐾
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Stewie adopted his Pack in 2015. He has 3 feline siblings, Mr. Spike🐾 Chester Molester🐾 & Miss Lily🐾He was diagnosed with OSC on July 5th 2017 and had his left front leg amputated on July 10th 2017. He is our Tripawds Super Hero!🐾❤️                                         http://stewie20.....pawds.com/

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Hi everybody 🌷

Here are the developments concerning treatment for possible inoperable bone tumour  located on the hip. 

1. Cyber Knife Radiation 

So ... thanks to Rene I contacted Joel (Hazel's Dad) to get more info on cyber knife radiation and would like to share it with you.

Joel was fantastically wonderful and provided all the info so we can understand how it works. 

Cyber knife differs from normal palliative radiation because the radiation dose is much higher and extremely precise.

Based on 3D images captured during a CT scan or MRI an analyst maps the various angles the radiation can be delivered and finds the combination of angles that provide the greater dose to the tumour. By doing so healthy tissue will not be hit as it would with traditional radiation. 

The high dose of radiation to the tumour is quite effective at slowing down its growth and eliminates pain very effectively. 

Statistics show cyber knife combined with carboplatin represent an average survival of 11 months, much better than traditional radiation. 

Dogs must be under general anestesia and most protocols consist on a 5 session treatment, five days in a row.

Anestesia is not as high a dose as for a normal surgery as the aim here is simply to get the dog imobilized during 1h to complete the treatment.

The treatment lasts for many months (in Hazel's case 7 months of a pain free, happy life) and can be repeated in the future.

There is no maximum amount of times it can be repeated but the snag here is radiation weakens the bone so the risk of a pathological fracture is there and has to be taken into consideration. 

The aim of cyber knife radiation is to slow the tumour growth and shrink it and at the same it reduces substancially the pain for the dog.

Hazel showed no side effects from the treatment. 

2. Calcium injections

This is brand new to me.

I spoke to Archa's Mom tonight (she is seeing oncologist tomorrow) to let her know about cyber knife radiation and she told me one of her friends mentioned her best friend (human) has inoperable osteosarcoma.

She did chemo but tumour was unresponsive so her oncologist proposed an experimental treatment which consists of calcium injections once a month. 

She started those eight months ago and the tumour is stabilised since then! 

How it works is calcium wraps around the tumour and that stops it from growing and from spreading.

Of course, dosage has to be calculated individually and monitored with blood tests. 

So, Cathy wants to try that with Archa as it can do no harm and can be combined with chemo in Archa's case. 

I feel really happy right now as I was told about these two possibilities, wouldn't it be marvellous if we could tackle this horrid disease ? 

I just feel we are getting closer and closer, even if Eurydice could never live long enough to be saved my heart is full of joy just thinking at some point others will be able to live their lives and no longer fear osteosarcoma. 

Sending you all a huge hug, cuddles and lots of happy woof woofs from Miss Cow from the sky 😘😘😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Darling Petra, sweetie pie 🌺

Thank you so very much for your kind words 😍 you are such a lovely person, I was really touched ... 

Yes, sadly I could not keep Eurydice with me for even one day longer, the vet told me she would not survive that evening. 

It was very hard, it always is when you love somebody as much as we all love our babies but when their cards are up they have to go and henceforth they will stay with us forever in a different form, that's the truth 🌟🌟🌟

I cannot help Miss Cow any longer but I feel personal about damn cancer 💩💩💩 and am adamant to do everything in my power to help others and to investigate treatments and options as much as I can. 

When a cure is found, ALL our Angels will sing with cheer happiness SO loudly we will be able to hear them from here 😃😃😃

And yes, a translator I will gladly be whenever the need arises 🐾🐾🐾

Take good care of Super Stu (he is incredibly goooooooorgeous 💖) and give him an avalanche of cuddles from auntie Teresa here 💞💞💞💞

Sending you and Paul a zillion hugs and tons of slobbery kisses from above 😘😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Teresa, you have just made me tear up! Seriously! Thank you! You just made my day extra special!😘❤️ 

Stewie is going to get a right good cuddle from you and Paul too! We’re pretty honoured to be kissed by Eurydice, it’s not everyday you get kissed by a Great and Beautiful Angel!  👼 

hugs and kisses right back at you! You’re a very passionate and special person and karma will come back tenfold! 

By the way... I can’t wait to celebrate the day that there is a cure for this horrid, stinkin cancer! It will be a heck of a Tripawds party wouldn’t it?!clapheart

Sloppy kisses from Stewie👅🐾
& all the very best from his adoring pack,
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Stewie adopted his Pack in 2015. He has 3 feline siblings, Mr. Spike🐾 Chester Molester🐾 & Miss Lily🐾He was diagnosed with OSC on July 5th 2017 and had his left front leg amputated on July 10th 2017. He is our Tripawds Super Hero!🐾❤️                                         http://stewie20.....pawds.com/

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Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Super Stu! said
You’re a very passionate and special person and karma will come back tenfold! 

By the way... I can’t wait to celebrate the day that there is a cure for this horrid, stinkin cancer! It will be a heck of a Tripawds party wouldn’t it

DITTO!!!  Miss Cow and Eurydice continue to have a life altering ppsitive impact here on so many levels.!!

Teresa, the information you just shared here is so full of hope and promise!  Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.  heart

And Petra, make no mistake about it, you and Suoer Stu contribute greatly to each ofnus withnyiur heartfelt ppsts, optimism, compassion and wonderful wit!heart

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Sally thank you so much for your incredibly kind words... you guys are making me blush! 🤗

Speaking of pawsitive posts and a caring heart, you are the Queen of the Tripawds Super Cheerleading Team! 👸🏻superstar 

So I have to be honest with you all, Stewie is the one with the wonderful wit, I’m just full of British sarcasm! 😜😋 I sometimes can’t help myself!way-confused

Yes, you have me at the compassionate part... I balled my head off in the movie “Where The Red Fern Grows” and I refuse to watch old yeller!sad I think all of us are completely full of compassion, or we wouldn’t be talking on this wonderful site that’s called Tripawds! I already feel like I have made quite a few friends amongst you all and I feel truly blessed to have met you all! Thank you to Rene, Jim & of course our super star angel Jerry! ⭐️ 🐕  👼 ❤️

Sloppy kisses from Stewie👅🐾
& all the very best from his adoring pack,
Petra, Paul, & his feline siblings, Mr. Spike, Chester Molester & Miss Lily 🐾🐾
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Stewie adopted his Pack in 2015. He has 3 feline siblings, Mr. Spike🐾 Chester Molester🐾 & Miss Lily🐾He was diagnosed with OSC on July 5th 2017 and had his left front leg amputated on July 10th 2017. He is our Tripawds Super Hero!🐾❤️                                         http://stewie20.....pawds.com/

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Just a quick update on Archa and Flo 🐮🐮

They were seen by a very competent oncologist at Lyon cancer centre today, and:

Archa did a CT scan this afternoon, I don't know the results yet.

Oncologist says she doesn't think Archa can get an amputation due to the location of the tumour but will give final advice when she sees scan results. 

Flo did a biopsy to check whether tumour is cancerous.

Oncologist says Flo can get an amputation if it is a malign tumour. 

Will keep you posted.

Love and cuddles to everyone 😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Hey everybody 🌺

Here's update on Archa!

He had his scan results today and it's better than initially thought 😃

No mestastases anywhere and his tumour is located at the top of the femur but does not touch the hip as initially suspected.

His Mom Cathy is waiting for biopsy results next week which hopefully will confirm whether it is osteo or not.

I'm keeping fingers and toes crossed that it won't be Osteo 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

I'm visiting them next Monday and will post some pictures.

Cathy asked me to pass her most heartfelt thanks to all of the Tripawds family on her behalf and Archa's 🌷🐮

She is really moved by how people she does not know can root so much for her and her baby 💕

I must also thank enormously Joel, Hazel's Dad who provided invaluable information on cyber knife and is also keeping his fingers crossed for Archa and Flo 🙏🏼🐮🐮🙏🏼

Tripawds is, indeed, the best place to be when one is faced with 💩💩💩💩 cancer 

Thank you all 💐 will keep you posted as soon as biopsies' results are available.

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Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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