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Should we amputate now or later?
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Portage Lake, Maine
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Sorry about that...yes!  there IS a happy ending to my Maggie's journey!  See her blog as Karen pointed out big-blink

It's just that I was NOT prepared at all for the two weeks of HELL...(didn't find this site until 2 months after maggie's surgery)....it's nice to be prepared or at least forewarned..

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

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abbydog said:

I see a continuing reference to how difficult the first two weeks are after amputation. I would like to be prepared for that and what would be needed to have and to expect. I am sure there is a section of this site that is specifically about the first two weeks post-op. I just cannot find it. 

 

This site is positive about amputation, which is good and we need that support. But we have also seen other web sites that were not so positive with some dogs becoming fixated on the lost leg and continually licking the surgery site, no appetitie and very listless. It is like they were affected mentally.


Hi Abby Dog,
 

I hope that Maggie pointing you to Jerry's Required Reading list has helped (thanks Maggie!). We try to cover everything we can there, but all situations are so different. Dogs are like people, with their own unique pawsonalities and approaches to living and healing. Some of us can tolerate change and illness really well, others of us fall apart. Everyone has a slightly different story to tell, but in general, all of us go through a rough couple of weeks. And typically, it's worse for the humans than the dogs.

I wrote this article a while back that might also help, I"ll be sure to add it to our list: How to Care for a Dog After Amputation Surgery. Hope it helps.

While we are positive about how amputation can help, we don't want to sugar coat it either. We hope we've presented the good and bad here to help you with this hard decision.

Meanwhile, can I ask what site you're referring to? I'm just curious. Thanks!

 

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23 June 2010 - 2:53 pm
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Just jumping in to add...

Maxidad is a "just the facts" police officer! surprised

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Her Retired AvatarComet - 1999 to 2011

She departed us unexpectedly  January 23, 2011 at the age of 12 1/2.

She was born with a deformed front leg and a tripawd all of her life.

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23 June 2010 - 2:59 pm
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just to jump in, have you read the book "Without Regret".  it really helps us with many questions about ampawtation, etc…we were about a week into 'hell weeks', when i found this great site, so we felt around on our own blindly until then…

charon & gayle

Life is good, so very, very good!!! Gayle enjoyed each and every moment of each and every wonderful day (naps included).  She left this world December 12, 2011 – off on a new adventure.

Love Never Ends

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23 June 2010 - 3:10 pm
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And...I'd like to add - we aren't really "pro" amputation like you may think.  The only reason the website was created by Jerry and admin was because there was no place to turn to those that had to amputate.  We are actually a 3-legged dog website.  I've never had an amputation (non cancer dog - deformed leg). So, please don't think we are trying to talk you into something because we think amputation is the only solution.  We just have collective experience.

We are just saying, don't be afraid of amputation, if it gives your Abby a pain free life.  The main concern is the cancer and how to get rid of it including the pain associated with it. 

Maybe our resident vet, Pam (tazziedog) can help give you one more medical opinion.  She, too had a amputated dog from cancer.

 

 

 

 

 

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She departed us unexpectedly  January 23, 2011 at the age of 12 1/2.

She was born with a deformed front leg and a tripawd all of her life.

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23 June 2010 - 3:16 pm
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cometdog said:

... we aren't really "pro" amputation like you may think... So, please don't think we are trying to talk you into something because we think amputation is the only solution.  We just have collective experience. 


 

Well said, thank you. "We" are not pro amputation, rather pro quality of life post amputation.

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As everyone has mentioned, it is extremely hard to determine how much pain your baby is in. 

Our Brandy girl was very active, running and playing.  We had just pulled up to the house after a long hard walk (which she really enjoyed).  She jumped out of the back seat of the truck and she seemed to have injured herself a little and showed a little lameness in the leg.  We took her to the vet and her doctor pulled and pressed on the area that seemed to be causing her limp, all Brandy did was sit there and give the Vet kisses.  I really wish she had showed us that she was in pain because the vet sent us home with anti-inflamatories and said to bring her back in 3 weeks if there was no improvement.  3 weeks went by, still had the limp, so we took her in for x-rays.  Turns out she had Osteosarcoma and the bone had fractured due to the tumor.  The vet was so surprised she was not showing pain, let alone able to walk on the affected leg.  Unfortunantly we lost alot of time in between the first signs of the limp to the diagnosis.  Brandy's front leg was amputated a little over a month ago and we could not be happier with our decision and most importantly we have no regrets!  She is doing extremely well, and since the pain from the tumor and broken leg are now gone, she has become her old self again and actually is friskier than she was months ago! 

Every situation is different and whatever choice you do decide to make, have no regrets and enjoy every second you have with your beloved companion!

 

Brandy and family

 

 

 

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23 June 2010 - 5:56 pm
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I'm sorry to be jumping in so late.  I just want to wish you well with your decision - it is not an easy one.  We struggled with it, but have never looked back.  Holly's quality of life is so much better than when she was in pain - and she did a good job hiding her pain from us.  That said, you know your beautiful Abby best, and we're sure that your decision will be made with love.  Best wishes.  We'll support you whatever you decide to do.

Sending hugs and healing thoughts,

Holly and Zuzu and Susan

Holly joined the world of tripawds on 12/29/2009. She has a big little sister, Zuzu, who idolizes Holly and tries to make all of her toys into tripawds in Holly's honor. And she's enjoying life one hop at a time!

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cometdog said:

Just jumping in to add…

Maxidad is a "just the facts" police officer! surprised

(for real!)   


 True, and I'll be the first to admit that twenty years as a cop tends to affect my outlook on things as well as the way I deal with problems.  It's my tendency to identify and summarize a problem, then make a decision and act.  Find it, figure it out, fix it.  I don't like waiting, even sometimes when it wouldn't hurt to do so. So any advice I give tends to come from that perspective as well.
I'm glad to hear you're pretty much decided on amputation.  As for the first two weeks, I won't sugarcoat it – they're going to suck.  Although the doctors will give Abby pain meds, there will be times when they're not enough.  Be prepared for a late-night trip or two to the animal hospital to get your girl a shot for the pain.  There will even be some good days where you think you're over the hump, and then it'll be worse than ever the next day.  The main reason for this is because the nerve endings that used to go to Abby's leg will be severed as well, and they'll be horribly sensitive.  They'll die off in a few weeks, and that's when things will start to improve for good.  But in the meantime, expect Abby to be very sensitive, and have some bad incidents where she tries to lie down and gets a world of pain when she does so on a sensitive spot.  She's used to being able to flop down any way she wants, but that's not going to be possible post-op.  She'll have a very hard time getting comfortable.  If she normally sleeps on the bed with you, that may have to stop for a while because it'll be hard for her to jump up, and even harder to get comfortable.  Consider buying an air mattress so you can sleep on the floor with her on bad nights.  We did that with our dog Max, and it helped.  That way Abby can spread out on the floor (on some sort of padded bedding, of course), and still have the comfort of you next to her.  Eventually the nerves will die and she can lay down however she wants again, but not right away.

And in many ways, you'll suffer just as much.  Even though amputation is the right way to go, I guarantee that the first time you see your dog with three legs, you'll immediately think "What have I done?", followed by a wave guilt and remorse.  You'll probably start second-guessing yourself and think you made the wrong decision, because Abby is going to look pathetic, and that freshly shaved wound will look horrible, to say the least.  And the painful days that follow will be no picnic for you mentally, because you love your dog and it'll tear you apart to see her hurting.  And above all, don't make the mistake of trying to run on little or no sleep, or start to neglect your own meals.  Now more than ever, Abby needs you at your best so you can take care of her.  So take care of yourself first.

But you have to be strong about it.  Once you've made the decision, there's no turning back.  That leg can't be re-attached, so you have to remind yourself that you made a decision and now it's time to stick with it (especially because you don't have any choice).  The time for regrets is over - second guessing yourself is pointless and counterproductive.  Just remember:

  • The nerves will die off.  The pain will fade away, then be gone once and for all.
  • That horrible wound will soon be covered by a layer of peach-fuzz, then light fur, and then Abby's normal coat.  Hard as it is to believe, she'll get her normal fur back.
  • And most important, she'll be free of the dull throbbing pain she's most likely been in for a while.  When our Max became a tripawd, he was more or less behaving like he used to within a month.  We often had to hold him back because he wanted to push himself too hard during the recovery process.  Dogs are far better at getting around disabilities than we are.  Abby will adapt to her situation amazingly quickly.  Probably much quicker than you will.

You're making the right decision.  The hard part is to act on it and not second-guess yourself once it's done.  Keep asking questions, and we'll get you through this.

 

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24 June 2010 - 6:16 am
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I just have to say I love Maxidad's posts.  Factual, informative, to the point, get a grip, deal with it posts.

Thanks "Just the Facts" Police Officer!

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

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maggie said:

I just have to say I love Maxidad's posts.  Factual, informative, to the point, get a grip, deal with it posts.


Ditto! Thanks John!

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Hi Maxidad,

I have read that phantom leg pains can be a problem for the dog. I used to be a baseball pitching coach and our pitchers would get sore elbows and shoulders. A product used for phantom limb pains would help some of the pitchers recover faster. It has also been used for other sports injuries with some success. It is called Farablok, you can Google information about it. It is a metallic fabric that helps with the electrical signals to nerve pulses that are still firing as if the leg were there. I might be able to contact the company to make a special sleeve for a dog to see if it works. That is if it is needed. But how do you know if a dog is having phantom limb pain? You can not ask them.  I wonder if phantom limb pain is a problem that people have ecperienced with their dogs? I am not sure if the nerve endings pain you talked about is the same thing as phantom limb pain. 

Abby dog

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hi,

I did not mean to offend anyone by saying Tripawds is pro-amputation. We all wish our dogs lived happy and healthy and forever. I meant to say that Tripawds promotes the point of view that 3 legged dogs can live healthy and happy lives, and amputation is preferable to a life of pain on 4 legs or no life at all. I believe that too. I have seen several 3 legged dogs now that seem to do just fine, thank you. But in my research I have discovered some information that some dogs do not do well with amputation. I don't know if this is discussed on Tripawds or not. What are the issues that can be a problem, and is there a way to avoid or get around them.

I am finding this site invaluable for the information that is shared. The last thing I would want to do is alienate people who have been so helpful.

Abby dog

 

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One of the things I haven't really seen addressed and wonder if vets and/or owners take into account before amputation is the dog's structure/conformation...can the dog physically take it?  And I'm not talking weight issues but the build of the dog.  I have gone to two Pat Hastings structure seminars thru the years and it sure was an eye opener on conformation.  For instance, how a dog should be built to withstand the rigors of a sport, such as agility.  There are issues such as the forelimbs not being attached well at the elbow that I could easily see would be a SERIOUS issue for a Tripawd - especially a front limb tripawd.  Or the angulation of the rear legs...for instance the comparison of the ChowChow vs the German Shepherd.  The Chow is very 'peg legged' and has legs like a table with little angulation vs. the GSD has alot of angulation and bred to "squat"...  The Chow type dog would have an easier time with being a rear leg amputee vs. a GSD with alot of angulation and already squatting with four legs.  Then there's an issue with the hocks that is common, called slipped hocks where the dog cannot support itself well and that's on four legs.

So, I do think the structure of a dog needs to be taken into account.  Not just size, weight, age, etc.

Just my opinions! wink

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

http://maggie.t.....t-24-2013/

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25 June 2010 - 10:09 am
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abbydog said:

But how do you know if a dog is having phantom limb pain? You can not ask them.  I wonder if phantom limb pain is a problem that people have ecperienced with their dogs? I am not sure if the nerve endings pain you talked about is the same thing as phantom limb pain. 

 


 Interesting.  I've never heard of Farablok, but it sounds like a great product.  As for whether dogs get phantom pains, that's also a good question.  I don't know if it was the same as the phantom pains people get, but something was definitely going on once Max lost his leg.  He'd be lying on the floor half asleep and not moving, and we'd think everything was OK.  Then all of a sudden, he'd let out a bloodcurdling yelp and jump to his feet in obvious pain.  Other times he'd just be sitting still, but moaning or whining because he was in some sort of discomfort.  This lasted a good two weeks, then started to gradually taper off (but with some relapses, so be prepared for that).  He was about 90% better by the end of a month.  But in Max's case, he started chemo right away, so sometimes it was hard to tell if he was feeling crappy because of the amputation or from the treatments. 

From what you've written so far, I don't get the impression chemo will be needed once Abby gets amputated.  So whatever problems occur, you'll know they're caused by the amputation and nothing else.  Once the post-op wound stops discharging, I can't see how it'd be a problem to use this Farablok on Abby.  If it saves you from having to experience even one sudden yelp of pain or session of moaning and whining, it's worth it.  Obviously you should ask your vet about it, but it seems like a good idea.

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