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Diet and Supplements for Canine Health Concerns
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5 February 2009 - 12:04 am
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Just received this link to a website that is a compilation of information about many differet kinds of supplements and diet approaches, based on health conditions of dogs. It's layout makes it a bit hard to read, but if you're patient and sift through it, you'll see it's worth the effort.

Click here to visit the website.

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This an extensive list of supplements and also gives a good summary of liver enzymes, thyroid testing, and even mentions the new heart enzyme test.  I use slightly different dosing schedules for some of the drugs but this is a very good reference!

Pam and Tazzie

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5 February 2009 - 6:19 pm
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Thanks for checking that out Pam, we really appreciate a professional's point of view!

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It is mentioned in the above link and in this new link that antioxidants may help to prevent cancer before hand , however once you have cancer they can interfere with certain chemo's because of oxidation..

http://www.dogc.....og-cancer/

I have Buster on cyclophosphamide... I see now that I need a new game plan. Any advice? Cut out the vitamins?

Confused,

Kim & Buster

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Kim,

I asked Tazzie's oncologist about this before I started her carboplatin and she said not to worry, since most studies were based on humans and canine protocols and drugs are usually different.  There was no issue with carboplatin or with the low-dose Cytoxan.  The only time that she has dogs stop the antioxidants is during radiation therapy.

You might want to ask the docs at Red Bank but I think that Buster would be fine continuing his current meds.

Pam and Tazzie

P.S. Dr Singh did recommend that the Artemisinin be given in the PM and the Vitamin C and E given in the AM

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This is interesting...

Do not use flax seed oil in place of fish oil, as the form of omega-3 fatty acid found in plants must be converted to EPA in order to be utilized by dogs, and this conversion is inefficient at best, nonexistent at worst. Flax seed oil also contains some omega-6 fatty acids, which should be avoided.

I have heard that flax seed is great - who to believe?? 

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tazziedog said:

Kim,

I asked Tazzie's oncologist about this before I started her carboplatin and she said not to worry, since most studies were based on humans and canine protocols and drugs are usually different.


Pam, thanks for taking the time to look into this and clarify it, the Vitamin C issue been on our minds since we published yesterday's blog post about my cancer diet. We want to make sure people have all the current info before considering use of the foods and supplements that I ate. Your information is very good to know!

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Marley,

Fish oil (especially salmon oil) is definitely superior to flax seed oil because the omega 3/6 ratio is more balanced.  It is also true that the flax seed oil has to be furthur converted in the body whereas the salmon oil does not.  Flax seed oil is not harmful but you have to give more of it to try to get the same effect. Tazzie takes 3000 mg of fish oil every night (3 capsules).  Some vets might recommend more!

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Thanks Dr Pam for clarifying...  just wasnt' sure about the chemo and antioxidants. I always new that about the flax seed oil. The link above to the website is very informative, I believe if you click on the home page he has authored some articles on The Whole Dog Journal... . However, as new information comes in its is always good to double check and verify it doesn't interfere with any protocols.

Thanks... knowledge is power

Kim & Buster

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Great to know about the fish oil. thanks! I have been giving Marley the K9 Omega fish oil supplement... 

Also, I remember finding a video clip of how to mix up the cottage cheese with the fish oil and other supplements, but I didn't get to watch the whole thing at the time and now I can't find it - I think I got to it somewhere from Jerry's blog... it was a woman in her kitchen showing how to blend it all up... does anyone know where that is? 

course we can't get much into Marley these days. I'm hoping it's just because she's in pain which should be better after the surgery tomorrow. We're lucky if she'll eat roast beef! she's so skinny....

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8 February 2009 - 2:47 pm
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marleyflynn said:

... a video clip of how to mix up the cottage cheese with the fish oil and other supplements ... now I can't find it.


This one?

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that's it!!! thank you!!! hopefully I'll be able to get her to eat it at some point post surgery...

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Does anyone use this budwig recipe? (see above) Since we've heard that fish oil is better, would you just substitute the flax seed with fish oil? She says in the video how important it is to use a blender and mix the cottage cheese with the flax seed oil so that they bond and then the flax seed oil can be "carried into the cells". Would this be necessary to do with the fish oil I wonder? I've just been giving Marley fish oil pills each morning and night - from the K-9 Immunity site. Does anyone know if this is sufficient or is the cottage cheese necessary? 


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Cottage cheese is not necessary for absorption of fish oil, but you can use it if it helps her to take the capsules.  Tazzie hates them so I use a Pill Pocket to disguise the taste.

Pam and Tazzie

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