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Hi. I have a newly rescued tripawd. I have received some conflicting input from previous foster, rescue vet and things that I’ve read online so would like to reach out for some input on exercise.

My 19 mo. old tripawd LOVES to run. Foster (who is a well educated tripawd owner) ran her 3-4 miles at times. Rescue vet said a mile (with a rear sprain (she is a front keft amputee) was fine during injury. Im noticing she reslly doesnt do well and seems like she over did it on .6 mile, run/jog/walk with lots and lots of stops. I also know it is easier for them to move more quickly so they have momentum (less jarring hopping). So I’m confused on what the right thing to do for her is in terms of pace, distance, etc. I am not a runner and have never run but thought if the momentum was better ...then first time running shoes and a mile run per day is what I needed to do for her but it seems it’s too much (for me for sure, and her as well). 

 She is in the middle of some testing with my vet and is now getting some excellent and reliable care. And I have also consulted a certified pet PT (CCRP) but we havent started treatment til we deal with some other illness rule outs. Any input on exercise? She is a 39 lb. Shiba mix who needs to be 36 lbs... on diet! 😉

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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26 May 2018 - 11:32 am
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Hello and welcome! Your future posts won't need approval since you registered as a member, so post away. What's your pup's name? Thanks for adopting her!

We are SO glad you came here for some input. She's such a young dog and you've done research and ask great questions, she's lucky to have you as a parent.

First, keep in mind we are not vets. But based on the conversations we've had with rehab therapists and orthopedic vets, here's what we know. All dogs are different, and each has it's own unique state of health. But in general, running any Tripawd that far, especially one that is missing a front leg, is asking for injuries. Even if they don't show up when a dog is young, it will all add up to major problems by the time they are middle aged. They put so much stress on that front leg, that's it's only a matter of time until something bad happens.

Bravo to you for finding a rehab therapist! Please get your dog in sooner rather than later. You will learn so much and it will benefit her for a lifetime! YAY!

Anyways, getting back to the subject...our rear leg Tripawd Wyatt Ray , who has always been fit, has never run that far on a regular basis. Sure, he could do it. But would we allow it? No way. We do know one Tripawd, Bart the Vizsla, who was a front leg amputee that probably ran that amount of distance, but he was an exceptionally fit hunting dog who always did field trials, and a rare breed of Tripawd.

I'm guessing the amount of running she's been doing is what caused the injury? Or did something else happen? And are you sure the vet said it was OK to run her with an injury? Again, we're not vets, but any time we have spoken to our vet and PTs about our Wyatt overdoing it, the rule was strict R&R with a slow reintroduction to his previous walking distances.

Since she needs to lose weight, that extra weight is likely contributing to joint stress and injury. Good for you for helping her drop those extra pounds (remember one pound of fat on a dog is the equivalent of five pounds of fat on a human).

Yes, front leg Tripawds do have a faster gait than we are used to. But that doesn't mean they need to run long distance every day. It's REALLY challenging to balance a young, active Tripawd's need to go bonkers and burn off energy, with the physical limitations that we need to put on them in order to help them stay strong and avoid injuries. But it can be done, by challenging their mind through activities like canine nosework / scent games, rally-o competitions and mental stimulation. Here are some ideas for you:

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You are an awesome parent! Do let us know if you have more questions, we are happy to help. Please keep in touch and let us know how things work out oK? 

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Hi again.

Her name is Sunny (we were going to change it but she's been through too much, so we are leaving it in tact ;-))

Thank you so much for your quick and helpful reply. I am so glad that you shared with me what you did and it resonates with what I was coming to understand. Her soft tissue injury was probably made more likely by the amount of activity she had previously been doing/exposed to (seems clear, too much) but it was actually not from running specifically, but from playing with her new brother, Shep-Rhodesian Mix, Elliott.

We hadn't had her 29 hours when it happened. Play and wrestling is now much more restricted and we are heavily involved. That was also a tough tightrope because Elliott did not like her one bit at first and when they finally became friends and started to play, we really wanted them to form that bond so that this could be her forever home. Another challenge, like her youth.

Post injury the vet said to walk her one mile a day and let her play with Elliott but stay involved. I think I will be more comfortable when I get linked up and more educated by her PT doc, specialists and communities like this that are highly familiar with her tripawd status and all that it entails.

Yes, we were IMMEDIATELY all over that extra weight. She was 40.8 and absolutely needs to be closer to 35-36. She is on an excellent new diet and we weigh and count every calorie.

Thank you for empathizing with the challenge of trying to keep her active and stimulated and safe at the same time. It is not easy, as you said, because of her age and her personality. She is highly social, agile, active and curious. Thank you for your suggestions! I have read the e-book and will read everything else you recommended. Currently we are working on pet-stair training for access to our bed (another favorite thing that can cause injury), which was the PT's immediate advice.

We will be getting her to her PT doc in the next few weeks. What an adventure!

Thank you so much for all that you do....You all are the best!!

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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Hello and welcome, congratulations on your new addition!

My first Tripawd Maggie was a little Pug who lost a back leg to cancer.  She was 7.5 years old at the time of her amp and had become quite a stubborn Pug.  It was all I could do to get her out of bed and hopping to her food dish after surgery big-grin

Fast forward a few years and I adopt Elly, a 10 month old Pug mix who lost her rear leg after being hit by a car at 7 months old (the Elly in Jerry's post above about Nose Work Title).   She was healed from the surgery although not very strong but boy was she full of energy!  Quite a difference from a 7.5 year old Pug.  I started her out on short walks and used a stroller so she wouldn't over do.  I also stared doing core and balance work with her- we still do something nearly every day.  We do food puzzles and games, obedience and trick training, use fitpaws equipment and for the last year I have been obsessed with Nose Work.  I know you are trying to diet- for several months Elly got her breakfast in a food dispensing toy- so she was engaged and working while she ate. I'm also careful to account for all the food she gets during the day when we are playing or training.  Be careful with two dogs though- I have to be sure mine are separated or at least supervised when doing food games if both want to play.  Elly was very shy and skittish when I got her and she has severe separation anxiety.  Nose Work has really boosted her confidence and really tires her out!

Another thought on how important the core and balance stuff is (hopefully you get into the rehab vet soon and get a program)- as I got more obsessed with Nose Work I would play that with Elly and not do our core exercises as often.  After a few weeks of missing the exercises I noticed that Elly was sitting down more and didn't seem as stable on her feet.   So we are back to a more balanced exercise/play routine which is much better for her long term. 

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Hi Sunny and family 🐾🌺

So happy to see Sunny is in such good and competent hands, you are the best pawrents 💗

You’ve got great advice already and I agree exercise should be approached with care, walking for miles every day sounds crazy.

My baby girl Eurydice was also a front legger and I built up her stamina very, very slowly after surgery.

Eventually we got to the point where she could go for an hour to two hours walks but I made sure she had plenty of rests in between.

Also, when a tripawd starts sitting down during walks generally that means we are already overdoing it ...

I always took into consideration the total length of our walks never forgetting the amount of time needed to come back. 

You are such a fantastic advocate for your girl, I’m sure she will have a truly deliriously happy life with you 💕

Sending you a big hug and cuddles 😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Thank you all so much for the big warm welcome!! You all gave me some really great tips which I will diligently get active about, take note of and apply! Pugs and Danes thank you! And of course, Jerry’s pack. 

We are waiting patiently to hear about getting into the PT pronto. Cannot wait! 

The funny thing that happened since we last posted is we decided to meet up with her foster mom (who had her 7-8 mos) and foster sibling. What a huge treat. Sunny went crazy. It was a beautiful thing to show her not everyone disappears forever. Very touching.

So... her old mom started calling her Cashew and ShuShu and Shushi and she was in heaven, like “My name! My real name!!” Needless to say, she is now Cashew/ShuShu/Shushi because she is overjoyed to be called that. Apparantly the homes she went to and got dumped back from called her Sunny, so we are dumping that too. 

Thanks again for the support. We have slowed down big time. We are carefully watching the rear left soft tissue injury and working out all the newness.

We are being very very mindful of the relationship between the two when it comes to all things prized; food, games, toys, affection, etc. Thank you for the reinforcement and reminder. It helps! 

So glad to be here. 

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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Awww what a hoppy post! How wonderful she got to see her foster mom, now she feels like part of a real pack, her very own. That's such a gift! And Cashew is a sweet name 🙂

Keep us posted on her journey. You're doing great so far! 

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Just  want to add my welcome! You've  gotten excellent  advice, so I can only say DITTO!

So glad Cashew is happy in her new home and thriving .  You are a THE perfect forever home for her!  So thoughtful of you to have a visit with her foster mom.   Very touching. Love how she reacted to her name!

Look forward  to hearing more about  Cashew's adventures....with pictures!

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What an awesome story!  And I LOVE the name Cashew- such meaning for her and you!

Karen

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Welcome to your new life Cashew/ShuShu/Shushi those are such beautiful names 😍

Which one did you settle for in the end?

Or is she a Cashew on Mondays, ShuShu on Tuesdays, Shushi on Wednesdays and on and on😁???

So marvellous you took her to see her extended family, you taught her a wonderful lesson by making her realise not all humans are crap, she now knows she has a family (or two, if we count the foster one) who will stick by her forever. 

It is so uplifting to read posts like yours🎈

Keep them coming, and yes, pictures please !

Lots of kisses and cuddles flying your way 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Good morning Cashew/ShuShu/Shushi and Mum!

What a wonderful string of names! It is obvious to us all that she knows she is in her furever home now and told her foster Mum what a great life she is going to have! Well done Mum, we commend you for taking on the beautiful challenge of living with a Tripawd!

We awill be looking forward to more tails and definitely some pictures! Sally always suggests ice cream, be sure to keep a bucket in the fridge okay!?!

Rots Of Ruvin’ from Stewie and his Pride.

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Awww.. Cashew.. that is so unique and sweet. I can see ShuShu being the nickname for it way-cool  Sounds like you are off to a wonderful start, you have already gotten the best of advice from some pawsome people so I will just say hello and welcome!

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You guys are pretty wonderful and sweet. So glad we have this space. Will keep you in the loop, especially when we start PT. I’m going to see if I can figure out How to post some pics. Eeek I can’t. Time for more research. Maybe easier on a computer and not my phone. Thought I was young enough to have this technology down. Having to relearn forum code 🙂

Sweetest moment so far today... the best one legged hug and kiss. She’s just tall enough to reach my face with her one paw on my shoulder. Hope that’s safe bc it’s pretty wonderful heart.

PT doc to call Thursday with openings. clap

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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Awwww....the visual  of her giving  you a one paw hug and kiss.....soooo sweet!😙  Yes, that's  "safe".  Yoi'll get more relaxed and comfortable loving with a tripawd and worry less and less.

Yes, doing stuff on a movile device  or tavlet can be "challenging"   See if this links helps.  adding images

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Update. We are on a program. Lol. Shushu is on two ten minute walks off site ( meaning we drive somewhere else) ...quite a far cry from where I erroneously started her (Egads! Running! A mile! And when walking- way too long and way too far.  BIG OOPS!!).

So, I wanted to post for learning purposes. With one ten minute walk under our belt and our exercises I can already tell this is the right move for her now given her multiple body aches and issues posted elsewhere. Yay for educated help!!!

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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