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Nasal cancer metastasized to humerus. New to Tripawds.
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Hi everyone,

Just found out about your site yesterday from our oncologist. Will try to be brief (doubtful) but could use your help/guidance/experience. Our Rosie girl is an incredibly sweet, loving 12-13 (rescue agency wasn't sure when I adopted her) lab-hound mix. She was diagnosed over the summer with an undifferentiated nasal carcinoma for which she received 18 radiation treatments (with about a 9-12 month prognosis which we of course thought she would surpass). She did really well and finished her treatments just before Labor Day. 

At the beginning of November she started limping on her left front paw. Initially it came and went so we thought it was a muscle pull. Anway, to summarize, after vet visits, non-response to non-steroidal meds, worsening limp and xrays, they discovered a mass at the top of her humerus. Fast forward to yesterday when she went back to see the oncologist who originally treated her nasal tumour. She had a CT which showed the mass, an inflamed looking lymph node at the back of her throat, no recurrence of the primary nasal tumour and no mets in the lungs. The CT covered the head, lungs, left leg, liver, spleen but not all of her legs so could she have mets elsewhere?? They aspirated the leg tumour and lymph node. When I spoke with the oncologist yesterday she felt that, based on appearance, the leg tumour was likely an osteosarcoma. She outlined the options and after many tears and considerations my husband and I had decided to proceed with amputation and chemotherapy with the hope that she would outlive (though we knew unlikely) the 10-12 month prognosis. But 10-12 more months of kisses and belly rubs and cuddle time was worth it, especially after looking through this website and hearing all of the recovery stories (though we know every dog is different and nothing is a guarantee).

Well, fast forward to today and the cytology results showed that the leg tumour is actually a metastatic site from the nasal cancer. As the oncologist said, this is really unusual and not something she would have predicted. The options are the same but she said the prognosis (even if we proceed with amputation and chemo) is now pretty unpredictable because Rosie's nasal tumour "is acting really unusual". We had scheduled her to have the amputation tomorrow (the surgeon had a cancellation and from everything we had heard and read it seemed the best decision so why wait) but now I'm having second thoughts.

I struggled with a lot of things. First, the thought of amputation. I really had to work through that and this site and conversations with the vet helped. Second, my husband and I wanted to know (as much as one ever can) that we were doing this for the "right" reasons, meaning that we weren't just prolonging Rosie's life because we couldn't bear to part with her. We want her to be comfortable and have a good quality of life. Before we got the news today, we were comfortable with our decision because, other than the stupid cancer, she is in great health and adapts really well to things (all the vet staff kept commenting on how she sailed through radiation). Third, we considered her age but, after doing some reading here, we thought that she had a very good chance of doing just fine despite being 12 or 13 (actually, turning 12 or 13 on Thursday!).

But now?? Are we just prolonging the inevitable; she already has the lymph node involved? Is it fair to make her undergo amputation with, best case scenario, a 2-3 week post-op recovery etc and then she develops mets somewhere else in 2 months? But what if it's not in 2 months, it's 10 months? I guess on some level I realize it's always a gamble and we will never know; we just have to decide. I realize there is no right or wrong answer but it's just tearing our hearts out. I'm not really sure what I'm asking with this post but would love to hear if anyone else has had this (nasal cancer with mets) situation. 

Thanks everyone, Sheila

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rosielucy said
Are we just prolonging the inevitable...

Sssshhhhhh... Rosie doesn't know she has cancer! smiley

Thank you for sharing Rosie's story, and best wishes with the difficult decisions you face. Yes, the inevitable is just that, but it's all about quality of life now, not quantity. The best advice we have is to Be More Dog .

Please keep us updated and feel free to call the toll-free Tripawds Helpline anytime, your future forum posts will not require moderation.

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Sheila, several years ago we had a Samoyed girl with nasal cavity carcinoma which eventually spread into her brain...so a very different situation from your Rosie's as her brain tumor was not operable.  You know your Rosie best and know what she can handle.  I am so sorry you are facing such a difficult decision, but whatever decision you make will be made with love...that is the best any of us can do when faced with a decision like this.

Trini and my Sketchie Boy

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1 December 2015 - 7:53 pm
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Sheila,

I would echo what the others have said ... it is a lot to process but definitely try and 'Be More Dog '. I had a really hard time with that one when I was going through this journey. I had 2 chances to amputate my Shelby's leg and finally did it the 3rd time. Shelby never knew she had cancer  - she knew love! And she was treated w/chemo for a difference cancer than Osteosarcoma. Rosie is beautiful and she clearly has more to her story.

Whatever you do decide, know we will all support you. It is so hard and second-guessing yourself will make you crazy. And personally, I had a hard time thinking about Shelby would be like on 3 legs but she did amazing!!! She was walking right away. Now she was a smaller dog and each dog is different BUT they adapt. In fact, they never even miss that leg!!!

So please call our helpline or download the books. We are here for you.

PS - Shelby is now an angel BUT she did amazing from a 1 - 2 month prognosis to 8 awesome, unforgettable months! You will hear stories here of dogs that have lived longer (and shorter) but each is so individual ....:-)

Alison with Spirit Shelby in her heart

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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Thank you everyone for your amazing, wise and kind words. Reading them through tears (many grateful ones for all the people on here) but feeling much better about our decision. We have decided to proceed with the amputation tomorrow and then the chemo-vet says probably about 10-14 days after the amputation. There are no guarantees-in life and in this situation-but we are going to hope for the best, work to make it happen, "Be More Dog " and live and love every minute, however long, we have with our girl. 

I know it will be important for us to not second guess our decision and, as our vet said, to not look back once the decision is made. I must have faith and trust in the fact that we are making the best decision we can, out of love, with the information we have now. And knowing, as so many have said, that dogs live in the moment and don't realize they have cancer is my new mantra.

Our journey is just beginning so I know that I'll be on here quite a bit, reading, learning, and sharing. Lots to learn. I truly appreciate the feedback and support...not sure I would make it through without it.

Wish us luck and send good wishes for Rosie's surgery tomorrow!

Sheila and Rosie

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1 December 2015 - 9:26 pm
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Shelia and Rosie...I just finished a long reply and got booted off. But as soon as I logged back on I saw you had made your decision. Yes, it's gut wrenching and agonizing to get to this point. Has your very caring vet said...no looking back, no second guessing. To do so would take away from being present with Rosie. And living in the moment is where Rosie resides.

There was actually something you said in your first post that I thought would be helpful to reflect upon when making your decision. You said "...but what if it's not in 2 months but It's in 10 months?"

Clearly you love Rosie dearly a d her well being is the guiding force in making your decision. Rosie doesn't give a rip about any ole' diagnosis and certainly could care less about days on a calendar. She does care about time for more tummy rubs and spoiling and loving! And I think she'll have plenty of that!

Recovery is no picnic so please stay connected and lean on us. In the meantime, we would love to see more pictures of sweet Rosie! Her avatar picture is soooo sweet!

We're all cheering for Rosie and sending lots lf love and ((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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2 December 2015 - 6:30 am
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Sheila,

Sending good wishes and prayers that Rosie's amp surgery goes well today and she will soon be home with you on the road to recovery. The first couple of weeks post surgery will be a roller coaster ride emotionally and physically for both you and Rosie... so hang onto the knowledge that there are happy times ahead for Rosie once you get past that initial period...and try to take extra good good care of yourself too!

Trini and Sketchie

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2 December 2015 - 9:21 am
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Sending you lots of healing and positive energy for Rosie's amputation today! I know how hard the waiting can be so sending lots of strength! Please let us know how it goes!!! 

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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2 December 2015 - 11:13 am
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Sheila and Rosie, I'm just now catching up on your story, and want you to know that we are sending all our love & pawsitivity for a successful surgery and speedy recovery. Stay strong and remember your mantra, it will get you through anything. We are here for you.

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Hi everyone,

I wanted to give a quick update on Rosie's day. She had her surgery and is doing well! Huge relief. I dropped her off early this morning (the specialty hospital is about 1-2 hours from our home depending on traffic) and she finally went in to surgery around 11. She finished up around 3 (not sure if that's normal?) and we talked to the surgeon who said that things went well; no complications.

She has a sort of IV or pump that gives the pain med directly (if I'm interpreting this correctly) in to the wound. They said she is doing well from a pain perspective now and the vet tech texted us a couple of hours ago to say she was resting comfortably, "on some good pain meds...and counting some serious sheep" =) The oncologist had told us yesterday that the surgeon would keep Rosie at least one night and maybe two. Today the surgeon said that she will probably want to keep Rosie girl for two nights. Mentioned that with front leg amps she really wants to make sure they have good pain control which is fine with us. The more comfortable our girl can be, the better! 

We're so lucky that we live-relatively-close to a really, really great hospital and we couldn't be more grateful for the amazing vets and staff  we have met! They keep us updated throughout the day, send photos, messages "from" Rosie etc. It helps so much to know she is in such knowledgable, kind, compassionate hands. One of the only good things-along with finding this website!-to come out of this unwanted experience. In that regard we feel really blessed and feel such sympathy for those who are struggling with a similar situation who don't have the same resources available to them. Thankfully this website is available for all of us. 

That's all for now but will update again tomorrow when we have more news. It's been a long day and we will need our energy for when our girl comes home so "stocking up" (I wish!) on sleep now. Thanks to all for support and encouragment-it is SOOOO appreciated!

Goodnight all-

Sheila and Rosie

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Murphy is a front tripawd, and I was surprised at how well he did when I picked him up the day after surgery.  I took my son with me to help, but Murphy hopped himself out to the car!  Lol. He's always been on the stubborn side.  The first 2 weeks were a bit rough, but it got better after that.  Murphy came home on tramadol, rimadyl & gabapentin for pain.  We also applied ice packs to his incision a couple times a day, for about 10 minutes at a time, and massaged around the area to help re-absorb any extra fluid that builds up.

you'll get through this!

Donna

Donna, Glenn & Murphy 

Murphy had his right front leg amputated due to histiocytic sarcoma at 7 years old. He survived 4 years, 2 months & 1 week, only to be taken by hemangiosarcoma at 11 1/2 years 6/12/17  
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2 December 2015 - 9:55 pm
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YAAAAAAAAAY FOR ROSIE!!! Surgery is over! And yes, she's definitely seeing pink elephants right about now!

It sounds like you really to have an exceptional vet staff. I love how they stay in touch with you!

And yes, a one or two night stay at the vet is good! You get some good rest and you know Rosie is in good hands! Wi /wi !

Stay connected a d keep us losted, okay? Recovery can be a bit scary and not exactly a picnic! We understand like no others can. The insight from first hand experience is invaluable.

Nkw get some rest, okay!

Sending lots of hugs!!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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So glad the surgery went well!  As Sally says...stay connected...the first few weeks can be challenging and it really helps to know that you are not alone in this recovery journey.  

Trini and Sketchie

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3 December 2015 - 8:13 am
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Welcome. You have a great attitude going into this journey!  Let us know if we can help in any way.  Once Rosie gets home stay strong and take one day at a time.  We've got your back!  Glad to hear the surgery went well!  Be prepared to have Rosie amaze you and show you how to become more "dog".  Hugs

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Great news and great attitude! Shelby was a rear amp but she stayed 2 nights also. Peace of mind for mom and lots of rest for the pup! Catch up on your sleep now is my advice!!! 

Rosie probably has a patch that slow releases pain meds which is good. We had that too. It helped (yet after a while, it did make my girl slightly psychotic) but we had other pain meds. It is really important to stay on top of the pain. 

You guys are doing great and keep us posted!!!! 

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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