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At a loss with raw diet for schnauzers and low fat
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Hi team - I hope I'm not re-posting a previous question. I have a Tripawd mini schnauzer, Nelson, and a second mini schnauzer Schooner, who is a cancer survivor. I figure this covers both worlds on tripawds.com!

Schooner just went through her second surgery (in two years) for adenocarcinoma. I had been reading up on raw food etc. and both dogs have been on Northwest Naturals frozen raw fish and Sojos grain-free pre mix for the past year. As they are schnauzers and prone to pancreatitis with high fat diets, I have been keeping their fat intake as low as I can with the raw, and with the Sojos blend.

The past week, I have been watching the cancer study series by Dr. Becker and Rodney Habib and realized from the second video that the carb intake for the Sojos mix is one of the highest that they offer (5.1% fat and 49.6% carbs) . I really am at a loss on what to feed both dogs, keeping them not too high with fat but still keeping the carbs (sugar) low. I would like to place them on a keto diet (in order to keep sugars down) and continue with raw however with fat being a main staple to the success of the diet, I am just lost.

Any help would be appreciated please.

Thank you kindly - Kat  

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Hi Kat! Looks like you were in the Tripawds Chat room a while ago. Sorry we missed you. Welcome to you, Nelson and Schooner! Yes, you are all covered here 🙂

Sounds like you are doing such a great job managing Schooner and Nelson's diet, kudos! 

I believe this is the dog cancer study series you are referring to, right? 

When it comes to cancer diets there is just so much confusion, misinformation, "expert" opinions going either way and a jumble of options that can make your head spin. We've interviewed pet nutrition experts and written blog posts like this:

The How To’s of Home Cooked Raw Food for Cats and Dogs, with Judy Morgan DVM

Does a Low Carb Pet Cancer Diet Make a Difference?

Learn Pet Cancer Diet Basics from a Vet Nutrition Expert

Honestly the best I can suggest is to find a holistic-minded veterinarian who can guide you toward the kind of diet that's right for Nelson and Schooner. Remember, food is not a one-size-fits-all approach. As you know, certain breeds are predisposed to certain issues. A holistic vet will know what foods to avoid and which to include in a good, nutritious diet that may help fight cancer. As we mentioned in the first blog post listed, Dr. Judy Morgan will consult with you long-distance. I encourage you to give her a call.

I'm sure others will have some ideas so stay tuned and thanks again for joining us.

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A little bit more information for your consideration.  I used Dr. Harvey's Paradigm.  This would be the "green" supplement for your pets homemade diet.  You reconstitute with hot water and then add your protein and some oil.  It is compatible with a keto diet, so low carb. I sometimes used either chicken or beef broth or the left over water from steaming vegetables to reconstitute the Paradigm.  And as you add oil you could easily modify that component.  And you can purchase online directly.

Good luck with your research.

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Hi Jerry & Charlie - thank you for your information! Have purchased Dr. Morgan's book to look for the right recipe and Paradigm looks like an answer to our frustrated prayers! Thank you both.

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You are so welcome. Let us know how it works!

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There is a pet sanctuary in Austin Texas, ketopetsanctuary.com.  They have lots of downloadable diet info.  plus a good resource although their protocol involves a lot of blood testing which did not really fall into something I wanted to do to my pet.

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