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I have a blue heeler named Teddy.  About two weeks ago he got his foot ran over by a truck.  Teddy has a hound dog buddy that was ridding in the back of the truck.  He started howling for Teddy and when Ted ran out to see the hound dog he got his foot tore off when it got stuck under the truck tire as the driver slammed on the breaks.  It was a rather traumatic experience... I ran out and found him on the lawn.  Eventually I was able to make arrangements for my new born and get Teddy to the vet.  Teddy is doing really good now.  He is already running around and playing with our other blue heeler Lucy.  The only times I really worry about him is when he hears a truck drive down our street.  Every time he will run out the doggie door and bark like crazy.  He is completely freaked out.  I don't know how to help him get over this new fear.  I have also been struggling.  I feel almost silly saying this but I get nervous and overwhelmed when I look at the shirt I was wearing that day.  I gave the shirt away and that obviously help but I also get the same feelings when I hear trucks drive by.  The other day Ted missed a step, hit his stub and started the yelping cry. I almost had complete anxiety attacks when I heard him make that same sound as when he lost his foot. Sorry this is long and I just thought this would be a good page for this since he lost his foot due to an accident.  Any advice for my puppy or me?   

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2 September 2015 - 10:22 pm
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What a terrible accident- I can understand why both of you are having issues.  I don't have any experience with PTSD- but I adopted my current quad pug boy Obie after his original owner neglected and abused him.  I don't think one traumatic event and a few years of bad experiences are the same but I can share what I have done to get Obie over his fears.

Well, he is not really over his fears, but he copes better now. One of the odd behaviors he had was wanting to chase cars, when ever we walked on a sidewalk he would try and chase them.  I taught him to focus on me when cars went by- and rewarded with a treat. This is the basis for me trying to get him over his other issues.  He is very head shy, is afraid and shy around new people, and is pretty much afraid of all creatures that move. Basically I try and make those situations comfortable and positive for him- and reward with treats when he does well.  I have also had to keep him out of situations that just scare him, like dog parks.

For Teddy I would try and re-direct him when he wants to bark at trucks.  Keep him calm, inside and reward with treats.

Also, two weeks is pretty early after a trauma.  And I know it is hard for you now but you need to be strong and calm for him- he may be feeding off your emotions.  PTSD is a difficult thing to deal with, don't be embarrassed to seek a professional to help you work through the trauma you are dealing with.

 

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2 September 2015 - 10:44 pm
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Hi there, welcome to the club nopawdy wants to join! I am so sorry that Teddy had to lose his leg and in such a traumatic fashion! It is not at all surprising that both of you would be experiencing some PTSD. This accident was terrifying for both of you and it takes some time to get over that.

It is great that Teddy is doing so well in his recovery! That is the GOOD news! As for his new found phobia of trucks, maybe you could try shutting the doggie door and working with him in the house when trucks go by. I am sure you are pretty busy with your newborn but maybe when you have time you could do some training with Teddy to get him over his fear of trucks. Get his favorite treats and when a truck goes by try and distract him before he reacts and give him a treat. The idea is that he will associate something good with the sound of the trucks. After he is not reacting to trucks while he is in the house, you could work with him outside on leash where you would have both the sound and visual of the truck going by. Just sit out there until a truck goes by and do the same thing as described above. I have a dog reactive dog and this is how I have worked with him to overcome his reactivity. He is not 100% "cured" but he is SO much better. The hardest part is getting out ahead of whatever the trigger of the dog's behavior is before they begin to react and getting them distracted doing something else as that trigger (a truck, a dog, etc.) goes by. Does Teddy know "watch me"? That is a great command to help break the dog's focus. You train them to look at you, instead of the trigger. You can use treats, or you can have them do alternating sits and downs or other activities that keep them busy long enough for the trigger to pass by without them reacting to it. And all this training will help YOU get over the trauma too!

I am sure some other folks will join in with more advice soon.

Hang in there, you and Teddy can get through this!

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Martha, Codie Rae, and the Oaktown Pack

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3 September 2015 - 9:30 am
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I don't have any real advice on how to deal with PTSD but I do know that it is indeed true for dogs (and humans, obviously). Shelby developed pretty serious PTSD when she broke her leg prior to her cancer diagnosis. We have a long and tired story that I won't bore you with but I did ask our vet when I noticed Shelby was having anxiety riding in the car (she missed the jump and slipped) as well as a lot and I do mean a lot of doggy bad dreams. Our vet confirmed that dogs, indeed, can suffer from that. I did start to give Shelby treats in the car, take her fun place and always placed her in and out of the car and made it her safe place again. She always loved the car so that was hard.

As for me, I have suffered PTSD from when I was in Boston for the marathon and the bombs went off at the finish line. It has taken many years to not freak out when I hear loud booms (like fireworks or a car backfire) but it has gotten better. I would encourage you to talk with someone if you think that might help. 

And with my new dog, I definitely never let her jump in or out of the car ... it's been over 2 years since Shelby broke her leg but I still have flashes of horror thinking about and definitely cannot go back to the place where it happened so perhaps I am not really healed but have de-sensitized myself enough.

Hang in there ... hugs!!!! 

Alison with Spirit Shelby in her heart (and little Jasper too)

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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3 September 2015 - 9:45 am
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GREAT advice from Codie Rae, Pug Maggie and Shelby! All the techniques are spot on!

As already mentioned, make sure YOUR energy is calm and confident! It is absolutely amazing how much dogs react to their human's emotions.

Teddy sounds like a delightful fella who is just getting on with living life to the fullest! We would love pictures when you can!

Hugs to all!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle too

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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3 September 2015 - 10:45 am
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I agree on trying to re-direct. Tanner has crazy anxiety attacks while in the car. He was found as a stray after being what they think was hit by a car, but I often wonder if he was thrown out a car window. We try to redirect him while in the car, with treats and belly rubs (his favorite things). He still is NOT great but he's getting a little better, one tiny step at a time. I'm no behavioral expert, but maybe the sound of the truck is making him feel like he wants to warn everyone of it's presence b/c to him its the big bag monster that hurt's things.

Also I read somewhere about a dog who barked at everything (it was his way of telling his mom that there was something threatening), and she would redirect him and acknowledge that she knew the threat was there (she exerted confidence too). The dog then just started looking at her when he felt a threat and she would say "I see it" and he'd relax. He knew she was in control and he didn't have to be so "protective". Might be worth a shot. 

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3 September 2015 - 10:47 am
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elizabeth said

Also I read somewhere about a dog who barked at everything (it was his way of telling his mom that there was something threatening), and she would redirect him and acknowledge that she knew the threat was there (she exerted confidence too). The dog then just started looking at her when he felt a threat and she would say "I see it" and he'd relax. He knew she was in control and he didn't have to be so "protective". Might be worth a shot. 

I would agree on this one ... definitely, if you can, let them know you are aware of the "threat". Jasper barks and when I yell at her for barking, it makes it worse (she thinks I am barking too)... but when I can go over to her and calmly let her know that I hear/see whatever "it" is... it usually settles the barking. Except for one last word (brat). 

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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3 September 2015 - 2:10 pm
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I'm so sorry for the experience that both you and Teddy went through.  Actually reading your story took me back to when I was a small child and our German Shepherd named Princess.  We lived in town and had a fenced in back yard that Princess got out of.  I remember mom being panicked and her and a neighbor were carrying Princess on a blanket.  She'd been hit by a UPS truck (by accident).  She wasn't severely injured where she required an amputation.  When we moved out to the country she had 6+ acres to run and play in with not many neighbors around.  Whenever a UPS truck pulled into the driveway to make a delivery Princess would go hysterical over the truck biting at the tires and growling.  She never bothered the drivers but she hated that truck. 

I had never thought about Princess dealing with PTSD before your story. 

I'll send you both healing thoughts.

Sahana and her Angel Leland and Lucian too

Leland

November 17, 2009 - June 30, 2014

May you finally be healthy and running free at the Rainbow Bridge. Until we meet again my sweet boy!

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3 September 2015 - 4:25 pm
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Wow that's really scary. Glad Teddy's physically doing great though. Those heelers are tough puppies, they bounce back sooo fast!

As others have said, two weeks isn't a long time at all. I know that when I've been in accidents (too many!), it takes me a lonnnng time before I can go past that same spot and not feel panicked.

Also, our own Wyatt Ray definitely had PTSD after he was rescued and went through an amputation to save his leg after being tied up and ignored in someone's yard for who knows how long. He reacted to being left alone with total paranoia for a while.

What I've always found paradoxical about dogs is that they live in the Now, but there are still a lot of things that really trigger their memories and cause panic. Think of the dog who hates baseball caps because he was abused by someone who always wore one. It's not unusual at all.

I think the key to managing this kind of behavior is to do the re-direct. When you see him start to panic, do a redirect. Always have the tastiest treats nearby, toys, whatever just puts him over the moon. In time he'll start to associate that feeling with goodness, not paranoia, and the good will triumph.

If that doesn't work, a veterinary behaviorist can definitely give you lots of direction too.

Good luck and keep us posted OK?

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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3 September 2015 - 9:22 pm
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Thank you guys so much. You're so awesome! I never expected to get so much support. I am so grateful for this group. Teddy gets his stitches out tomorrow. I'm sure he will be more comfortable once they are out. Here are some pictures of Teddy with his best buddy Penny Lane. He is really enjoying the extra time with her now that he stays at home a little more than he use too. Teddy has the sweetest spirit. I raised two ducks a while back. One of the ducklings didn't walk right and so it spent a lot of time hanging out in the house with us. Ted loved the ducks and was protective of them. He wouldn't let our other dog Lucy get near the ducklings. I am going to try to post some pictures... we will see if I can figure out how to do it. 

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3 September 2015 - 9:39 pm
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Ruh roh, the pics didn't show up. Where are the pics being hosted? I couldn't tell based on the URL you pasted in.

I'm in the chat room right now if you want a tutorial. Otherwise if we miss each other here's a post on how to add images to the Forums.

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4 September 2015 - 9:52 am
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Yeah Rene, I've thought about the paradox of dogs living in the NOW too, yet clearly they retain "exemptions" in their head.

Alison.....adding "brat".....too funny!!!

Can't wait to see pictures of Teddy...and the duck too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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4 September 2015 - 10:59 am
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Rene, I've also wondered about that... sometimes I think there must just be too much 'baggage' and that it's learned ... like maybe how dogs learn to sit - they learn to be 'fearful' of the same things that spook them. Now Jasper goes absolutely BAT SH!T over skateboards ... she's gotten better w/cyclists but is fearful of big vans ... Oh how I wish she would / could tell me the why. But she is petrified of skateboards and I really, really hope she was never hit w/on or pulled along side one ... But I do wonder ... if they live in the moment but then she must remember something since she knows that she loves her mama! 🙂 

And I can't see the photos either but can't wait to see little Teddy! 

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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I know the whole remembering thing is crazy isn't it? One explanation, and I'm not a doggie psychlogist, but I'm thinking a lot of it has to do with the visceral physical reaction that one gets used to when placed in a certain situation. Reactions are more physical than emotional oftentimes, and maybe that's what most of it is for dogs too?

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