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Our Great Dane, Huckleberry, is about to join the Tripawds Fraternity (cancer in left hind leg).
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25 May 2015 - 10:15 am
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YAY!!! So happy everything went so well!!!  Looking forward to hearing that he is home!!!

We just had our Saint Bernard's hind leg amputated on Friday and he's been home since Saturday.  So far recovery has gone super well, so sending lots of positive vibes your way for a smooth recovery for Huckleberry!!  Our guy is on the small side for a Saint, about 141lbs, but still a bigger dog, just wanted to give you some encouragement from a big dog owner going though it right now too.

Love Huckleberry's pictures and love his name!!!

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25 May 2015 - 1:52 pm
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Oh that's fantastic news! He'll be home before you know it. Take a deep breath and know that we're here for you.

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25 May 2015 - 4:03 pm
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You can't keep a good dog down.....

Just had the morning update from the surgery. The operation was concluded at 5:15pm last night, by 7pm he was already standing up and checking out his surroundings!

He had a comfortable night and this morning has had a walk around and has eaten some chicken!

They applied a fentynal (sp?) patch last night and they're switching off his IV pain meds this morning.

He has some bruising and a bit of seroma (sp?) fluid build up, (which also happened the day after his bloat operation last year, so maybe something he is susceptible to?).

Temperature is on the low end of normal, which is as it was prior tot the procedure yesterday so no real concern there.

Just waiting for the surgeon to come in this morning and assess him, they'll then let us know if he can come home today or tomorrow. I've told them if they are in any doubt then please keep him in, it's fine with us, he'll be monitored and have the best care close at hand so we can cope with another night if need be.

I'll update when I know more.

Thanks again everyone for your kind words and support.

We picked up a firm double foam mattress yesterday so that he has a bed large enough to turn around on without slipping off the side and I'll grab some rubber backed carpet runners today for the had surfaces. I'll grab some rubber boots too.

Tony.

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25 May 2015 - 4:38 pm
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Hey Huckleberry, Tony and Emma! Just got caught up on your posts and wanted to welcome you guys to the Tripawd Nation! So happy the surgery went well and that Huckleberry is up and eating and all. I am sure your vet will tell you bruising and seromas are completely normal, although sometimes kinda scary to look at. In case you have not seen them yet the Tripawds Gear Blog has a page devoted to traction options and tips on how to introduce a dog to wearing boots. Here's hoping for a peaceful, uneventful recovery!

Sending Huckleberry all our tripawd strength to aid in his recovery!!

xoxo,

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26 May 2015 - 9:10 pm
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A quick update.

Picked him up about 5pm, he was so please to see me, he dragged the vet nurse over to me when he saw me!

In and out the car was hard, and car to house was hard going.

He's got a lot of fluid build up under his belly, around his penis. The vet said to watch for an increase in that and let them know. It did get worse by bed time but no worse over night. I've sent them photo's. It's no worse this afternoon, but it is more bruised looking. I'm not sure just how much fluid build up would be normal? I am a little concerned, but it does not seem to be bothering him and is not getting worse.

Last night was hard, we thought he needed the toiled, it was very tough getting him outside and back, trying to support his weight with a towel etc. I think we made it worse for him to be honest. We managed to get him back to bed and he was exhausted.

He's eating like a champ, a full hand-fed dinner last night, and same this morning. He's very bright, wags his tail and no signs of whimpering. He hasn't tried to get at the would as yet and he can turn himself around on his bed.

He slept fine all night, no issues at all.

At 10 this morning he needed a pee, we thought we'd leave him alone more this time and just guide him. He hopped all the way outside, peed and hopped all the way back to bed! It was obviously a huge chore for him, but he did it.

I've just iced swollen thigh muscle again and put some hirudoid cream on the bruised fluid areas, he's quite happy stretched out on his bed snoozing.

I'll update as we go.

Cheers.

Virginia







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26 May 2015 - 9:35 pm
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Nope, can't keep a good dog down! YAAAAAAAAAY FOR HUCKLEBERRY!!! He seems to be doing remarkably well! Now, just so you'll be prepared, sometimes after the hospital meds wear off and he's getting adjusted to his other meds, he may crash a bit...may not either!

My Happy Hannah didn't like a towel sling as help either. Like, you, I ditched it after the first kr second time and she did better without it.

Yeah, swelling like that happens sometimes. Just keep your vet in the loop...could be a seroma .

Give that sweet boy a smooch for us...and a scoop of ice cream too...and save some for you!

Hugs to all!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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27 May 2015 - 9:04 am
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Sounds a lot like our first night too. We had to learn to stand back and find out what Jerry was capable of in those first few days, and like you, we did make it harder than it needed to be by trying to assist too much. It's like watching a kid take their first steps; be there in case they fall over but let them do it themselves, they'll figure it out and be stronger because of it.

What is hirudoid cream?

Glad everything else is going pretty routine. Yay!

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28 May 2015 - 12:02 am
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Hi all,

So, Huck seems quite good in himself overall. The fluid swelling has spread though, it's as far as his chest now and is sort of leaving a bruise path as it travels. It has subsided a little in the area it first started, so it looks like a combination of a bit more fluid and what's there having moved somewhat. His surgeon looked at some photo's I took and doesn't seem concerned as yet. I have to check in again with him in the morning.

He has bled a little bit through his dressing, not bad, just a small amount. We have to take his dressing off tomorrow so we'll be able to see what it looks like underneath then.

Hiraroid cream is something to help heal bruising. No idea whether it actually works. We had some in the house anyway as Emma bruises if you so much as waft a feather past her! The post op notes we were given said to apply hiraroid cream twice a day, so may as well as we already have some in. http://hirudoid.....ealing.php

Now for the bad news, the test results have just come back on the removed leg. It's definitely Osteosarcoma. He's booked in for his first chemo in 2 weeks time, pending being strong enough from the op. He'll also go onto a clinical trial for a new drug that may retard the spread, I can't remember what it was. I'll post up when I get the proper details.

He's whining a panting slightly this afternoon. I guess the fentinal patch is starting to lose strength. Another hour and I can give him todays Feldene tablet.

Cheers.

Tony.

 

edited to add: he's just got up and had a drink and moved to another room for a change of scenery. Panting and whining stopped and he's fast asleep.

also, for those interested, this is the clinical trial we hope to get onto. http://www.cani.....lyer-2.pdf

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28 May 2015 - 10:39 am
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First of all, Huckleberry does not have a time frame stamped on his butt! As Jerry likes to say, "prognosis..schmognosis"!

Huckleberry could care less about any ole test results and isn't worried about a thing! Follow Huckleberry's exa.ple of how to live in the .oment...in the now...that's what of the great life lessons our dogs teach us in this journey! Don't waste one lrecious second worrying andd let NOTHINIG rob you of your time together!!

Thanks for the link to the clinical trial. It certainly sounds hopeful!

What other .meds is Huckleberry on besides the Feldene (Piroxicam)? It sou ds like he is experiencing some pain and discomfort with the periodic panting, etc. The pain meds prescribed here are usually Tramadol and Gabapentin. They are given for approximately two weeks.

You're doing a good job of keeping a watchful eye on the fluid build up and drainage. I would not hesitate to take him in a d have him checked if you have ANY concerns about infection, fever, etc.

My Happy Hannah had a bit of a slower recovery than some and I delayed her chemo until the third week when she felt better. She sailed through all four rounds of Carboplatin with no issues! Everyone thinks I'm crazy when I say this, but I think she actualky started feeling much better after her first treatment!!

Thanks for the update! A great big YAAAAAAAAAY FOR HUCKLEBERRY AND YOU!!!!!clap

Lots of love to all!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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28 May 2015 - 11:29 am
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He's making great progress! Consider starting a new topic in "Size and Age Matters" so folks of Giant Breeds can find his story and follow along.

Thanks for the scoop on hirudoid, had no idea about that stuff, we'll have to write about it.

Sorry for the osteo diagnosis but like Sally said, there are no time stamps. Many dogs live far beyond statistics and we hope with all we've got that Huckleberry will be one of them.

By the way, did you know we have another Tripawds member in Queensland? If that's where you are, Check out Ziggy's blog, you guys could be neighbors!

Hope today was a good day for you and Huck, keep us posted.

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30 May 2015 - 11:59 pm
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A quick update.

To be honest, I'm struggling a little today. I think a lot due to being completely exhausted. I've "slept" the last 5 nights straight on the couch as the living room seems to be the safest option for his beds at the moment. I'm getting very little sleep as every time he moves I wake up.

He came out of the operation on Monday about 5:30pm - it's now Sunday almost 4pm and he hasn't done a number 2 yet. He did almost try for one yesterday, but he was too tired from circling the lawn and his back leg gave out as he was squatting to try for one. He hasn't tried again since.

He was doing great those first few days/nights, but the last few days have been a struggle.

Thursday morning he really started yelping in pain whenever he tried to move. He spent the rest of the day motionless then yelped again in the afternoon. His fentynal patch would have worn of by around then and we only had the feldene to give him. I called the surgery, they said we should have another patch on. The surgery is a good drive away, so our local vet made a house call on friday morning and put a fresh patch on. By friday afternoon he was a lot better, able to move and hop about a bit again without yelping.

Friday night was terrible, he panted and whined all night. He was super anxious, every passing car or breath of wind had him startled and looking around. It was like he was having a bad trip. I called the surgery emergency line. They said it could be a reaction to the fentynal, which would make sense, but he'd never done it before and has had the patch a few times in the past. They said to give him some Diazapam and if he's no better by the morning, to remove the patch.

The diazapam calmed him a little and he was a lot better through Saturday, so we left the patch on. We also went to our local vet for some tramadol for when this patch wears out again.

Saturday night, (last night), he slept fin until about 11pm then started a very low cry. He doesn't seem to be in pain or discomfort, just a constant soft cry. So, I gave him Diazapam again, (valium), and he calmed for an hour or two then started up again. I was so tired by 4am that I gave him 3 tramadol, (surgeon had already said it was fine to give him that too if need be). He slept sound for a few hours then.

He's brighter again today, not whiny and not yelping. He's really struggling to get around and get comfy, We're only letting him up and out when he has to pee, (twice a day roughly). It's such hard work for him. By the time he's peed he is practically dragging himself back to bed as there's not the strength in that remaining leg yet.

His wound looks great and his large seroma is starting to disspate a little. He's eating fine.

He wont go on the huge mattress we bought for him any more as that's the one he was on when he was yelping, he's obviously associated it with pain so he's trying to manage on his little old bed at the moment.

Trying to stay strong for him, but I'm absolutely exhausted and really questioning if it was the right decision. I know it was, and I know he will get strong, but it is heart breaking at the moment watching him trying to just hop from the house to the garden to pee. I'm really struggling to convince myself he will get strong enough to get around properly again unassisted, and even run and go for walks, but it seems like such a long was off at the moment.

We are going to see the surgeon for a follow up on Thursday. It's then a bank holiday weekend here in Melbourne, then he'll go to see the oncologist next Tuesday, if he's strong enough by then he'll have his first round of chemo. So, Thursday & Tuesday are our next milestones to work toward. I'm hoping he can get to and in and out of the car by Thursday, otherwise that's going to be another ordeal.

Thanks all.

Tony.

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Hi Tony,

I could have written almost the exact same post in the first weeks after Ellie's amp! The buckling leg, the acid trip anxiety, the worry and questioning. All of it is so familiar to what we went through. It did get better for us, but it took about 4 weeks before Ellie turned the corner. So don't give up hope! 

In the end we decided the Tramadol was doing more harm than good. A lot of folks here will say the same thing about Tramadol---it can make them anxious. Your description of how Huck was on Friday night is almost identical to our experience w/ Ellie on Tramadol. She was so hyper-alert, as though she could hear 1000x normal. She'd just stare at the walls with her eyes wide, trying to figure out where all the sounds (which we couldn't hear!) were coming from. She couldn't sleep, which meant we couldn't sleep. 

As for the strength (or lack of it), honestly I think for the big guys it just takes more time. Ellie was 100 lbs pre-op (a Pyr-mix) and we had the exact same worries as you because she just had no stamina. And, yes, circling for a poo would leave her so exhausted! And she had one episode of diarrhea which was just heartbreaking to watch. But now she comes up the stairs two at a time and takes off down the steps to chase the squirrels and runs around the house in excitement if she thinks she's going to get a walk. It did finally all start to happen for us and I bet it will for you too!

 

Denise, Bill and Ellie.

Active 10+ Pyr mix suddenly came up lame with ACL tear in left rear leg. Scheduled for a TPLO but final pre-op x-rays indicated a small suspicious area, possibly OSA, which could have caused the ACL tear. Surgeon opened the knee for TPLO but found soft bone. Biopsy came back positive for OSA. Became a Tripawd 9/18/14. Carbo6 with Cerenia and Fluids. Pain free and living in the moment. Crossed the Bridge on 7/12/15 after probable spread of cancer to her cervical spine. A whole lifetime of memories squeezed into 10 months. Here's her story: Eloise

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Tony, I'm sorry, I know this is hard and not all recoveries are as smooth as others. You did make the best decision for him, you're just not there yet but will be soon. Some thoughts:

1) He sounds constipated. Really, that could be the cause of his moaning. I know if I didn't go in nearly a week I'd be feeling pretty bad too. Get a stool softener from your vet asap.

2) Normalizing is SO important. You need to be strong for him, sleeping on the couch isn't going to cut it. You can sleep in your room and he can sleep wherever he usually does. The more normal you are, the more normal he will be. If you are concerned about him in the middle of the night (who wouldn't be?!), get a baby monitor. Here's a great video about normalizing:

3) Sure sounds like pain medication reactions. After a week you might want to consider talking to your vet about cutting them back. I know with our own Wyatt Ray , he can't do pain meds for more than a few days or he's a mess. You will find the right balance (maybe NSAIDs at this point are all he needs, work with your vet on that).

Remember, celebrate the things he IS doing. He's eating? WOW! That is pawesome! He's getting around better? YAY! Look at all of the pawsitives, they add up!

Hang in there my friend. We are here for you.

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OH, and again, starting a new topic in Size and Age Matters would be really helpful!

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Tony,

 

I totally feel your heart break I am 4 weeks in on a rear leg amputation and My sweetie India has already started her Carbplatin chemo treatments...India is a large breed dog...was 101lb before surgery and now is around 96lb...She difinately still feels pain and discomfort especially when she over does things...She loves to walk around house and lizard hunt alll day.....:) Unfortunately all of that movement does cause pain so she is still on gabapentin 2 to 3 x a day..It is definately a slower process with the  bigger dogs and what I have realized is life is gonna be different for her with three legs...I am focusing on embracing the new norm for her and not the old that I wish for her.I dont feel like we have turned that corner yet...I am still getting sleepless nights and the whimpering has calmed but hasnt gone away.I think everyone is right we have to make life as normal as possible for them...and hopefully the positive change will happen.  The days I am exhausted I look at her and our other dog skittles and feel so much love when they look back....that keeps me going!!!!!

 

hope this helps

Laura

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