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Added Supplemets: Diarrhea :-/ (Vet or Eating Qu.?)
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17 June 2018 - 12:22 pm
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Hi there. 

Obviously calling vet as well as her PT in the morning but....

Anyone have diarrhea as reaction to adding supplements? 

I stupidly did three things at once this week: added JFFD Joint Care 2x/ day  (Gluco/Chond)(but will be switching to Dasuquin after this month), added fish oil (Nordic Naturals .5 teaspoon 1x day) and started obedience  where I used cooked boneless pork as high level treat ( she is on JFFD Joint and Skin where pork is protein ingredient. She has had giardia a few times so since our other dog is IBD I am being careful about switching proteins). I also checked with nutrition consultants about adding the supplements to her current food. 

Could be stress of class or pork or Joint Care or fish oil or all of the above. Or she grabbed some junk on the ground I missed. She is quite adept at this having grown up on the streets of Armenia. 

Any thoughts?

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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First, no such thing as stupid when you are doing your best for your pup!

Well sure, supplements can definitely cause GI upset depending on how much and when they were given. Fish oil is especially the result of many upset bellies when too much is given at once. 

How bad are her runs? Has it resolved itself yet?

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heartThank you so much, again. Great info. And confirming the suspicion that is building from talking to JFFD #fishoil #toomuch ...though I’ll continue to confirm. Not terrible runs—like not needing to run out there every hour —-but the stool is just pudding. Yuck. No resolution yet. Will keep you posted. Gonna drop her fish oil dose tonight until I learn more. 

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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Oh glad things aren't too bad.  Here are some things that we always have on hand for runny poo incidents:

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unny Poo? Try Eating Clay

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Normal poop!! poopicon_png Still gonna drop the fish oil and reintroduce gradually and consult the vet. Thanks for the support! Yayyyyy!

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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Hey sweetie 🌸

Joining the pawty a little late, just wanted to add my 2cts.

Fish oil is excellent for our fluffies so I always gave them caned sardines and caned tuna preserved in olive oil, a couple of times a week, mixed with their dry food.

Whenever I increased the portion, diarrhoea happened and the higher the quantity given the runnier it was. 

It always resolved itself within a short time.

Sending you an avalanche of kisses and a tornado of cuddles to sweet ShuShu 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Thank you so much for your thoughts. Sardines! It’s actually sardine oil that I began giving her (Nordic Naturals recommended by PT, great quality). I have a few theories going as the diarrhea has continued for a few days now after one normal poop party I posted, and also, despite Imodium. I’ve learned that if she has any fish sensitivities (which she might bc Shibas are notorious for allergic reactions), BOTH the fish oil and the glucosamine I started would give her rhea. I’m a little freaked that she maybe unable to tolerate any supplements and am having to calm myself down a bit today. I want so badly for her to get what she needs. And I’ve just had a string of pups that are “supposed to get better with such and such” and it just goes south. Every time crying  It’s uncanny. She also randomly had a very bad rear leg day yesterday and was lame and limping on top of the rhea while on a strict program of rest and strengthening exercises that are gentle. Gait progress going backwards a bit. Life ain’t easy around here. Need luck and prayers. 

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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Oh girl, life is not fun for you at the moment ...

If she is allergic to fish oil maybe ask the vet if she can have plain salmon instead which is also very rich on omega 3 and omega 6.

That was also part of my dogs diet (combined with dry food) either boiled or grilled (no condiments, of course) 

For Eurydice and Kinky (my previous baby Dane) salmon in their diet was even more important because Danes are prone to heart diseases and salmon is super to prevent it. 

The other thing I did regularly was adding ricotta cheese to their dry food (for calcium).

But please check with your vet to be sure any if these would suit our beautiful ShuShu 🎀💕

As for the leg perhaps that could possibly be connected to the cramps provoked by rhea (?), just throwing an idea here...

You will get there sweetie, I've got no doubts about that!

Your persistence and love for your sweetie will eventually pay off 💓

Sending you hugs, kisses and cuddles 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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I thought the same thing that Teresa did regarding the bad leg thing. If her little tummy is spasming to poo, the rest of her muscles are probably getting overworked as well. Hopefully today will be better for you. Salmon is a fantastic idea, all of our furbabies love it. I know you are working on a special diet, but if you don't mind I would like to throw a couple more ideas into the mix. Plain regular yogurt is really good for their gut and can help the soft stool. Boiling long grain rice and adding it to some boiled chicken, or ground beef is also good. I would boil the ground beef if you use it to get out the extra fat and then mix it with the rice. You can even save the water that you boiled the rice in and add a small amount of lower salt bouillon to it and see if she will drink a bit of it. The starch should help her loose stool. 

Is she on any medications right now? Sometimes meds can have that effect, especially antibiotics. If you cut the supplements for a bit, then try one at a time after her stools are normal, you should be able to either find what it is or rule it out. Maybe just the combo hit her too hard. 

Sending hugs and positive healing energy, hopefully this is short lived and you can get back on track soon!

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Another idea (if you need one) is canned pumpkin. That's what the oncologist recommended when Rocky had diarrhea issues. I mixed a little in with his kibble. 

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Thank you to all of you again! Yay team tripawd!

We have had maybe 6 normal stools in a row (Hooray!) just from pulling the two supplements, dropping one Assisi loop therapy session and mommy just calming the heck down! Lol. And I agree that the tummy thing affected her gait because it resolved mostly (her gait is still antalgic (pain avoiding)(learning all kinds of new words) but that has to wait to get addressed until her tummy is stable for a bit longer). She is clearly feeling better and kicked butt at her second obedience class today. 

Has anyone ever tried vegan glucosamine? It is made from corn and therefore, since no shellfish....no allergic intolerance (potentially). I’m in the process of researching. Perhaps I should start a new discussion “Vegan Glucosamine for Allergic Tripawds”?

I think maybe corn is bad though right? At least for all the cancer pups on here heart#bravehearts. Must research!

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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So happy to hear she is doing better!

Why the vegan version? Does she have an allergy to shellfish?

I've never tried it so can't comment. But I do know there are lots of good joint supplements in the Tripawds Nutrition blog that don't contain shellfish. 

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Wonderful news, so pleased to hear ShuShu is doing well and pooping away 💩💩💩💩

You’re a fantastic Mom but then again you know that already, right?😉

Hugs and cuddles 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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