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Not sure if I mentioned Otis having swollen gums a few weeks back.  At his last chemo TUFTS said to have him vet do a biopsy.  I put it off as he was on antibiotics and I thought the swelling would go down.  

Has anyone had a dog with osteo and then chemo and swollen gums?  It's just one spot. An almost rectangular shaped gum and his bottom canine tooth barely showing out of it.

Otis - 121 lbs pre amp - 114 lbs post amp and now 118 lb Great Dane - English Mastiff X.  Started limping on 12/24/16.  Diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 12/28/16 - amputation of front left leg on 1/6/17.  Stitches out and 1st round of Chemo on 1/19/17.   2nd round of Carboplatin on 2/10/17 - 3rd round on 3/2/2017.  4th round was scheduled for 3/22/17 - however due to low WBC postponed - 4th Chemo completed on 3/28/17.  Had breathing difficulties, stayed in Tufts ICU overnight.  Due for 2 more rounds of Chemo but we are opting to go with homeopathy with Dr. Loops instead.

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No insight. Just want to send pawsitive energy!!

Since it's ONE spot, it makes me wonder if something got caught between the rooth snd the gum. Because it woild be moremof an irritant rather than infectiin, it may not respo d to a tibiotics.

Of course, to state the obvious, it could certainly be old age tooth problems. Hiw do his teeth look?

TRY not to worry! Most likely a tooth issue or something caught in the gum

Hugs!!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Interestingly, my Otis had something like that before his diagnosis - just one spot.  The concern, of course, was cancer.  The vet removed it, and said it was noncancerous.  I dont actually remember any of the medical terms, but it was ok.

Otis - 106 pound lab/Dane mix, lost his right front leg to osteosarcoma on Febuary 9, 2016.  Four rounds of carboplatin completed in April, 2016.  Lung mets August 25, 2016.  Said goodbye too soon on September 4, 2016.   Lost his adopted sister, Tess, suddenly on October 9, 2016. likely due to hemangiosarcoma.  

Wherever they are, they are together.

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Thanks for all the support ad information.  We are on the way to the vet now.  Last year he was sedated to remove skin tags (worried about cancer) and the vet looked over his teeth and found zero problems.  He has nice teeth. I hope there is something in there irritating it!

Otis - 121 lbs pre amp - 114 lbs post amp and now 118 lb Great Dane - English Mastiff X.  Started limping on 12/24/16.  Diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 12/28/16 - amputation of front left leg on 1/6/17.  Stitches out and 1st round of Chemo on 1/19/17.   2nd round of Carboplatin on 2/10/17 - 3rd round on 3/2/2017.  4th round was scheduled for 3/22/17 - however due to low WBC postponed - 4th Chemo completed on 3/28/17.  Had breathing difficulties, stayed in Tufts ICU overnight.  Due for 2 more rounds of Chemo but we are opting to go with homeopathy with Dr. Loops instead.

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Sending pawsitive Energy for Otis !

Hoping for some teeth irritation or anything other then then C word!

Let us know how it goes.

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The vet had that same look in her eyes when she suspected osteosarcoma of his leg in early January.  Should get results next week.  She said it was very thick and very deep. She just cut part of it off.

So I guess my question is.  Has anyone hear dealt with cancer of the mouth? 

That poor dog.  He is doing so great and now this.

Otis - 121 lbs pre amp - 114 lbs post amp and now 118 lb Great Dane - English Mastiff X.  Started limping on 12/24/16.  Diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 12/28/16 - amputation of front left leg on 1/6/17.  Stitches out and 1st round of Chemo on 1/19/17.   2nd round of Carboplatin on 2/10/17 - 3rd round on 3/2/2017.  4th round was scheduled for 3/22/17 - however due to low WBC postponed - 4th Chemo completed on 3/28/17.  Had breathing difficulties, stayed in Tufts ICU overnight.  Due for 2 more rounds of Chemo but we are opting to go with homeopathy with Dr. Loops instead.

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Well this just sucks. And it may NOT be anything!!

Mouth tumors do happen. Treatment varies I think depending on location, etc . If I recall, there was a dog Roxy who had one. Don't remember the exact location in her mouth nor do I remember the treatment. So not much help at all. Will try a dnd find her blogs.

Remind yourself that NOTHING has changed for Otis just because the Vet is suspicious of something!! Continue to stay in the moment! Otis is blissfully oblivious and that's how we all need to be!!

Lots and lots of hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

PS...I think maybe Roxy had it on the roof of her mouth and it was interfering with her eating and some treatment helped.

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Oh Otis, I cannot believe your bad luck 😮

But hopefully it won't be anything serious, me and miss cow surely are keeping fingers and paws thighly crossed here 🤞🏽🤞🏽🐾🐾🐾

My cousin's Dane who passed away a few years back had mouth cancer but it was located on the roof of her mouth.

The vet told him it was the usual location for it.

I can't remember the treatments but I do remember she had some and it was effective for quite a long time.  

Let's have pawsitive thoughts for Otis, we are sending you a wave 🌊 of good energy and lots of tummy rubs 💕💕💕💕

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I was hoping the vet was going to say it was nothing to worry about.

Maggie developed oral melanoma about 3.5 years after her amp- not related to her original mast cell cancer.  It was tough and what I lost her to, but that was in part because she had other health issues and I really could not to treat it.

Before we talk too much about it lets wait until the biopsy comes back.

Karen

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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Otis, you big, handsome, happy fella! We are sending lots and lots of pawsitive PyrPaws your way! And hope that the results come back as nothing to worry about.

When EmmaRose had her SRT, literally, overnight, a bump/polyp/eye tag the size of a fat tick appeared. We had it removed but it is being held for biopsy because of her other health priorities. It may be a manifestation of her nerve sheath tumor or completely benign. All of which is to say, sometimes weird things do pop up ( especially as an elder) but those weird things may not mean much of much.

So, Otis, you hang in there and keep on celebrating Otis Time!!! You got this, Otis!!! Huge hugs, best wishes, and PyrPaws all around!

( And, Otis, I hear tell that steak and Puppacinos make most things much better:)

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Thanks to everyone.  I don't know what I would do if I never found this place and you wonderful ppl!

I guess my first thought when I saw her face and she said is was deep - was that he had osteosarcoma of the jaw.  I never thought it could be a different kind or type of Cancer. 

Crossing fingers the test comes back negative.  I will try not to worry until it's time to worry! 

Friday was Otis' 15 week Ampuversary and he is so healthy looking/acting and happy as ever.

Otis - 121 lbs pre amp - 114 lbs post amp and now 118 lb Great Dane - English Mastiff X.  Started limping on 12/24/16.  Diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 12/28/16 - amputation of front left leg on 1/6/17.  Stitches out and 1st round of Chemo on 1/19/17.   2nd round of Carboplatin on 2/10/17 - 3rd round on 3/2/2017.  4th round was scheduled for 3/22/17 - however due to low WBC postponed - 4th Chemo completed on 3/28/17.  Had breathing difficulties, stayed in Tufts ICU overnight.  Due for 2 more rounds of Chemo but we are opting to go with homeopathy with Dr. Loops instead.

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Oh, Otis! Sending positive thoughts your way, and hoping for something benign, sweet boy.

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WAIT!!! We have a HAPPY FIFTEEN WEEK AMPUVERSARY OTIS to celebrate!!! I know the spoiling has been off the charts....but Otis still needs ice cream and cake to celebrate FOUR MONTHS (close enough)AMPUVERSARY!!! 🙂 🙂

Sending you lots of love!!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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IT'S BENIGN!!!!!!!

IT'S BENIGN!!!!!!!

IT'S BENIGN!!!!!!!

IT'S BENIGN!!!!!!!

IT'S BENIGN!!!!!!!

IT'S BENIGN!!!!!!!

Peripheral Odontogenic Fibroma:
Many of the gingival enlargements previously described as fibromatous and ossifying epulides have been reclassified as peripheral odontogenic fibromas (POFs).  POFs are slowly growing, benign neoplasms that are common in dogs and may be seen in cats.   Histopathology is necessary to definitively diagnosis POFs.  These tumors contain proliferative fibroblastic connective tissue, as well as, proliferative ondontogenic epithelium associated with foci of a variety of hard tissues suggesting induction.   Complete surgical excision, with appropriate margins, is usually curative.

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They can be removed and usually do not grow back.  However the vet removed most of it to biopsy it and at this time we are deciding to not put him through another procedure. She said they grow so slowly it likely will not be an issue - considering his osteosarcoma and all.

Otis - 121 lbs pre amp - 114 lbs post amp and now 118 lb Great Dane - English Mastiff X.  Started limping on 12/24/16.  Diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 12/28/16 - amputation of front left leg on 1/6/17.  Stitches out and 1st round of Chemo on 1/19/17.   2nd round of Carboplatin on 2/10/17 - 3rd round on 3/2/2017.  4th round was scheduled for 3/22/17 - however due to low WBC postponed - 4th Chemo completed on 3/28/17.  Had breathing difficulties, stayed in Tufts ICU overnight.  Due for 2 more rounds of Chemo but we are opting to go with homeopathy with Dr. Loops instead.

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YAAAY YAAYclapclapclap🎉🎊🎉You made my night! 

I said prayers all weekend for you guys! YEAH LOVE BENIGN 

It is so easy to think the worst and this is a great example of why we shouldn't always go that way! 

We are so HAPPY for you and OTIS! 

You can breathe again! Im glad they got most of it with the biopsy! Slow and BENIGN thats the best news. Otis doesn't have to have surgery! Ask the holistic Vet about it now that you have a diagnosis he may have some solutions too!

HUGSheart

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